Bugger it! They have added it ...
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WINKEY+V: sync clipboard across devices ... How to Use the New and Improved Windows 10 Clipboard | PCMag[^] And it only works, doesn't it? Oh well, I'm only three years behind the times ... :laugh:
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Interesting, about time! I've been using ClipMate Clipboard Extender - Professional Clipboard Manager Software for Windows[^] for years and it's been very handy!
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WINKEY+V: sync clipboard across devices ... How to Use the New and Improved Windows 10 Clipboard | PCMag[^] And it only works, doesn't it? Oh well, I'm only three years behind the times ... :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Caveat Functionality! Do you use a password manager? Does it copy your password to the clipboard so it can be pasted in? If so, you don't want to turn this on. I know that many people will chime in and tell me it is so wrong to copy a password into the clipboard and paste it into password field, but alas how would you do strong passwords? Type them? If you share this across devices, it seems like it would not be great. I'm glad they don't turn this on by default.
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Caveat Functionality! Do you use a password manager? Does it copy your password to the clipboard so it can be pasted in? If so, you don't want to turn this on. I know that many people will chime in and tell me it is so wrong to copy a password into the clipboard and paste it into password field, but alas how would you do strong passwords? Type them? If you share this across devices, it seems like it would not be great. I'm glad they don't turn this on by default.
That's a good point. Not only will it exist - in clear - in the clipboard history until it's specifically deleted, but it'll be synced via Seattle which decreases security. Hmmm. Gonna have to think about that ... and maybe automate disabling it and reenabling it so it doesn't get to either. Have to think about that one.
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That's a good point. Not only will it exist - in clear - in the clipboard history until it's specifically deleted, but it'll be synced via Seattle which decreases security. Hmmm. Gonna have to think about that ... and maybe automate disabling it and reenabling it so it doesn't get to either. Have to think about that one.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
and maybe automate disabling it and reenabling it so it doesn't get to either.
When I read the note about this functionality I was a bit horrified so I jumped over to my Win10 machine and tested a couple of things. 1) it is not turned on by default (at this time -- hopefully not in future either). 2) When you turn it off, it does seem to clear all of the history -- so that means that simply turning it off will take care of deleting any items you don't want others to see. 2a) However, if it really does "save it in the cloud" I don't know when or if it is really totally deleted. Good luck to all of us. :)
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WINKEY+V: sync clipboard across devices ... How to Use the New and Improved Windows 10 Clipboard | PCMag[^] And it only works, doesn't it? Oh well, I'm only three years behind the times ... :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
It sounds nice, and indeed I have used a program in the distant past that did this, but I'm sure there is a legitimate reason why I don't miss it. :confused: Notepad(s) work for me and additionally strip formatting. I won't be turning that feature on.
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Caveat Functionality! Do you use a password manager? Does it copy your password to the clipboard so it can be pasted in? If so, you don't want to turn this on. I know that many people will chime in and tell me it is so wrong to copy a password into the clipboard and paste it into password field, but alas how would you do strong passwords? Type them? If you share this across devices, it seems like it would not be great. I'm glad they don't turn this on by default.
raddevus wrote:
I know that many people will chime in and tell me it is so wrong to copy a password into the clipboard and paste it into password field, but alas how would you do strong passwords? Type them?
Especially if you have to use something like Thycotic and the Thycotic Session Manager(TSM). Your password gets generated every 16 hours or so. TSM on a Mac is especially horrid. When you start a session you can paste the password from a second mouse button click but not from CommandKey+C keystroke. If your session goes to sleep, you can't even do that and MUST type the thing. Another fun "feature" of TSM is that if you Ctrl+arrow to another screen or CommandKey+Tab to another application and then go back to TSM it will at random hold on to the key press of the Ctrl or CommandKey. This means that inside the Windows Server session anything you type has the Ctrl or CommandKey pressed for you which has lovely side effects. I have to have the on screen keyboard active all the time to see if the keys are being held. Having the on screen keyboard on gets me calls from the security group asking if I was using it. Then I get to explain it all again to them. Sorry for the rant.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
and maybe automate disabling it and reenabling it so it doesn't get to either.
When I read the note about this functionality I was a bit horrified so I jumped over to my Win10 machine and tested a couple of things. 1) it is not turned on by default (at this time -- hopefully not in future either). 2) When you turn it off, it does seem to clear all of the history -- so that means that simply turning it off will take care of deleting any items you don't want others to see. 2a) However, if it really does "save it in the cloud" I don't know when or if it is really totally deleted. Good luck to all of us. :)
raddevus wrote:
1) it is not turned on by default (at this time -- hopefully not in future either).
I would add a note to whereever you see it daily to check up after the next update... by the way... 20h1 21H1 is about to start :rolleyes: ;P
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WINKEY+V: sync clipboard across devices ... How to Use the New and Improved Windows 10 Clipboard | PCMag[^] And it only works, doesn't it? Oh well, I'm only three years behind the times ... :laugh:
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You could already do that using a RDP to a windows server... It is really [irony] funny [/irony] to paste the things that another person has copied.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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raddevus wrote:
1) it is not turned on by default (at this time -- hopefully not in future either).
I would add a note to whereever you see it daily to check up after the next update... by the way... 20h1 21H1 is about to start :rolleyes: ;P
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
I'm already running 21H1 on the desktop - it's still disabled by default there. (That was an upgrade from 20H2 which is still running on the Surface.)
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WINKEY+V: sync clipboard across devices ... How to Use the New and Improved Windows 10 Clipboard | PCMag[^] And it only works, doesn't it? Oh well, I'm only three years behind the times ... :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Heh, thanks for that!
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Caveat Functionality! Do you use a password manager? Does it copy your password to the clipboard so it can be pasted in? If so, you don't want to turn this on. I know that many people will chime in and tell me it is so wrong to copy a password into the clipboard and paste it into password field, but alas how would you do strong passwords? Type them? If you share this across devices, it seems like it would not be great. I'm glad they don't turn this on by default.
raddevus wrote:
Do you use a password manager? Does it copy your password to the clipboard so it can be pasted in? If so, you don't want to turn this on.
Or get a better password manager, which avoids adding the copied data to the clipboard history. :) The WinRT clipboard class[^] lets you specify whether the copied contents can be stored in the history and whether they can be "roamed" across devices. The only complicated part is calling that without restricting your application to only run on Windows 10.
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WINKEY+V: sync clipboard across devices ... How to Use the New and Improved Windows 10 Clipboard | PCMag[^] And it only works, doesn't it? Oh well, I'm only three years behind the times ... :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Great find...I didn't know this existed either! :omg: For now, I use Ditto[^]...You can control it entirely from the keyboard and sync with other devices using IP/Hostname and a password (i.e. no Seattle man in the middle), which is great when you have multiple Windows devices running as different user accounts (e.g. Home, Work, Admin).
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Caveat Functionality! Do you use a password manager? Does it copy your password to the clipboard so it can be pasted in? If so, you don't want to turn this on. I know that many people will chime in and tell me it is so wrong to copy a password into the clipboard and paste it into password field, but alas how would you do strong passwords? Type them? If you share this across devices, it seems like it would not be great. I'm glad they don't turn this on by default.
I'm not sure that's really the danger you think it is... I've been using a open-source password manager, Keypass, and the clipboard extension, Ditto, for quite awhile now, without running into this issue. The behavior I experience is that after copying the password from within Keypass, and pasting it somewhere else, when I check Ditto to try pasting it again, there is no record of the password in its database. I believe it behaves this way because Keypass, and probably other password managers, set the clipboard datatype of the password to a type that causes it to expire after a short time (or perhaps after a single paste). This requires the clipboard manager to honor it of course, and there could be ways around this "protection". I haven't cared enough about this security feature to track down the hows & whys of its operation... especially, since I only became aware of it when I specifically wanted a password to remain in the Ditto database and discovered that it didn't (by the way, the work around is to paste the password into a plain-text editor and re-copy it).
