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The answer is rectangle. I was hoping that the solution would be quite fiendish, however I wasn't expecting it to go unsolved. Solution First we need to identify the indicators: "Infinite" means *without end* or *endless* "Heard" means *sounds like*, and in this case is applied to "Not". So we simplify our clue to: Without end recursion knot of drawing parallels? (9)
REC = Recursion (without end/endless)
TANGLE = KnotRECTANGLE = Drawing parallels (a rectangle can be drawn using 2 sets of parallel lines).
You have got to be shitting me. ;P
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You have got to be shitting me. ;P
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Yes. There are too many ways to parse it, and there are two double indirections (infinite -> endless, which is then used as an indicator, and not heard -> knot -> tangle). But others who are much better at these than me might disagree.
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Yes. There are too many ways to parse it, and there are two double indirections (infinite -> endless, which is then used as an indicator, and not heard -> knot -> tangle). But others who are much better at these than me might disagree.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.I disagree with the indirection on the infinite one, I don't see it being any different to most indicators that are just synonyms of the action you should apply. Granted not a common indicator that you would see (if ever), but it's not a requirement to make them easy! I was in two minds about the "knot" part though. I am not a big fan of these "double indirections" as you call them (no idea what I would call them), but it made the clue sound better in this case, and I have certainly seen others use them too so I couldn't justify them being against the rules. A tough one for sure. I would be interested on what people think of the "drawing parallels?" part though, does that work as a definition for "rectangle"?
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I disagree with the indirection on the infinite one, I don't see it being any different to most indicators that are just synonyms of the action you should apply. Granted not a common indicator that you would see (if ever), but it's not a requirement to make them easy! I was in two minds about the "knot" part though. I am not a big fan of these "double indirections" as you call them (no idea what I would call them), but it made the clue sound better in this case, and I have certainly seen others use them too so I couldn't justify them being against the rules. A tough one for sure. I would be interested on what people think of the "drawing parallels?" part though, does that work as a definition for "rectangle"?
Drawing parallels suggests that the answer is a verb. Maybe two parallels would have been less cruel. To return to my whingeing, there's the superfluous of. But it disappears if the clue becomes "Infinite recursion not hearing two parallels".
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Drawing parallels suggests that the answer is a verb. Maybe two parallels would have been less cruel. To return to my whingeing, there's the superfluous of. But it disappears if the clue becomes "Infinite recursion not hearing two parallels".
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Yes. There are too many ways to parse it, and there are two double indirections (infinite -> endless, which is then used as an indicator, and not heard -> knot -> tangle). But others who are much better at these than me might disagree.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.I get that you could use infinite for endless; but "endless" generally means you lose only the last letter (or at most last syllable). In this instance you've made the larger part of the word the "end". Maybe "
Starting recursion" would have been more appropriate? I thought clues were "meant" to start or end with the definition; really not sure that "drawing parallels" (or even "two parallels") really defines a rectangle? ... but then I've set some questionable clues myself (it turns out - didn't realise it at the time!) and no shame in that... :) -
Yes. There are too many ways to parse it, and there are two double indirections (infinite -> endless, which is then used as an indicator, and not heard -> knot -> tangle). But others who are much better at these than me might disagree.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.One of the unwritten laws ( there are many ) of constructing a cryptic clue, is, one of the clues words must point to the answer. in your clue they don't. Neither infinite or recursion mean rectangle. A good cryptic clue should be challenging but solvable - we can all write difficult clues but they won't conform to the cryptic rules. If one of mine isn't solved I feel that it was either poorly written or a good clue ( hopefully the latter ) but I've also been guilty of the former.
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I get that you could use infinite for endless; but "endless" generally means you lose only the last letter (or at most last syllable). In this instance you've made the larger part of the word the "end". Maybe "
Starting recursion" would have been more appropriate? I thought clues were "meant" to start or end with the definition; really not sure that "drawing parallels" (or even "two parallels") really defines a rectangle? ... but then I've set some questionable clues myself (it turns out - didn't realise it at the time!) and no shame in that... :) -
Drawing parallels suggests that the answer is a verb. Maybe two parallels would have been less cruel. To return to my whingeing, there's the superfluous of. But it disappears if the clue becomes "Infinite recursion not hearing two parallels".
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