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    Nagy Vilmos
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    Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

    veni bibi saltavi

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      Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

      veni bibi saltavi

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      Nagy Vilmos wote:

      Watches too much foreign art films though.

      Needs intervention more than a laptop. :laugh:

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        Nagy Vilmos wote:

        Watches too much foreign art films though.

        Needs intervention more than a laptop. :laugh:

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        Sadly she's a linguist - like the ma - and watches a lot of French, Hungarian and Korean films. Can't stop that, but she claims it's all art...

        veni bibi saltavi

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          Sadly she's a linguist - like the ma - and watches a lot of French, Hungarian and Korean films. Can't stop that, but she claims it's all art...

          veni bibi saltavi

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          Korean and Hungarian?! Wow, I'm impressed.

          Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
          The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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            Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

            veni bibi saltavi

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            I kinda like my dell... Ask her what she thinks she needs. Personally, I'd want a larger screen, but I'm old and blind.

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              Korean and Hungarian?! Wow, I'm impressed.

              Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
              The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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              She also speaks a bit of German. Hungarian and English are her home languages - wifely and I - she learnt French & German at school - top grades obvs - and is self taught in Korean for the fun of it!

              veni bibi saltavi

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                I kinda like my dell... Ask her what she thinks she needs. Personally, I'd want a larger screen, but I'm old and blind.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                She is as tech savvy as a fish, so I'll have to best guess. I have a 15" and she thinks it's a bit too big.

                veni bibi saltavi

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                  Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

                  veni bibi saltavi

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                  What does the University suggest for incoming students? If the most prevalent laptops among the professors are fruit, you might want to have her join the dark side. :sigh:

                  If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                    Sadly she's a linguist - like the ma - and watches a lot of French, Hungarian and Korean films. Can't stop that, but she claims it's all art...

                    veni bibi saltavi

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                    Je trouve que c'est très bien.

                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                      Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

                      veni bibi saltavi

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                      Unless it's socketed which most thin and light laptops don't do anymore, I'd probably go with 16GB of ram. Maybe she'll never need it; but if she does buying it now will save a buying a new laptop in 2 or 3 years.

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

                        veni bibi saltavi

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                        I had a long search to find a laptop (price and functionality) but I found that ordering direct from HP was the way to go. It took a while because the build literally came from China but it was well worth the wait. I went with AMD chip, but they have Intel too if you're stuck on that. Here's the link to the laptop catalog: https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/pavilion-15-344522--1#!&tab=vao[^] .

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                        HP Pavilion Laptop 15-eh0097nr (8) 2B4R7UA#ABA Part number: 2B4R7UA#ABA ENERGY STAR Windows 10 Home 64 AMD Ryzen™ 7 processor AMD Radeon™ Graphics 16 GB memory; 512 GB SSD storage Tech spec See all offers $799.99$699.99

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                          Je trouve que c'est très bien.

                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          You what? She's the nutter wot speaks forn, not me! :laugh:

                          veni bibi saltavi

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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

                            veni bibi saltavi

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                            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                            NOT Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently.

                            Looks like the subliminal ads from the second jab are already kicking in. On a scale from 0 to 10, how is the urge to buy a Surface ? 8Gb is the minimum, since the OS sucks up to 2Gb and browsing (which is the main activity with student laptops) takes about 200Mb per open tab, all the rest is fine. I would not go for a too thin one, since they need to be a tad robust - student laptops are not sitting on a desk waiting like most work laptops do, they are more than often on the road. Maybe you have additional requirements for connections (USB B ? C ? ), or whatever can spare you a costly docking station at home. Fingerprint unlock is quite handy, since the damn thing locks often when you are sitting listening and typing in a course. (No, setting the locking time to more minutes is not an option, unless you want someone to spam the campus if you go for a minute and forget to lock your laptop). And one or two solid graphics cards to mine bitcoins to pay for the student loans :-D

                            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                              I had a long search to find a laptop (price and functionality) but I found that ordering direct from HP was the way to go. It took a while because the build literally came from China but it was well worth the wait. I went with AMD chip, but they have Intel too if you're stuck on that. Here's the link to the laptop catalog: https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/pavilion-15-344522--1#!&tab=vao[^] .

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                              HP Pavilion Laptop 15-eh0097nr (8) 2B4R7UA#ABA Part number: 2B4R7UA#ABA ENERGY STAR Windows 10 Home 64 AMD Ryzen™ 7 processor AMD Radeon™ Graphics 16 GB memory; 512 GB SSD storage Tech spec See all offers $799.99$699.99

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                              I second this choice. While I dislike much of the hp bloatware, I really like their recovery features from the BIOS, saved me and my data a few times already. And had no trouble with the HW so far, but for a few minor things after windows updates.

                              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                She is as tech savvy as a fish, so I'll have to best guess. I have a 15" and she thinks it's a bit too big.

                                veni bibi saltavi

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                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                I have a 15" and she thinks it's a bit too big.

                                Oooh Errrr!

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                                  Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

                                  veni bibi saltavi

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                                  I would actually recommend a Dell, but if the local Dell service contractor sucks then so does Dell. The specs sound good and are close to what I purchase for our company. Take a look at the Surface Pro (screen size is a little smaller) and Surface Book lines of equipment. Microsoft doesn't overload their equipment with crapware (unless you consider Office crapware :laugh: ). Also, spring for the accidental damage protection - it'll pay for itself.

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                                    I second this choice. While I dislike much of the hp bloatware, I really like their recovery features from the BIOS, saved me and my data a few times already. And had no trouble with the HW so far, but for a few minor things after windows updates.

                                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                    Rage wrote:

                                    While I dislike much of the hp bloatware,

                                    Agreed! Took a few sessions to keep noticing unnecessary stuff and uninstalling, but after you get it all rooted out, it's not a bad laptop (especially considering price).

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                                      She is as tech savvy as a fish, so I'll have to best guess. I have a 15" and she thinks it's a bit too big.

                                      veni bibi saltavi

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                                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                      I have a 15" and she thinks it's a bit too big.

                                      Heh. The Phone Generation(tm), obviously.

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                                        Unless it's socketed which most thin and light laptops don't do anymore, I'd probably go with 16GB of ram. Maybe she'll never need it; but if she does buying it now will save a buying a new laptop in 2 or 3 years.

                                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                                        +1 for the 16GB of RAM. 8GB is fine if you boot up Windows 10 and leave it running and not do anything all day, but given how memory-hungry browsers are nowadays, 16GB buys you a little more future-proofing.

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                                          Okay, Child 1 is due to go to university in October. She'll need a laptop for writing that student shizzle that they do. I'm thinking of a minimum spec of 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, i5 processor and 14" screen. And light. She's reading History & French so doesn't need a dev machine and doesn't game or anything. Watches too much foreign art films though. So does that spec sound okay? Recommendations? **NOT** Dell, they're a pile of elephant and no one will ever persuade me differently. [OT: Yea, fine thanks. Double dosed of 5G today and Bill says hi!]

                                          veni bibi saltavi

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                                          I think you should review the minimum RAM requirements (I've got 32 GB for mine, but I suppose 16 GB could be enough). 14" for young people is a very good screen size, in my opinion.

                                          "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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