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  • G Gary Wheeler

    If my situation with it gets any worse, I'm going to look at measures of my own. Fortunately I'm an administrator on my machine. One possibility is an access control list on some of the McAfee executables that prevents them from executing. Another is a separate Windows service that terminates the Adaptive Thread Protection processes whenever they run.

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    Peter R Fletcher
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    I removed McAfee from my main computer and switched back to Windows Defender, when McAfee kept flagging the executable of an application I was developing as 'suspicious', and wouldn't let me run it until I identified the executable as 'safe' every time I updated it.

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      I removed McAfee from my main computer and switched back to Windows Defender, when McAfee kept flagging the executable of an application I was developing as 'suspicious', and wouldn't let me run it until I identified the executable as 'safe' every time I updated it.

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      Gary Wheeler
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      I had a case where I was compiling an Inno Setup install. McAfee locked the Setup.exe being created, terminate the Inno Setup process, and deleted all files that process had open, other than the process executables itself. Unfortunately it deleted the source code for the installer I'd been working on. I lost over an hour's work, since I had to start from the last version of the installer source in our source control. I was peeved.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        Hi All, Trying and failing to work from home due in part to the wet string broad band connection and the laptop I have, locked for my security. Having to use a 'Mini Hub' due to the broadband being unstable I find I can't use the mini-hub as the Work lappy will not see things plugged into the usb ports! So I have go to go into the Office to winge at IT and attend an Online meeting. I wanted to work from home today! :sigh:

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        willichan
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        We implemented USB Write blocking. Our people are able to use whatever USB devices they want to use, they just can't write files to them. So, devices like network hubs, printers, scanners, etc. work without problems. If someone needs something written to a USB drive, they can either file a request to have us do it for them, or they can put in a request to be exempted from the policy. Exemptions go all the way up to SVP level for approval, but having us do it may only require their manager to approve depending on the sensitivity of what they want written out. Of course, anything done under exemption is logged and reviewed regularly. We have had issues in the past where someone abused his exemption, and was downloading CAD files and source code to a USB drive to sell them. We pegged him in less than a week. Only served to cement in the necessity of such security measures. We clamp down where we have to, but we do make an effort to not stop people from doing their jobs. ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.

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        • enhzflepE enhzflep

          Sure, I get that. The old saying, you can't prevent access, merely increase its cost has never been more true. What is also true however, is that if you flaunt your distrust for those you rely upon, you're simply scheduling the time they'll bite you when they can. People that need said measures in order not to steal the company data weren't the best hires in the first place. Oh. Right. Recruitment firms and HR. Nevermind. I'm thinking about some alternate universe where these entities aren't dumber than a firehose. :doh:

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          Peter Adam
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          The primary operating mode of my non-tech-savy acquittances is taking screenshots on their phones instead of sharing links when go shopping. Second to that is taking photos. Links may come and go, but screenshots remain!

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            We implemented USB Write blocking. Our people are able to use whatever USB devices they want to use, they just can't write files to them. So, devices like network hubs, printers, scanners, etc. work without problems. If someone needs something written to a USB drive, they can either file a request to have us do it for them, or they can put in a request to be exempted from the policy. Exemptions go all the way up to SVP level for approval, but having us do it may only require their manager to approve depending on the sensitivity of what they want written out. Of course, anything done under exemption is logged and reviewed regularly. We have had issues in the past where someone abused his exemption, and was downloading CAD files and source code to a USB drive to sell them. We pegged him in less than a week. Only served to cement in the necessity of such security measures. We clamp down where we have to, but we do make an effort to not stop people from doing their jobs. ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.

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            glennPattonWork3
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            I can understand the whole thing about security ( A company I once worked for one the 'seniors' left for another role elsewhere brought a USB portable hard drive plugged it in and down loaded somefiles, it took nearly an hour, my guess was he was downloading the projects directory, no one said anything!) but this system you lock everything down. Tried to log in this afternoon remotely, Wi-Fi will turn on but the second you try to scan for a network it turns it off, so I have to be on an approved Network for the Wi-Fi to work?

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            • P Peter Adam

              The primary operating mode of my non-tech-savy acquittances is taking screenshots on their phones instead of sharing links when go shopping. Second to that is taking photos. Links may come and go, but screenshots remain!

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              enhzflep
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              I feel your pain.. My significant other does more or less the same. Last week, I taught her for the umpteenth time how to check an sms while talking on the phone.. :sigh:

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              • S Slacker007

                all email is scanned, I know that. I have not tried to test their scanning abilities for zip files, etc. or encrypted emails. may raise suspicions with security. not sure. don't want to find out.

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                enhzflep
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                Just encrypt & send a text file whose only contents is "Red Herring" or some juicy but untrue gossip about yourself..

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                • D den2k88

                  Occasional dumb mistakes are one thing, many people though cultivate a path of willfull ignorance and criminal negligence.

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                  (MAGA)

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                  • G glennPattonWork3

                    I can understand the whole thing about security ( A company I once worked for one the 'seniors' left for another role elsewhere brought a USB portable hard drive plugged it in and down loaded somefiles, it took nearly an hour, my guess was he was downloading the projects directory, no one said anything!) but this system you lock everything down. Tried to log in this afternoon remotely, Wi-Fi will turn on but the second you try to scan for a network it turns it off, so I have to be on an approved Network for the Wi-Fi to work?

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                    glennPattonContracting2 wrote: Wi-Fi will turn on but the second you try to scan for a network it turns it off, so I have to be on an approved Network for the Wi-Fi to work? Your issue sounds most likely to be a hardware problem. If not, then it might possibly be some misconfigured power settings. You should take it to your IT department to have it checked out. ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.

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                    • W willichan

                      glennPattonContracting2 wrote: Wi-Fi will turn on but the second you try to scan for a network it turns it off, so I have to be on an approved Network for the Wi-Fi to work? Your issue sounds most likely to be a hardware problem. If not, then it might possibly be some misconfigured power settings. You should take it to your IT department to have it checked out. ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.

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                      glennPattonWork3
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                      That I have done "Hi, I think there is an issue with my Laptop connecting to Wi-Fi", "That should fix it!" (it doesn't) go back same issue, "You, have an old laptop, I'll see when you are due a new one, August 2022, so I can't swap it out" :omg: "I can't alter any of the power, or network setting or it will void our Network agreement" :confused::confused: "Hmm wait until it fails, save all your current stuff to One Drive, oh you can't access it can you" :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: Seriously it is going to have an accident.

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                      • G glennPattonWork3

                        That I have done "Hi, I think there is an issue with my Laptop connecting to Wi-Fi", "That should fix it!" (it doesn't) go back same issue, "You, have an old laptop, I'll see when you are due a new one, August 2022, so I can't swap it out" :omg: "I can't alter any of the power, or network setting or it will void our Network agreement" :confused::confused: "Hmm wait until it fails, save all your current stuff to One Drive, oh you can't access it can you" :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: Seriously it is going to have an accident.

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                        willichan
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                        You have my deepest sympathies. No IT team I work on would ever handle it like that. ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.

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                        • W willichan

                          You have my deepest sympathies. No IT team I work on would ever handle it like that. ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.

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                          glennPattonWork3
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                          Well, it makes me think, I'm quite low on the ladder (new starter) do they trat everyone the same way? How can they call themselves an 'IT Help Desk' more like 'IT Prevention', I feel I'm Dilbert Heck, Accounting Trolls are next!! :rolleyes:

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