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  • M Marc Clifton

    if (foo)
    {
    DoSomething();
    }

    or:

    MaybeDoSomething(foo);
    ...
    MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
    {
    if (foo)
    {
    // do the something.
    }
    }

    eh?

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    Private Dobbs
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    #27

    Option 1 unless there is a need for re-use. Going back to my days in machine code when every clock cycle counts then the overhead of the call to a method would leave me no choice but to use option 1.

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    • D David ONeil

      foo ? DoSomething() : ; :-D Simpler is better!

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      #28

      :rolleyes: This isn't the obfuscated C contest, and there is no prize for using the minimal number of keystrokes.

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        if (foo)
        {
        DoSomething();
        }

        or:

        MaybeDoSomething(foo);
        ...
        MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
        {
        if (foo)
        {
        // do the something.
        }
        }

        eh?

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        YahiaEQ
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        #29

        Depends on context but esp. in complex scenarios I like the second form because it allows for having clearer understand of the flow while being composable: I could have a bigger methods which calculates certains states and then calls several MayBe-methods... It allows the MayBe-method to be called based on the state which in turn can be easily serialized and deserialized (which is not so easy with an "if"-Statement).

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        • M Marc Clifton

          if (foo)
          {
          DoSomething();
          }

          or:

          MaybeDoSomething(foo);
          ...
          MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
          {
          if (foo)
          {
          // do the something.
          }
          }

          eh?

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          Delphi 7 Solutions
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          #30

          from a debugging point of view the second is a nightmare, you need to step into the maybe to know if it happend or not. I will take the first code any time

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          • M Marc Clifton

            What if (no pun intended), the "if" actually required more complex logic, including perhaps some nested stuff, like:

            if (foo != null)
            {
            var data = GetSomeData(foo.SomeValue);

            if (data has some specific value/s)
            {
            DoSomething();
            }
            }

            From an aesthetic point of view, I dislike putting all that into the main method, hence why I've got a couple "Maybe..." methods because the above scenario matches in pseudo-code what I'm actually having to deal with.

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            BryanFazekas
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            #31

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            What if (no pun intended), the "if" actually required more complex logic, including perhaps some nested stuff

            This is a different question. The original question is very simplistic. If we were discussing a real scenario, I'd ask what is the conditional logic, how many times will it be repeated and in what context(s), how large is the function in which it's called, etc. But for this simplistic scenario, I'd use #1 because it is not efficient -- either in coding and probably execution -- to call a function for no useful reason.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              if (foo)
              {
              DoSomething();
              }

              or:

              MaybeDoSomething(foo);
              ...
              MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
              {
              if (foo)
              {
              // do the something.
              }
              }

              eh?

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              Kirk 10389821
              wrote on last edited by
              #32

              this reminds me of a code review comment I received, for using:

              while (true)
              {
              // About 30 FAILURE comparisons for rating an insurance policy like this;
              failure_code = 123;
              if (failure_condition1) break;
              failure_code = 125;
              if (failure_condition2) break;
              ...

              failure_code = 0; // Success
              break;
              }

              if (failure_code>0)
              process_error(failure_code);
              else
              process_policy;

              To me, the fake structure of the while loop supported the early exit (once we know we failed) The code was so overly complicated (insurance rules), that I could only prove correctness by literally applying the "rules & regs" line by line! For what it's worth, the Business Analyst could understand, and the programmers complained that the while loop was throwing them off. [Comments were added]

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              • M Marc Clifton

                if (foo)
                {
                DoSomething();
                }

                or:

                MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                ...
                MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                {
                if (foo)
                {
                // do the something.
                }
                }

                eh?

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                Gary Wheeler
                wrote on last edited by
                #33

                I don't like the idea of having a DoSomething() and a MaybeDoSomething that only adds a simple if {...} around a call. My approach would have been:

                void DoSomething(bool something_allowed)
                {
                if (something_allowed)
                {
                // logic from original DoSomething()
                }
                }

                I've worked with code that was written such that there is only one or two block constructs per method. Naming ends up stupid (OpenFileIfFoundAndNotAlreadyOpen(), anyone?), and it makes it very difficult to follow logic. I would much rather have a method run a little longer yet be able to see the entire algorithm in one place.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  What if (no pun intended), the "if" actually required more complex logic, including perhaps some nested stuff, like:

                  if (foo != null)
                  {
                  var data = GetSomeData(foo.SomeValue);

                  if (data has some specific value/s)
                  {
                  DoSomething();
                  }
                  }

                  From an aesthetic point of view, I dislike putting all that into the main method, hence why I've got a couple "Maybe..." methods because the above scenario matches in pseudo-code what I'm actually having to deal with.

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                  Alister Morton
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                  #34

                  If the test is complex and gets used more than once, there's an argument for giving the test its own method. That way the test is isolated, and can be changed later, but it's not hidden away in the MaybeDoSomething method. So you might end up with if (TestIfWeNeedToDoSomething( ... )) { DoSomething(); } // lots of code follows. if (TestIfWeNeedToDoSomething( ... )) // again { DoSomething(); } and so on. A little inelegant, though.

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                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                    :rolleyes: This isn't the obfuscated C contest, and there is no prize for using the minimal number of keystrokes.

                    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                    David ONeil
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #35

                    Obfuscated is when you use partial template specialization for the task! :laugh:

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                    • D David ONeil

                      Obfuscated is when you use partial template specialization for the task! :laugh:

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                      honey the codewitch
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #36

                      it wasn't me, i swear! *hides*

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      • D David ONeil

                        Obfuscated is when you use partial template specialization for the task! :laugh:

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                        Daniel Pfeffer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #37

                        :omg: :wtf: X|

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          I'm with all the others: first version is what I'd use. It's easier to read, more efficient, and potentially means you don't have to carry the "decision variable(s)" through to the called method.

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                          thewazz
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #38

                          Aka single resp.

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            if (foo)
                            {
                            DoSomething();
                            }

                            or:

                            MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                            ...
                            MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                            {
                            if (foo)
                            {
                            // do the something.
                            }
                            }

                            eh?

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                            Reelix
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                            #39

                            The first one. Why are you even calling the second one if you're not going to use it?

                            -= Reelix =-

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              if (foo)
                              {
                              DoSomething();
                              }

                              or:

                              MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                              ...
                              MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                              {
                              if (foo)
                              {
                              // do the something.
                              }
                              }

                              eh?

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                              sasadler
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                              #40

                              First one.

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                if (foo)
                                {
                                DoSomething();
                                }

                                or:

                                MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                                ...
                                MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                                {
                                if (foo)
                                {
                                // do the something.
                                }
                                }

                                eh?

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                                charlieg
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #41

                                Depends on the complexity of the method containing #1. I prefer showing logic as soon as possible *in context*. I'm also a big believer in encapsulation for the soul purpose of containing the application in edible portions.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  if (foo)
                                  {
                                  DoSomething();
                                  }

                                  or:

                                  MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                                  ...
                                  MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                                  {
                                  if (foo)
                                  {
                                  // do the something.
                                  }
                                  }

                                  eh?

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                                  r_hyde
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #42

                                  First option, full stop. -but- Here's a fun little twist, if your language of choice supports this sort of thing (I'll use C# to illustrate):

                                  void ExecuteIf(Func predicate, Action thingToExecute)
                                  {
                                  if (predicate())
                                  thingToExecute();
                                  }

                                  ExecuteIf(() => foo, DoSomething);

                                  ...but I'm not convinced that this is any easier to read, it imposes a little extra overhead, and I would still stick with your first option. Just wanted to throw it into the mix :cool:

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    if (foo)
                                    {
                                    DoSomething();
                                    }

                                    or:

                                    MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                                    ...
                                    MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                                    {
                                    if (foo)
                                    {
                                    // do the something.
                                    }
                                    }

                                    eh?

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                                    Lost User
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #43

                                    The 2nd option is like eating something you shouldn't.

                                    It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      if (foo)
                                      {
                                      DoSomething();
                                      }

                                      or:

                                      MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                                      ...
                                      MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                                      {
                                      if (foo)
                                      {
                                      // do the something.
                                      }
                                      }

                                      eh?

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                                      Martin ISDN
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #44

                                      if (foo)
                                      {
                                      DoSomething();
                                      }

                                      avoid the function call if not necessary. what you see is what it does.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        if (foo)
                                        {
                                        DoSomething();
                                        }

                                        or:

                                        MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                                        ...
                                        MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                                        {
                                        if (foo)
                                        {
                                        // do the something.
                                        }
                                        }

                                        eh?

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                                        AnotherKen
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #45

                                        The first is more simple and will run faster when compiled. However, the second might be preferable if you plan to run that bit of code a lot of times since then you just re-type one call and it makes the code easier to read.

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          if (foo)
                                          {
                                          DoSomething();
                                          }

                                          or:

                                          MaybeDoSomething(foo);
                                          ...
                                          MaybeDoSomething(bool foo)
                                          {
                                          if (foo)
                                          {
                                          // do the something.
                                          }
                                          }

                                          eh?

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                                          rjmoses
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                                          #46

                                          It depends! 1) If the section of code is executed frequently, then #2 adds the cpu overhead of the call/return therefore slowing the program down. 2) If the DoSomething code is relatively simple and is only used in this one location, then it should be coded in place in order to make readability, understandability and comprehension better. 3) If the Dosomething code is frequently used code, then #1 makes it clearer when something is done. The answer to this question is a choice of balancing performance vs readability vs understandability vs comprehension. To me, code should always be written such that I or anyone else can comprehend the intent and methodology of the original programmer in a few seconds.

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