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  • G grralph1

    Any one been subjected to breath analysis before they can code?

    "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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    SeeSharp2
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    Only when you pair program. One must have good oral hygiene when working so close.

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    • G grralph1

      Any one been subjected to breath analysis before they can code?

      "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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      Mike Hankey
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      More should, after looking at some code it appears what they been smoking ain't entirely legal.

      The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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      • G grralph1

        Any one been subjected to breath analysis before they can code?

        "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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        den2k88
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        Yes. Actually it is a sample check made regularly in my company, because we often work on safety critical systems (rail, automotive, aerospace, military, medical) so we have a 0 alcohol policy in place during working hours.

        GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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        • G grralph1

          Any one been subjected to breath analysis before they can code?

          "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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          Slacker007
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          No, but it is probably a good idea if you are working on software, etc. that peoples lives depend on.

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          • G grralph1

            Any one been subjected to breath analysis before they can code?

            "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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            kmoorevs
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            Nope, and a good think tooo...I writ my bost code when annebretedd! :laugh:

            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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              Yes. Actually it is a sample check made regularly in my company, because we often work on safety critical systems (rail, automotive, aerospace, military, medical) so we have a 0 alcohol policy in place during working hours.

              GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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              grralph1
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              Sounds reasonable to me. I have usually seen these policies implemented for safety reasons. Same here I guess except, they are not so much concerned with your safety, but the safety of the product.

              "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                Nope, and a good think tooo...I writ my bost code when annebretedd! :laugh:

                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                grralph1
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                Sucked me in for a mo. After the second drink I shut down the IDE. Too risky to continue.........

                "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                • S SeeSharp2

                  Only when you pair program. One must have good oral hygiene when working so close.

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                  grralph1
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                  Tic Tacs or mints should assist with your concern.

                  "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                  • G grralph1

                    Sounds reasonable to me. I have usually seen these policies implemented for safety reasons. Same here I guess except, they are not so much concerned with your safety, but the safety of the product.

                    "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                    den2k88
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                    grralph1 wrote:

                    they are not so much concerned with your safety, but the safety of the product

                    Just like us ;P don't fool around with quality procedures because if a plane falls for this it's the end.

                    GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                    • K kmoorevs

                      Nope, and a good think tooo...I writ my bost code when annebretedd! :laugh:

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                      den2k88
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                      You used to work with VB6, drinking is required by the EULA.

                      GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                        More should, after looking at some code it appears what they been smoking ain't entirely legal.

                        The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                        grralph1
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                        I was specifically asking about alcohol breath analysis as opposed to drug testing. However your comment is a valid point. I have never smoked spaghetti and I didn't know that it was illegal to do so. Your answer has given me new ideas though, for naming some of my classes, sub routines, functions and modules that I am not really happy about, but time restraints force me to include. Some of these names are; Tagliatelle, Ramen and Vermicelli. :laugh: It is the Vermicelli that is the most embarrassing. For me drinking a little Alcohol impedes my ability to play sport, code, remember what I did, etc. I am certainly not against it, but I am with regards to work. I recently listened to a Professor who was working on testing people affected by different substances and how this affected their ability to drive. It was quite interesting. He was saying that people who had smoked the spaghetti, especially those who were used to it, actually drove far better than usual and better than others who were normal. They concentrated on the task of driving better than when they hadn't smoked it as well. The interesting thing that he found was that whilst they were able to fully focus on the task, it was when things went wrong that they completely failed. As soon as there was multiple extra sensory input coming in they failed to cope as well as when they were un-spaghettied. So I feel that the code that you reference in your post, is probably going to always be there regardless. Still like you I have often said, "What have you been smoking?" I can't recall ever saying "What have you been drinking".

                        "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                          grralph1 wrote:

                          they are not so much concerned with your safety, but the safety of the product

                          Just like us ;P don't fool around with quality procedures because if a plane falls for this it's the end.

                          GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                          grralph1
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                          Agree completely.

                          "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                          • D den2k88

                            You used to work with VB6, drinking is required by the EULA.

                            GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                            grralph1
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                            On Drunk Resume Next. :laugh:

                            "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                              On Drunk Resume Next. :laugh:

                              "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                              den2k88
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                              They say if you type

                              Option Drunk

                              in the head of the code it automatically deactivates Option Explicit, inserts On Error Resume Next and activates Option Base 1 and Option Compare Text for the best coding experience.

                              GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                Yes. Actually it is a sample check made regularly in my company, because we often work on safety critical systems (rail, automotive, aerospace, military, medical) so we have a 0 alcohol policy in place during working hours.

                                GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                jschell
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                                den2k88 wrote:

                                because we often work on safety critical systems

                                And presumably all of the following is also in place and strictly followed and enforced - Written designs - Design reviews - Code reviews - Code walkthroughs - Unit tests - System tests - Integration tests - Security tests - Reviews of Security tests - Test plans - Test plan reviews - Full regression tests - Complete simulators for all external interfaces. - Staging environments capable of fully simulating the target environment. - All of the above done regardless of contractual obligations for original contract.

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                                • G grralph1

                                  Any one been subjected to breath analysis before they can code?

                                  "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                                  Gary R Wheeler
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                                  No, but my employer required a drug test before my employment was confirmed. Good news was that I didn't have a migraine in the week or so before the test. My migraine medication includes codeine, which would have caused a positive result for opiates.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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