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  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

    I agree with your comments. The BSD style does improve readability regarding scope.

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    Lost User
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    Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

    I agree with your comments.

    I wrote that comment nearly a decade ago. It's interesting that my opinion has not changed. By the way, what we were discussing earlier regarding namespace using-declarations is also just an opinion. These things are not really important. It's about personal preference. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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    • D Dave Kreskowiak

      Yuk! No, no, no. This will not do. At the very least, they need to implement an option to pick the formatting you want. I find that format a problem because newbs seem to mis-match braces all the time while using it.

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      Richard Andrew x64
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      And that's exactly why I dislike that style, because it makes it difficult to, as Randor said, see where the scopes begin and end.

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        No, not orthodonture. Has anyone else noticed that Microsoft has reformatted all of their online documentation to use K&R style braces instead of Allman style? I personally prefer the previous (Allman) style.

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        Allman makes the braces easy to match up. But more importantly, it makes conditions easy to read because the left brace is alone on the following line. Most styles squander horizontal space but are miserly when it comes to vertical space.

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          No, not orthodonture. Has anyone else noticed that Microsoft has reformatted all of their online documentation to use K&R style braces instead of Allman style? I personally prefer the previous (Allman) style.

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          Rick York
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          Curiously, the actual header file itself use the Allman style. The curious part being it was changed for the documentation.

          typedef struct addrinfoW
          {
          int ai_flags; // AI_PASSIVE, AI_CANONNAME, AI_NUMERICHOST
          int ai_family; // PF_xxx
          int ai_socktype; // SOCK_xxx
          int ai_protocol; // 0 or IPPROTO_xxx for IPv4 and IPv6
          size_t ai_addrlen; // Length of ai_addr
          PWSTR ai_canonname; // Canonical name for nodename
          _Field_size_bytes_(ai_addrlen) struct sockaddr * ai_addr; // Binary address
          struct addrinfoW * ai_next; // Next structure in linked list
          }
          ADDRINFOW, *PADDRINFOW;

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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            No, not orthodonture. Has anyone else noticed that Microsoft has reformatted all of their online documentation to use K&R style braces instead of Allman style? I personally prefer the previous (Allman) style.

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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            Slacker007
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            Allman style. I only do K&R for java-script.

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            • R Rick York

              Curiously, the actual header file itself use the Allman style. The curious part being it was changed for the documentation.

              typedef struct addrinfoW
              {
              int ai_flags; // AI_PASSIVE, AI_CANONNAME, AI_NUMERICHOST
              int ai_family; // PF_xxx
              int ai_socktype; // SOCK_xxx
              int ai_protocol; // 0 or IPPROTO_xxx for IPv4 and IPv6
              size_t ai_addrlen; // Length of ai_addr
              PWSTR ai_canonname; // Canonical name for nodename
              _Field_size_bytes_(ai_addrlen) struct sockaddr * ai_addr; // Binary address
              struct addrinfoW * ai_next; // Next structure in linked list
              }
              ADDRINFOW, *PADDRINFOW;

              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              Lost User
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              Well, Historically the employees that write the MSDN documentation are not FTE (Blue) but V-dash or A-dash[^] employees. The contribution they make is very much appreciated but they usually have restricted access to resources and source code. The documentation reflects that. Recently there has been an internal push for some dedicated FTE and resource allocations dedicated to documentation.

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              • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                No, not orthodonture. Has anyone else noticed that Microsoft has reformatted all of their online documentation to use K&R style braces instead of Allman style? I personally prefer the previous (Allman) style.

                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                Jacquers
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                I've been doing a lot of Typescript lately and become so used to K&R style that when I switch back to C# I looks weird.

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                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                  No, not orthodonture. Has anyone else noticed that Microsoft has reformatted all of their online documentation to use K&R style braces instead of Allman style? I personally prefer the previous (Allman) style.

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  Seems to be language dependent. C# is all Allman as far as I can see.

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                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                    No, not orthodonture. Has anyone else noticed that Microsoft has reformatted all of their online documentation to use K&R style braces instead of Allman style? I personally prefer the previous (Allman) style.

                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    dandy72
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                    Well, everything else has been fixed already, so that was the next item they had to deal with...

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                      Well, everything else has been fixed already, so that was the next item they had to deal with...

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                      Richard Andrew x64
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                      Yeah, after fixing all the icons, what is there left to do?

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                        Allman makes the braces easy to match up. But more importantly, it makes conditions easy to read because the left brace is alone on the following line. Most styles squander horizontal space but are miserly when it comes to vertical space.

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                        Rusty Bullet
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                        That is because readability becomes less important when publishing. Vertical space means $$$, so it trumps readability.

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                          That is because readability becomes less important when publishing. Vertical space means $$$, so it trumps readability.

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                          Greg Utas
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                          That's probably how K&R started, so people then thought it was the right way to do it.

                          Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                          The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                          <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
                          <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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                          • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                            That's probably how K&R started, so people then thought it was the right way to do it.

                            Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                            The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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                            Rusty Bullet
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                            Agreed.

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                            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                              No, not orthodonture. Has anyone else noticed that Microsoft has reformatted all of their online documentation to use K&R style braces instead of Allman style? I personally prefer the previous (Allman) style.

                              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                              Bruce Patin
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                              I always preferred K&R when I worked on small screens, because I could see more code at once. now that I have huge screens, I like Allman better, because the braces line up. The guy with the fashionable little laptop must have won the battle.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Well, I think it's important to remember that coding styles are personal preferences and opinions. Although I also prefer the BSD style I must admit.... being exposed to several styles increases my code comprehension levels. Here is a very old survey from the 7th of May 2012 with my comments on the subject. Do you have a coding style?[^] Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                                Member_14884492
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                                Totally correct. There is the Allman style and everything else. I am so retentive about this, I surround single line indented lines like this. if (foo) { single_line(); } Sometimes real world function get longer than will fit on one or even two screens. Being able to clearly see and understand the organization of a complicated bit of logic makes it more likely the code is doing what you actually wanted it to do. And don't get me started on Hungarian notation. I guess if you are coding on paper or a chalkboard it makes sense. Otherwise, what a ridiculous concept.

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