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  • S Slacker007

    You did say you were a big "bloke" so I am assuming you are more heavy than the average humanoid. Best Mattress For Heavy People of 2021 | Sleep Foundation[^] I am 6'5" and weigh roughly 260 (30 pounds overweight, so the doctor says). I have only used/tried spring mattresses. I can't speak to foam, although, I know a lot people that like them. I have had the same spring mattress for over 10 years now. You do have to rotate it, once a year. Also, if you sleep alone, make sure that you are not always sleeping in the center - rotate locations also. ...oh, and yes, you HAVE to spend $$$ to get a good mattress. Anyone who says otherwise is being silly.

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    Rob Philpott
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    Sounds like a vote for springs. I'm 6'2 and err (calculator...) about 220lbs. On the subject of tallness, do you find the world is too low down? I'm familiar with not fitting in beds with footboards or seats on public transport, but as I get older and things ache more and I recently realised that I have to stoop over all the time to reach everyday things like kitchen surfaces, wash basins etc. No wonder my posture is so appalling - the world is designed for the more compact person it seems.

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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      Sounds like a vote for springs. I'm 6'2 and err (calculator...) about 220lbs. On the subject of tallness, do you find the world is too low down? I'm familiar with not fitting in beds with footboards or seats on public transport, but as I get older and things ache more and I recently realised that I have to stoop over all the time to reach everyday things like kitchen surfaces, wash basins etc. No wonder my posture is so appalling - the world is designed for the more compact person it seems.

      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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      Slacker007
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      Rob Philpott wrote:

      the world is designed for the more compact person it seems.

      Indeed. I have to have an extra long mattress due to my height (California King is what I think we have). I hate having the feet dangling or hitting the footboard all the time. this type of mattress is usually expensive for a good one.

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      • R Rob Philpott

        I don't much care for waking up in the morning, but its made worse when you've spent the night on a mattress which dips in the middle and has given you backache overnight. I'm on my 3rd mattress in ten years now, and because I'm a superking kind of guy, these things aren't cheap. It goes the same way each time, a new mattress is wonderful and flat but after a few months it starts to dip in the middle. I am genetically quite a big bloke to start off with, and I like to supplement that with a copious helping of lard around the waist so I can't entirely blame the mattress, material science just can't keep up with me. So I'm faced with yet another purchase. Perhaps it is time to splash the cash and go into multiple thousands on one of these things, but that will annoy me intensely if it goes the same way in six months. Mattress guarantees don't cover against the things getting flattened by large men it seems. I can't be alone in this, does it sound familiar? And I know its a divisive topic, but springs or foam? [Suspected this might be a repost, yes I asked a similar question in 2009, page 38,123]

        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        Daniel Pfeffer
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        If you have back problems, I'm told that the harder the mattress the better. My late uncle took this to extremes - he used to sleep on a wooden board. I doubt that you need to go that far... The advantage of spring mattresses is that they can be made with springs of any hardness. Foam mattresses, OTOH, are limited by the strength of the material making up the foam. If you are larger than average, I would definitely go for a hard spring mattress.

        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        • R Rob Philpott

          I don't much care for waking up in the morning, but its made worse when you've spent the night on a mattress which dips in the middle and has given you backache overnight. I'm on my 3rd mattress in ten years now, and because I'm a superking kind of guy, these things aren't cheap. It goes the same way each time, a new mattress is wonderful and flat but after a few months it starts to dip in the middle. I am genetically quite a big bloke to start off with, and I like to supplement that with a copious helping of lard around the waist so I can't entirely blame the mattress, material science just can't keep up with me. So I'm faced with yet another purchase. Perhaps it is time to splash the cash and go into multiple thousands on one of these things, but that will annoy me intensely if it goes the same way in six months. Mattress guarantees don't cover against the things getting flattened by large men it seems. I can't be alone in this, does it sound familiar? And I know its a divisive topic, but springs or foam? [Suspected this might be a repost, yes I asked a similar question in 2009, page 38,123]

          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          This is probably a cultural thing, but I sleep on either the floor with a thin mat (not a mattress, a mat) or if I absolutely had to sleep on a bed, I use a thin mattress (6 inch thickness) with cotton stuffing that's very hard. I had serious trouble sleeping when I visited the UK several years ago as Western style thick mattresses tend to dip in the middle, it gave me bad back pain. And I definitely don't have weight issues, I am 176 cm tall and weigh 65 kg. [Reed mat (craft) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed\_mat\_(craft))

          Cheers, Vikram.

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          • D Daniel Pfeffer

            If you have back problems, I'm told that the harder the mattress the better. My late uncle took this to extremes - he used to sleep on a wooden board. I doubt that you need to go that far... The advantage of spring mattresses is that they can be made with springs of any hardness. Foam mattresses, OTOH, are limited by the strength of the material making up the foam. If you are larger than average, I would definitely go for a hard spring mattress.

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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            Vikram A Punathambekar
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            Woah, I started composing and went away for half an hour, and you said the same thing I did. The harder the surface, the better it is, I totally agree.

            Cheers, Vikram.

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            • R Rob Philpott

              I don't much care for waking up in the morning, but its made worse when you've spent the night on a mattress which dips in the middle and has given you backache overnight. I'm on my 3rd mattress in ten years now, and because I'm a superking kind of guy, these things aren't cheap. It goes the same way each time, a new mattress is wonderful and flat but after a few months it starts to dip in the middle. I am genetically quite a big bloke to start off with, and I like to supplement that with a copious helping of lard around the waist so I can't entirely blame the mattress, material science just can't keep up with me. So I'm faced with yet another purchase. Perhaps it is time to splash the cash and go into multiple thousands on one of these things, but that will annoy me intensely if it goes the same way in six months. Mattress guarantees don't cover against the things getting flattened by large men it seems. I can't be alone in this, does it sound familiar? And I know its a divisive topic, but springs or foam? [Suspected this might be a repost, yes I asked a similar question in 2009, page 38,123]

              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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              obermd
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              Look at the mattress support. Standard box spring and frame supports simply don't work for those of us who are heavier and don't want our mattress to sag. In other words, don't just replace the mattress (it's toast), but replace the support structure with one that's solid and has no gaps for the mattress to sag into.

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                Look at the mattress support. Standard box spring and frame supports simply don't work for those of us who are heavier and don't want our mattress to sag. In other words, don't just replace the mattress (it's toast), but replace the support structure with one that's solid and has no gaps for the mattress to sag into.

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                Forogar
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                I am also Big and Tall. I put a large sheet of 3/4" plywood on top of the box springs, below a standard mattress, and it improved things no end.

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                • R Rob Philpott

                  I don't much care for waking up in the morning, but its made worse when you've spent the night on a mattress which dips in the middle and has given you backache overnight. I'm on my 3rd mattress in ten years now, and because I'm a superking kind of guy, these things aren't cheap. It goes the same way each time, a new mattress is wonderful and flat but after a few months it starts to dip in the middle. I am genetically quite a big bloke to start off with, and I like to supplement that with a copious helping of lard around the waist so I can't entirely blame the mattress, material science just can't keep up with me. So I'm faced with yet another purchase. Perhaps it is time to splash the cash and go into multiple thousands on one of these things, but that will annoy me intensely if it goes the same way in six months. Mattress guarantees don't cover against the things getting flattened by large men it seems. I can't be alone in this, does it sound familiar? And I know its a divisive topic, but springs or foam? [Suspected this might be a repost, yes I asked a similar question in 2009, page 38,123]

                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                  theoldfool
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                  We have foam, it is firm with a pillow top or some such. So, it is soft enough for herself but doesn't sag. But, neither of us is anywhere near 200 lb.

                  30 pounds overweight, so the doctor says

                  Switch to my doctor, he me tells that, according to his chart, I am an 2 and a half inches too short. Working on it. :)

                  >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                  • R Rob Philpott

                    I don't much care for waking up in the morning, but its made worse when you've spent the night on a mattress which dips in the middle and has given you backache overnight. I'm on my 3rd mattress in ten years now, and because I'm a superking kind of guy, these things aren't cheap. It goes the same way each time, a new mattress is wonderful and flat but after a few months it starts to dip in the middle. I am genetically quite a big bloke to start off with, and I like to supplement that with a copious helping of lard around the waist so I can't entirely blame the mattress, material science just can't keep up with me. So I'm faced with yet another purchase. Perhaps it is time to splash the cash and go into multiple thousands on one of these things, but that will annoy me intensely if it goes the same way in six months. Mattress guarantees don't cover against the things getting flattened by large men it seems. I can't be alone in this, does it sound familiar? And I know its a divisive topic, but springs or foam? [Suspected this might be a repost, yes I asked a similar question in 2009, page 38,123]

                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    Foam just simply wont last. But spring mattresses also have a load of foam in them that flattens with time. My solution is to buy hard spring mattresses with less foam and get a two inch memory foam mattress topper on top of it. And accept the fact that the topper needs replacing every few years.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    • R Rob Philpott

                      Sounds like a vote for springs. I'm 6'2 and err (calculator...) about 220lbs. On the subject of tallness, do you find the world is too low down? I'm familiar with not fitting in beds with footboards or seats on public transport, but as I get older and things ache more and I recently realised that I have to stoop over all the time to reach everyday things like kitchen surfaces, wash basins etc. No wonder my posture is so appalling - the world is designed for the more compact person it seems.

                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                      RDM Jr
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                      This is one of my major complaints with the local big & tall clothing stores - why do they put the smaller sizes up high, and the larger ones down low? Why are the XL shirts on the top shelf while the 4XLT shirts are on the shelf that's 3 inches above the floor? I complained to them about it for years (decades, even), but now I usually skip the local shopping altogether and order online.

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                      • R Rob Philpott

                        I don't much care for waking up in the morning, but its made worse when you've spent the night on a mattress which dips in the middle and has given you backache overnight. I'm on my 3rd mattress in ten years now, and because I'm a superking kind of guy, these things aren't cheap. It goes the same way each time, a new mattress is wonderful and flat but after a few months it starts to dip in the middle. I am genetically quite a big bloke to start off with, and I like to supplement that with a copious helping of lard around the waist so I can't entirely blame the mattress, material science just can't keep up with me. So I'm faced with yet another purchase. Perhaps it is time to splash the cash and go into multiple thousands on one of these things, but that will annoy me intensely if it goes the same way in six months. Mattress guarantees don't cover against the things getting flattened by large men it seems. I can't be alone in this, does it sound familiar? And I know its a divisive topic, but springs or foam? [Suspected this might be a repost, yes I asked a similar question in 2009, page 38,123]

                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                        MarkTJohnson
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                        How about one of those fancy air mattresses from the SleepNumber Store?

                        I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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