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  • R RickZeeland

    There are some "cons" to Acronis, they are mentioned here: backup-programs-for-windows[^] :-\

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    Joan M
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    yes, and maybe there are not enough. FFS... 25% reliability. X|

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    • J Joan M

      So I had to buy a backup solution to back up my mother PC in every system shutdown event. I decided to go for ACRONIS as supposedly it was the most advanced, professional, super, better... software of all time related to backup. It is not. I have two backup tasks, one for even months and one for odd months, and two USB hard disks were I store the backups (one for each backup task). Every time I change the hard disk, I deactivate the previous task and activate the one that is paired with the current HDD. And then, for an entire week, all the daily backups fail. In the second week the backup tasks work without trouble. Given I change the disks every month, that solution fails 1/4 of the time it should work. Tired, I have bought AOMEI backupper workstation, and you know what? it just works. With unlimited updates. It's sad when a big company like that makes this kind of things. PS: there are plenty of forums out there with lots of people asking a solution for that problem, so it's not only me. X|

      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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      Forogar
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      I use a free version of AMOMEI - and it just works and does what I want it to. Job done - at a very reasonable price.

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      • J Joan M

        So I had to buy a backup solution to back up my mother PC in every system shutdown event. I decided to go for ACRONIS as supposedly it was the most advanced, professional, super, better... software of all time related to backup. It is not. I have two backup tasks, one for even months and one for odd months, and two USB hard disks were I store the backups (one for each backup task). Every time I change the hard disk, I deactivate the previous task and activate the one that is paired with the current HDD. And then, for an entire week, all the daily backups fail. In the second week the backup tasks work without trouble. Given I change the disks every month, that solution fails 1/4 of the time it should work. Tired, I have bought AOMEI backupper workstation, and you know what? it just works. With unlimited updates. It's sad when a big company like that makes this kind of things. PS: there are plenty of forums out there with lots of people asking a solution for that problem, so it's not only me. X|

        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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        Cp Coder
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        My absolute favorite is the free version of Macrium Reflect. I have used it over a hundred times with zero issues.

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        • C Cp Coder

          My absolute favorite is the free version of Macrium Reflect. I have used it over a hundred times with zero issues.

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          Same here. I have a nightly Reflect backup job that just works.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          • F Forogar

            I use a free version of AMOMEI - and it just works and does what I want it to. Job done - at a very reasonable price.

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            Joan M
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            Yes, in fact the only difference from the free version that I am interested into is the possibility to start the backup triggered by the shut down event, that way it starts the backup while windows OS is shutting down every day, without human intervention. the only way I can be sure that backup task will run everyday. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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            • C Cp Coder

              My absolute favorite is the free version of Macrium Reflect. I have used it over a hundred times with zero issues.

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              Joan M
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              Is the free version capable to launch the backup task when the operating system is shut down?

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              • J Joan M

                So I had to buy a backup solution to back up my mother PC in every system shutdown event. I decided to go for ACRONIS as supposedly it was the most advanced, professional, super, better... software of all time related to backup. It is not. I have two backup tasks, one for even months and one for odd months, and two USB hard disks were I store the backups (one for each backup task). Every time I change the hard disk, I deactivate the previous task and activate the one that is paired with the current HDD. And then, for an entire week, all the daily backups fail. In the second week the backup tasks work without trouble. Given I change the disks every month, that solution fails 1/4 of the time it should work. Tired, I have bought AOMEI backupper workstation, and you know what? it just works. With unlimited updates. It's sad when a big company like that makes this kind of things. PS: there are plenty of forums out there with lots of people asking a solution for that problem, so it's not only me. X|

                www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                Dan Neely
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                I stopped using Acronis years ago after a series of progressively worse UI changes. I just used whatever was built into WHS for years aferwards. In prep for retiring my WHS NAS for something else I setup VEEAM based on recommendations from elsenet. Other than one poorly handled nuisance issue that only happened saving to WHS but not the Synology (something on the WHS box would touch the file midbackup once a week and veeam would freak out and send an email before successfully retrying overnight) it's worked great. My only current complaint is that even at max compression it's daily/monthly snapshots grew the amount of space it was using way faster than WHSs black box did (I'm guessing file vs block level backup and large outlook mailboxes, or not being as smart with temp files). Trying something else for comparison had been on my TODO for a few months, but I've never gotten around to setting it up. :doh:

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I'm glad I didn't see that first - I'd have kept schtum and won the bet! :laugh:

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                  Daniel Pfeffer
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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  kept schtum

                  +5 for the Yiddish. I certainly didn't expect to see Yiddish in the wilds of Wales. :)

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                  • J Joan M

                    So I had to buy a backup solution to back up my mother PC in every system shutdown event. I decided to go for ACRONIS as supposedly it was the most advanced, professional, super, better... software of all time related to backup. It is not. I have two backup tasks, one for even months and one for odd months, and two USB hard disks were I store the backups (one for each backup task). Every time I change the hard disk, I deactivate the previous task and activate the one that is paired with the current HDD. And then, for an entire week, all the daily backups fail. In the second week the backup tasks work without trouble. Given I change the disks every month, that solution fails 1/4 of the time it should work. Tired, I have bought AOMEI backupper workstation, and you know what? it just works. With unlimited updates. It's sad when a big company like that makes this kind of things. PS: there are plenty of forums out there with lots of people asking a solution for that problem, so it's not only me. X|

                    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                    charlieg
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                    can AOMEI handle UEFI? I doubt it. Best test your backups. UEFI sounds like a good idea, bit it will *elephant* you.

                    Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                    • C charlieg

                      can AOMEI handle UEFI? I doubt it. Best test your backups. UEFI sounds like a good idea, bit it will *elephant* you.

                      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                      Joan M
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                      :confused: Isn't UEFI something related to BIOS? What has this to do with backups?

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                      • J Joan M

                        :confused: Isn't UEFI something related to BIOS? What has this to do with backups?

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                        theoldfool
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                        PMJI: If your backup uses bootable recovery media for disaster recovery, it may need configuring for EFI/UEFI. Mine does.

                        >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                        • T theoldfool

                          PMJI: If your backup uses bootable recovery media for disaster recovery, it may need configuring for EFI/UEFI. Mine does.

                          >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                          Joan M
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                          Ok, no, it's only backupping important data, no OS, no disaster recovery... Not needed there, but in the other hand, that data is very important. Thanks for clarifying. :thumbsup:

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                          • J Joan M

                            :confused: Isn't UEFI something related to BIOS? What has this to do with backups?

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                            Jim Knopf jr
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                            Disaster recovery from an external bootable device, prepared by the backup application.

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                              Disaster recovery from an external bootable device, prepared by the backup application.

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                              Joan M
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                              OK, I'm not worried about that, I am only interested in saving the data, reinstalling everything in that computer would be super easy, but the data itself would be a disaster if would be lost. Thanks for the explanation.

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                              • J Joan M

                                OK, I'm not worried about that, I am only interested in saving the data, reinstalling everything in that computer would be super easy, but the data itself would be a disaster if would be lost. Thanks for the explanation.

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                                Jim Knopf jr
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                                There is this old saying: Backups always work for 50%. That means the backup. It helps to test the restore functionality for whatever is needed, files, folders or entire disks.

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                                • J Joan M

                                  Is the free version capable to launch the backup task when the operating system is shut down?

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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  The built-in scheduling doesn't appear to let you schedule a backup for shutdown events. Another option would be to create a backup plan that shuts down the computer when the process is complete. You can invoke the plan from a batch file if you'd like a "single click" sort of operation. This approach would let you perform shutdowns normally or with the backup based upon your choice at the time, rather than always having the backup run.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    The built-in scheduling doesn't appear to let you schedule a backup for shutdown events. Another option would be to create a backup plan that shuts down the computer when the process is complete. You can invoke the plan from a batch file if you'd like a "single click" sort of operation. This approach would let you perform shutdowns normally or with the backup based upon your choice at the time, rather than always having the backup run.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    Joan M
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                                    Yes... but... we are speaking of my mother... I prefer to be 100% sure she gets the backup done when she shuts her computer down no matter how she does it. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                    • J Joan M

                                      Yes... but... we are speaking of my mother... I prefer to be 100% sure she gets the backup done when she shuts her computer down no matter how she does it. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                      Gary Wheeler
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                                      Another approach might be to create an application that listens for the shutdown request and invokes Reflect appropriately. You could have the application tell Windows to cancel the shutdown (so that the backup can run), and have then the Reflect backup plan shutdown when the backup is complete. Note that the application would have to be smart enough to allow the shutdown issued by Reflect.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      • G Gary Wheeler

                                        Another approach might be to create an application that listens for the shutdown request and invokes Reflect appropriately. You could have the application tell Windows to cancel the shutdown (so that the backup can run), and have then the Reflect backup plan shutdown when the backup is complete. Note that the application would have to be smart enough to allow the shutdown issued by Reflect.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        Joan M
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                                        AOMEI costed +/-60.00 € coming with free for life updates. Even it would be a fun program to do, it is not worth the effort for that amount of money. :)

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                                        • J Joan M

                                          So I had to buy a backup solution to back up my mother PC in every system shutdown event. I decided to go for ACRONIS as supposedly it was the most advanced, professional, super, better... software of all time related to backup. It is not. I have two backup tasks, one for even months and one for odd months, and two USB hard disks were I store the backups (one for each backup task). Every time I change the hard disk, I deactivate the previous task and activate the one that is paired with the current HDD. And then, for an entire week, all the daily backups fail. In the second week the backup tasks work without trouble. Given I change the disks every month, that solution fails 1/4 of the time it should work. Tired, I have bought AOMEI backupper workstation, and you know what? it just works. With unlimited updates. It's sad when a big company like that makes this kind of things. PS: there are plenty of forums out there with lots of people asking a solution for that problem, so it's not only me. X|

                                          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                                          rallets
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                                          Yep, I have Acronis from many years, and they go worst every year more... I think the better version was around 2003. Up to the last year I did a disk clone every month, and when I needed it I found it was not working because was missing the partition table... I was very disappointed... Many years ago it just worked with one click. Now they have a ton of features, and are very pricey, but they cannot be compared to other free-version, the free version are much better and reliable, but the UI is worst. Bad decision when you focus on the UI instead of the functionality...

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