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    Southmountain
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    this desktop was working in year 2001, but could not power up in 2002. Now I get some time to work on this PC and back up some personal data from it. any idea for not powering up? CMOS battery failed?

    diligent hands rule....

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      this desktop was working in year 2001, but could not power up in 2002. Now I get some time to work on this PC and back up some personal data from it. any idea for not powering up? CMOS battery failed?

      diligent hands rule....

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      Ron Anders
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      Pull or disconnect the main battery and try to then start it from the charger. If that works and with old hp's it does 99% of the time, then shut down the os gracefully and then reinsert or reattach the battery and soldier on. If that doesn't work try disconnecting the battery and hold down the power button for about 30 seconds then try it from the charger......

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        this desktop was working in year 2001, but could not power up in 2002. Now I get some time to work on this PC and back up some personal data from it. any idea for not powering up? CMOS battery failed?

        diligent hands rule....

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        Dave Kreskowiak
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        Desktop or laptop?

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          Desktop or laptop?

          Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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          desktop

          diligent hands rule....

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            this desktop was working in year 2001, but could not power up in 2002. Now I get some time to work on this PC and back up some personal data from it. any idea for not powering up? CMOS battery failed?

            diligent hands rule....

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            That's far too broad a question for any kind of specific answer: "won't power up" could mean anything. Start with what it does do: Do lights come on? Does it beep? Do you get anything on the display? Does Windows try to load?

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              this desktop was working in year 2001, but could not power up in 2002. Now I get some time to work on this PC and back up some personal data from it. any idea for not powering up? CMOS battery failed?

              diligent hands rule....

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              19 years :laugh: i agree, dropping the HDD into a temporary USB case or different box to retrieve the data might be most practical, unless you have other antique boxes you can scavenge parts from. Ha, you beat out my best roun'toit record. You are correct that the cmos battery will need changing first off. Count beeps if any, note any MB LEDs that light up, then search for beep codes and a MB Manual.pdf for that model. May very likely also need to borrow/swap out the PSU from a different old beater box, before buying a new one. Good luck ~John

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                this desktop was working in year 2001, but could not power up in 2002. Now I get some time to work on this PC and back up some personal data from it. any idea for not powering up? CMOS battery failed?

                diligent hands rule....

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                Southmountain wrote:

                back up some personal data from it.

                If you haven't had any use for the data in 20 years, I'd say it's pretty irrelevant. Leave it and scrap the computer is my recommendation. :doh:

                Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                  Southmountain wrote:

                  back up some personal data from it.

                  If you haven't had any use for the data in 20 years, I'd say it's pretty irrelevant. Leave it and scrap the computer is my recommendation. :doh:

                  Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                  Sorry I guess I have become very laptop centric. You can always take the drive out and use a caddy with a usb to connect the drive as an external disk to your current box. I like this one. [https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-External-Enclosure-Docking-ST0005U-C/dp/B01GF0OYI2/ref=dp\_fod\_1?pd\_rd\_i=B01GF0OYI2&psc=1\](https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-External-Enclosure-Docking-ST0005U-C/dp/B01GF0OYI2/ref=dp\_fod\_1?pd\_rd\_i=B01GF0OYI2&psc=1)

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                    Sorry I guess I have become very laptop centric. You can always take the drive out and use a caddy with a usb to connect the drive as an external disk to your current box. I like this one. [https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-External-Enclosure-Docking-ST0005U-C/dp/B01GF0OYI2/ref=dp\_fod\_1?pd\_rd\_i=B01GF0OYI2&psc=1\](https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-External-Enclosure-Docking-ST0005U-C/dp/B01GF0OYI2/ref=dp\_fod\_1?pd\_rd\_i=B01GF0OYI2&psc=1)

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                    If the machine is that old, it may very well have PATA/IDE disks, not SATA.

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                      If the machine is that old, it may very well have PATA/IDE disks, not SATA.

                      Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                      Open it up and see first. I'll bet it's sata My thermaltake black-x came with an adapter for ide. But it's fiddly.

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                        Southmountain wrote:

                        back up some personal data from it.

                        If you haven't had any use for the data in 20 years, I'd say it's pretty irrelevant. Leave it and scrap the computer is my recommendation. :doh:

                        Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                        Anonymous
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                        The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                        Winston Churchill, 1944
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                        Mark Twain

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                        I agree, what could possibly be relevant after 20 years? Unless games for a retro build?

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                          desktop

                          diligent hands rule....

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                          Change out the CMOS, if possible and give it a try to power up. It's likely not going to improve the situation. It's more likely you're got a bad power supply or motherboard, probably due to bad capacitors. If you really need the data, the cheapest way to get it is to take the drive out and put it into an enclosure or hard drive dock for your type of drive. It'll connect to a new machine over USB and you can get the data.

                          Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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                            Change out the CMOS, if possible and give it a try to power up. It's likely not going to improve the situation. It's more likely you're got a bad power supply or motherboard, probably due to bad capacitors. If you really need the data, the cheapest way to get it is to take the drive out and put it into an enclosure or hard drive dock for your type of drive. It'll connect to a new machine over USB and you can get the data.

                            Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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                            Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                            the cheapest way to get it is to take the drive out and put it into an enclosure or hard drive dock for your type of drive. It'll connect to a new machine over USB and you can get the data.

                            :thumbsup::thumbsup: exactly

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                              If the machine is that old, it may very well have PATA/IDE disks, not SATA.

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                              Peter_in_2780 wrote:

                              If the machine is that old, it may very well have PATA/IDE disks, not SATA.

                              I still have a working USB 1.0 case from 2004 / 2005. The 32 GB HDD inside (an old seagate) is still working :)

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                I agree, what could possibly be relevant after 20 years? Unless games for a retro build?

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                                Mike Hankey wrote:

                                I agree, what could possibly be relevant after 20 years?

                                I saved the data of my father-in-law after an issue with an indian call center with an aprox. 12 years old 32 Bit version of FileScavenger. Some old tools are priceless.

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                                  I agree, what could possibly be relevant after 20 years?

                                  I saved the data of my father-in-law after an issue with an indian call center with an aprox. 12 years old 32 Bit version of FileScavenger. Some old tools are priceless.

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Awesome, definitely worth salvaging. Good luck

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                                    Change out the CMOS, if possible and give it a try to power up. It's likely not going to improve the situation. It's more likely you're got a bad power supply or motherboard, probably due to bad capacitors. If you really need the data, the cheapest way to get it is to take the drive out and put it into an enclosure or hard drive dock for your type of drive. It'll connect to a new machine over USB and you can get the data.

                                    Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                                    Dave Kreskowiak

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                                    good info! thank you!

                                    diligent hands rule....

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                                      That's far too broad a question for any kind of specific answer: "won't power up" could mean anything. Start with what it does do: Do lights come on? Does it beep? Do you get anything on the display? Does Windows try to load?

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                      no any light, no any beep

                                      diligent hands rule....

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                                        19 years :laugh: i agree, dropping the HDD into a temporary USB case or different box to retrieve the data might be most practical, unless you have other antique boxes you can scavenge parts from. Ha, you beat out my best roun'toit record. You are correct that the cmos battery will need changing first off. Count beeps if any, note any MB LEDs that light up, then search for beep codes and a MB Manual.pdf for that model. May very likely also need to borrow/swap out the PSU from a different old beater box, before buying a new one. Good luck ~John

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                                        I moved from east coast to west coast....

                                        diligent hands rule....

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                                          Sorry I guess I have become very laptop centric. You can always take the drive out and use a caddy with a usb to connect the drive as an external disk to your current box. I like this one. [https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-External-Enclosure-Docking-ST0005U-C/dp/B01GF0OYI2/ref=dp\_fod\_1?pd\_rd\_i=B01GF0OYI2&psc=1\](https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-External-Enclosure-Docking-ST0005U-C/dp/B01GF0OYI2/ref=dp\_fod\_1?pd\_rd\_i=B01GF0OYI2&psc=1)

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                                          Southmountain
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                                          thanks for the link!

                                          diligent hands rule....

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