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  • D dandy72

    Rage wrote:

    Much much less pain in the eyes in the end of the day due to less contrast.

    It's not the contrast, it's the brightness. Most people have their monitors set up so bright it's like staring at the sun. No wonder it gets painful. Right now, both of my monitors have their brightness set down to 0 (that's right, zero). Contrast on one is set to 50%, the other at 75%. I've been setting up my monitors that way for decades, and I've never felt that any pain could be attributed to staring at a monitor all day. Of course I can't say how good your display will be with brightness at 0 if you're using a dark theme. But the default light theme has been working great for me since Windows 3.0... Oh, and a good reason to avoid dark theme...on a bright, sunny day, the layer of dust isn't visible. :-)

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    the Kris
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    I agree, so many people have their screen way too bright. Funny anecdote is that I was told at the time that the switch from dark to light background was made because it is more readable and reduces eye strain.

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    • S Slow Eddie

      What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

      The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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      Daniel Will
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      My eyes have used to light mode ever since Windows 3.1. It was never a problem to me. I too find the existence of 'dark mode' weird. I have never used it on PC. Aren't we supposed to work in a light environment? It's useful on mobile, when I playing with my smartphone before bed.

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      • S Slow Eddie

        What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

        The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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        Davyd McColl
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        The "dark" vs "light" debate is silly - use what works for you. Personally, a bright screen (mostly white, with dark text) kind of "overwhelms" me. I prefer darker outputs, find it easier to read and interact with, so I go dark all the way (including using DarkReader for Firefox, dark themes for JetBrains IDEs, dark editor themes, etc)

        ------------------------------------------------ If you say that getting the money is the most important thing You will spend your life completely wasting your time You will be doing things you don't like doing In order to go on living That is, to go on doing things you don't like doing Which is stupid. - Alan Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXTZM\_uPMY

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        • T the Kris

          I agree, so many people have their screen way too bright. Funny anecdote is that I was told at the time that the switch from dark to light background was made because it is more readable and reduces eye strain.

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          dandy72
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          the Kris wrote:

          I was told at the time that the switch from dark to light background was made because it is more readable and reduces eye strain

          Once color monitors were commonplace, I remember reading that green over black was considered to be the worst color combination imaginable. I have no problem believing that.

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          • S Slow Eddie

            What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

            The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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            MikeTheFid
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            I had cataracts and, after surgery, secondary cataracts - recent laser surgery corrected. I simply could not read anything with a white background without getting really close to the screen. It was worst on web sites that use a light gray font color on white - and it's amazing how many do. The Ease of Access (Accessibility) settings on Windows have never been perfect. High contrast simply did not work for me. Dark mode, however, was a nice in-between and allowed me to work.

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            • S Slow Eddie

              What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

              The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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              Kent K
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              Really like dark mode because it is easier on the eyes. The first time I tried it they were like, "ahhhhh, thank you." I work generally in a darker room environment which could be part of the preference. I didn't know we were "not supposed to" work in a darker environment. I like it. Hmm, dark room and dark monitors. ...maybe contributing to potential SAD-like symptoms in the winter months?

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              • S Slow Eddie

                What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                obermd
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                Dark mode saves power on most devices. In theory it also reduces eye strain, but the reality is that it's far more difficult to get colors to pop on a dark canvas so it generally increases eye strain unless the entire color scheme falls into the garish range with bright, clashing colors.

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                • S Slow Eddie

                  What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                  The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                  AnotherKen
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                  I suspect this change was motivated by programmers. It was visible in their Visual Studio sooner (to me). I think that a lot of programmers like to use darkmode because it can make the different colours pop a little more making it easier to read their code. Plus a lot of us older school programmers used to program with monochrome monitors so we are pretty used to something like that already.

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                  • S Slow Eddie

                    What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                    The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                    SkysTheLimit
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                    There seems to be many advocates for light mode so I would speak up in support of dark mode. :-) I use dark mode and was really happy when Windows 10 offered a dark mode. My screen brightness is set low. I've always used dark mode when its available. In my work place (when we were on-site), the lighting is very low - it seems to be the preference of the majority of the developers here and dark mode works better in those conditions.

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                    • S Slow Eddie

                      What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                      The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                      Dark, dark, dark mode - as long as it's done properly!

                      Cheers, Vikram.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Light for me - I find it harder to read things on a dark background.

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                        Matt McGuire
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                        I find the opposite true, but I have moderate dyslexia, and it helps reduce eye strain. for some reason dark mode fixes the words bumping into each other than light mode for me. but there needs to be a pretty good contrast for this to work well. there are quite a few studies that back this up.

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                        • S Slow Eddie

                          What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                          The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          Light mode. I lost my right eye last fall and my left eye has problems with contrast, especially light text on a dark background. I've never been able to use applications that were dark mode only, like Expression Blend. I even have trouble with apps that have gone Modern™ with monochrome solid color icons. If the icons are small (I'm squinting at you, Visual Studio 2015 and 2017), it's very difficult to tell them apart.

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                          • S Slow Eddie

                            What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                            The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                            umeca74
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                            whereas dark vs light is a user choice, the real question is why MS have made it such a PITA for a old school win32 desktop program to show in dark colors. New controls work with hacks and old controls, just forget about it.

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                            • T the Kris

                              I agree, so many people have their screen way too bright. Funny anecdote is that I was told at the time that the switch from dark to light background was made because it is more readable and reduces eye strain.

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                              Kirk 10389821
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                              Much Like Diets... This is very individual I used to run DOS: Yellow on Blue, I do Yellow on Black now. But I have changed my editors away from dark mode. I grew up on Green and Amber (an improvement) monochrome monitors. Agree with others than many people have their monitors too far away, and also too bright. FWIW, you should be able to read your text on your screen without "acquiring" the image. (For laymen, that is without using the fousing muscles in your eye). This reduces eye strain. [Imagine trying to read your screen with your eyes dilated!] in fact, I print a screenshot of text, and TAPE it to the monitor, I keep tweaking the font until it matches properly. Then I measure the distance from my face to the monitor (usually about arms length plus a bit). I bring the PAPER in to my eye exam. I show the doctor where to hold it, and after he has dilated my eyes, he holds the paper, and adjusts it until I can read it easily. THAT becomes the distance I place my monitors. I had LASIK 22 yrs ago, and do not regularly need glasses any longer (But I learned this about 5 years before I had LASIK and my Rx was stable that entire time) There is a website on REVERSING Myopia (most computer people could use this advice)

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                              • S Slow Eddie

                                What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                                The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                                SeattleC
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                                Some people find dark mode easier to read. Just from an accessibility standpoint, that's enough reason. But the other reason is that emissive display technologies like OLED only burn power for light pixels, so dark mode saves battery life.

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                                • S Slow Eddie

                                  What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                                  The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                                  Member_14751866
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                                  Hi, I used to use dark mode to help with my near blindness. Now that my blindness is total I fell like the best mode is light because if I am correct there are driver transistors or chips using power to twist the crystals in fact all the non char generation ones fully to make black and mostly to dark. Is this right? Using power to twist crystals seems a waist? I would love to teach my Lenovo Thinkpad to turn off the backlight and all display driving when the lid is closed. I keep it closed all the time unless I have to show a sighted person something. Good question and anticipating the comments to com. thanks.

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                                  • S Slow Eddie

                                    What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                                    The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                                    User 8439724
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                                    Dark mode has better contrast, and is more confortable to use. But that depends on you setup really, not every dark mode is optimal. Some seem to be made by UI designers, some seem to be just color inversion.

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                                    • S Slow Eddie

                                      What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                                      The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                                      willichan
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                                      In my case, I am sensitive to bright light. Extended times in front of my computer can be painful in "light mode". If I don't have my sunglasses when I go outside, I am generally walking around squinting. Even before "dark mode" was a thing, on any new PC, I would immediately change the background to a flat black color, and edit the theme to have darker colored borders and headers (until they took that ability away). :cool: ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.

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                                      • S Slow Eddie

                                        What is the deal with Light and dark mode in Windows10?:confused: What is the reason dark mode sprang into existence?:confused: I have always used Light mode. I'm wondering if I should "come to the dark side". Finally, which mode do you use and why?

                                        The most important communications skill is the ability to listen to what others say.

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                                        BillWoodruff
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                                        Some of us are so blinded by our own light we need to a dimmer screen.

                                        «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                                        • D dandy72

                                          Rage wrote:

                                          Much much less pain in the eyes in the end of the day due to less contrast.

                                          It's not the contrast, it's the brightness. Most people have their monitors set up so bright it's like staring at the sun. No wonder it gets painful. Right now, both of my monitors have their brightness set down to 0 (that's right, zero). Contrast on one is set to 50%, the other at 75%. I've been setting up my monitors that way for decades, and I've never felt that any pain could be attributed to staring at a monitor all day. Of course I can't say how good your display will be with brightness at 0 if you're using a dark theme. But the default light theme has been working great for me since Windows 3.0... Oh, and a good reason to avoid dark theme...on a bright, sunny day, the layer of dust isn't visible. :-)

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                                          sasadler
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                                          Part of the problem is that monitors seem to come from the factory with 100% brightness! I always try to keep the brightness down to a comfortable level.

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