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  • Mike HankeyM Offline
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    Mike Hankey
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    So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

    The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

      The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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      SeeSharp2
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      Mike Hankey wrote:

      Haven't used it in a while

      Maybe it is AI driven and they knew you hadn't used it much so all they could ask about were the icons. :-D

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      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

        So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

        The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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        Rage
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        That is all they are confident enough to change the code of. The rest is too hard to maintain, let alone modifying it.

        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

          The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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          Slacker007
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          Icons have always been the most important feature of any Microsoft application. :-D

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

            The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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            dandy72
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            Well, that team had been busy for a while, but not so much nowadays...so they're looking for opportunities to justify their existence...

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

              The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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              Rage
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              I am glad uSoft is not mySoft.

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

                The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                Richard Andrew x64
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                It actually only gives you the rest of the survey if you answer approvingly to the new icons. They figure that if a person doesn't like the icons, that they don't have anything meaningful to say.

                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                  It actually only gives you the rest of the survey if you answer approvingly to the new icons. They figure that if a person doesn't like the icons, that they don't have anything meaningful to say.

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  I guess I have nothing meaningful to say then.

                  The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

                    The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                    Thornik
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                    What you expect from company, where 99% of the personnel are indian dancers?? :))) They have literally one working guy and he is.... GRAPHICS DESIGNER! :) As a small proof of that: When I asked 'em to improve intellisense, they told me... "WRITE YOURSELF AND SHARE!". Can you imagine that?!? Me. Alien to the company guy. Write for free important, serious code. And they take it in a product. Hell, gimme all your salaries, loafers! THEN I'll consider what's better - to write code inside your ugly designed VS (I mean API) or write new IDE from scratch.

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

                      The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                      Mark Quennell
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                      Other than now using 64-bit, isn't that all VS2022 preview has changed so far?

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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                        So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

                        The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                        MadGerbil
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                        So... what did you think of the icons?

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

                          The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                          Member 9167057
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                          There is seriously people out there, to whom icons are a defining feature.

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                          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                            So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

                            The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                            BernardIE5317
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                            I quite dislike the new icons I even wrote a nasty note re/ them in the survey I find them difficult to discern which interrupts and slows my efforts

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                              I quite dislike the new icons I even wrote a nasty note re/ them in the survey I find them difficult to discern which interrupts and slows my efforts

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                              Mike Hankey
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                              Yeah I agree they are not as discernible as the previous icons. Oh well, the times they are a changin.

                              The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                So I open VS2022 Preview, after really long update, (Haven't used it in a while) and am asked to take a survey to improve VS so I think what the heck. All they want to know is how I like the new icons. Really?, that's the most important feature of VS2022?

                                The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                                Peter Shaw
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                                I've stopped using VS because of stupid stuff like this, gone the jetbrains route couldn't be happier.

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                                  I've stopped using VS because of stupid stuff like this, gone the jetbrains route couldn't be happier.

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                                  Mike Hankey
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                                  Can't afford it and won't do subscriptions.

                                  The less you need, the more you have. Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load? JaxCoder.com

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                                    Can't afford it and won't do subscriptions.

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                                    Peter Shaw
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                                    Yes unfortunately, I do get the cant afford bit, it's not particularly cheap. The subscription thing though, I think they actually have right compared to many others. With JB you sign up, pay your first year, get your product digitally, then cancel your subscription renewal. At that point, your given a lifetime fall back code, and access to the major version that was last active when you cancelled. If you pay for the first year, then cancel your subs just before it becomes due, then you get to keep that current version for ever, complete with reg code, and without ever paying anymore. If you keep your subs however, you get to keep getting updates, fixes and support. While I don't like what subscription culture has become, JB in my mind are one of the better ones. I have the everything package, so rider, datagrip, dotpeek, webstorm, goland, phpstorm and about a dozen other different apps. If you register on an individual email, not a Corp one you'll all of that for round about £200 GBP which is reduced by I think it's about 10% per year for the first 3 years of you decide to go the subs route, the with a Corp email and it's over £500 GBP just to start. BTW: I'm not trying to sell you on it in just pointing out how they do it, ask anyone who knows me I'm what you might call frugal with money, so For me to be impressed and she'll out for it, is something.

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                                      Yes unfortunately, I do get the cant afford bit, it's not particularly cheap. The subscription thing though, I think they actually have right compared to many others. With JB you sign up, pay your first year, get your product digitally, then cancel your subscription renewal. At that point, your given a lifetime fall back code, and access to the major version that was last active when you cancelled. If you pay for the first year, then cancel your subs just before it becomes due, then you get to keep that current version for ever, complete with reg code, and without ever paying anymore. If you keep your subs however, you get to keep getting updates, fixes and support. While I don't like what subscription culture has become, JB in my mind are one of the better ones. I have the everything package, so rider, datagrip, dotpeek, webstorm, goland, phpstorm and about a dozen other different apps. If you register on an individual email, not a Corp one you'll all of that for round about £200 GBP which is reduced by I think it's about 10% per year for the first 3 years of you decide to go the subs route, the with a Corp email and it's over £500 GBP just to start. BTW: I'm not trying to sell you on it in just pointing out how they do it, ask anyone who knows me I'm what you might call frugal with money, so For me to be impressed and she'll out for it, is something.

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                                      Mike Hankey
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                                      I agree that's the way it ought to be and if I could justify it I would get it but being a lone hobbyist and on a fixed income I can't.

                                      The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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