Best, cheap, ASP.NET Core hosting?
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Hi everyone We host CodeProject on dedicated servers in a very grown up (read: expensive) hosting centre that has all the bells and whistles. This is great, but for a friend who's asking about cheap ASP.NET hosting I'm kind of at a loss as to what to recommend. What are your thought? Requirements: - Must be able to host ASP.NET Core / .NET 5 - Must include SQL Server, MySQL or postgres (at least 10Gb) - Doesn't need much CPU - Doesn't need much disk storage - Needs fast internet - Must be affordable ($10 a month or less) I've (personally) used Winhost but I can't recommend then. They are easy to use, have everything in the above list except speed. Their bandwidth is pretty awful. What are your thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
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Hi everyone We host CodeProject on dedicated servers in a very grown up (read: expensive) hosting centre that has all the bells and whistles. This is great, but for a friend who's asking about cheap ASP.NET hosting I'm kind of at a loss as to what to recommend. What are your thought? Requirements: - Must be able to host ASP.NET Core / .NET 5 - Must include SQL Server, MySQL or postgres (at least 10Gb) - Doesn't need much CPU - Doesn't need much disk storage - Needs fast internet - Must be affordable ($10 a month or less) I've (personally) used Winhost but I can't recommend then. They are easy to use, have everything in the above list except speed. Their bandwidth is pretty awful. What are your thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
I'll toss something into the basket here Chris. Most developers went cloud or Azure, AWS Amazon and Google. They even went cloud with CDN to call CSS, Fonts, etc. I looked into pricing once, you can check off boxes for SQL server, MySQL, Cosmos, Mongo Choose how much bandwidth you want, bandwidth on demand. But it seems to really boil down to how you package your project and how little it's used. The average seems to be 7 to 13 cents a hour which is about $50.40 to $93.60 a month max. I'm not sure if the price represents active use of the container or app, and you don't pay when the container or app is idle. Container pricing - where your container just floats in the system and gets served. [Pricing - Container Instances | Microsoft Azure](https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/container-instances/#pricing) Traditional pricing including virtual machines [App Service Pricing | Microsoft Azure](https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/app-service/windows/#pricing) But considering the price of electricity, service techs, support, cost of software licensing, and profit there is no way in 2021 can you do this for $10 a month in western democracies using that technology unless you have a friend that gives you a solid. I would try looking in places with cheap electricity and fast internet connections like Moldova, Romania, Ukraine, Southern Texas, Central China, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Croatia. I'm not kidding. On the other hand, you can host a Wordpress, Joomla, PHP app for dirt cheap, as low as $1 a month I've seen anywhere in the world. It's the price of the technology, application packaging, electricity that plays a huge factor in price. Haven't talk to you in a long time. I made lots of money in the last 18 months off being a rogue programmer and changing my business model and advertising. Finally bought a car after 18 years of doing this, picked up a really clean used CPO 2018 Porsche Macan GTS with all the power train toys and low miles. There's good money to be made in PHP, but not much help with it.
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I'll toss something into the basket here Chris. Most developers went cloud or Azure, AWS Amazon and Google. They even went cloud with CDN to call CSS, Fonts, etc. I looked into pricing once, you can check off boxes for SQL server, MySQL, Cosmos, Mongo Choose how much bandwidth you want, bandwidth on demand. But it seems to really boil down to how you package your project and how little it's used. The average seems to be 7 to 13 cents a hour which is about $50.40 to $93.60 a month max. I'm not sure if the price represents active use of the container or app, and you don't pay when the container or app is idle. Container pricing - where your container just floats in the system and gets served. [Pricing - Container Instances | Microsoft Azure](https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/container-instances/#pricing) Traditional pricing including virtual machines [App Service Pricing | Microsoft Azure](https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/app-service/windows/#pricing) But considering the price of electricity, service techs, support, cost of software licensing, and profit there is no way in 2021 can you do this for $10 a month in western democracies using that technology unless you have a friend that gives you a solid. I would try looking in places with cheap electricity and fast internet connections like Moldova, Romania, Ukraine, Southern Texas, Central China, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Croatia. I'm not kidding. On the other hand, you can host a Wordpress, Joomla, PHP app for dirt cheap, as low as $1 a month I've seen anywhere in the world. It's the price of the technology, application packaging, electricity that plays a huge factor in price. Haven't talk to you in a long time. I made lots of money in the last 18 months off being a rogue programmer and changing my business model and advertising. Finally bought a car after 18 years of doing this, picked up a really clean used CPO 2018 Porsche Macan GTS with all the power train toys and low miles. There's good money to be made in PHP, but not much help with it.
If it ain't broke don't fix it Discover my world at jkirkerx.com
Nice work on the car! That's awesome. Your comment about actual hours vs "month" hours is very valid, and for this app it will be run very rarely (to start with). To put this in perspective I am currently using WinHost for about $8/month and it comes with Windows, .NET 5 support and SQL Server. It's everything I need. Except the ability to scale and it has terrible bandwidth. There is a place in Germany that offers dedicated servers for about $30 a month (if I remember correctly). You get the bare metal and off you go. They have awesome bandwidth and service. But they are in Germany and with the world being the world, jurisdictions come into play and make life difficult. It's crazy this is still a difficult decision to analyse
cheers Chris Maunder
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Nice work on the car! That's awesome. Your comment about actual hours vs "month" hours is very valid, and for this app it will be run very rarely (to start with). To put this in perspective I am currently using WinHost for about $8/month and it comes with Windows, .NET 5 support and SQL Server. It's everything I need. Except the ability to scale and it has terrible bandwidth. There is a place in Germany that offers dedicated servers for about $30 a month (if I remember correctly). You get the bare metal and off you go. They have awesome bandwidth and service. But they are in Germany and with the world being the world, jurisdictions come into play and make life difficult. It's crazy this is still a difficult decision to analyse
cheers Chris Maunder
Yeh Chris, But bare metal is not scalable nor very redundant. With these these new cloud services you can turn the knob up and down on bandwidth, how many CPU's, or how many nodes process your application. So If this is seasonal say a Xmas application that sells sausage and cheese, you can turn the dial to max on Black Friday and turn it back down in January. I think you can also filter out bots by country as well to reduce bandwidth. Or if you keep all the dials real low, you can slow everything down to keep your bill down at the same level. Compared to $30 a month for bare metal, I'd choose the latter. Then you get into packaging your app at that .Net Core level, where you can put it in a container and just upload the whole container and off it goes. If it gets hacked you just replace the container with another copy. With Docker you can make a Linux container that serves up your .Net app and even include SQL Server for Linux, and anything else you need to run your app in a single container. This reduces your software licensing cost by going Linux versus choosing a Windows Server container. And Docker now supports the new container format as well, so it doesn't have to be a Docker container anymore. You can now even package or create a Kubernetes container that can spawn across a Kubernetes cluster that is scalable as well. You just set how many times max that you wish to scale out the app when busy and how many to idle back down to. How you plan and package your app will have a huge effect on your hosting options and how much you end up paying for it. If you look at my website, it runs in a Linux Docker container using .Net Core support for Linux, with Linux MongoDB infused inside the container as well. This container has a builtin network to support protected communications between the app and MongoDB, and gets served up using Kestrel 2.0 (Http2 with builtin Certificate) that is infused as well. The container listens on a odd number port that is not port 80 or 443 to further secure the container. Finally, this container runs on a Dell Linux cluster of 3 servers that is configured for Kubernetes nodes on super fast SSD drives running Ubuntu Linux command line only. I didn't have the heart to toss out my hardware so I rebuilt it as a cloud service model to experiment with before I pay those high prices. Because of my final litigation with the BSA and Microsoft, we agreed upon me going open source from this point on. I've been studying this technology for 4 years now, but have been rogue implementing
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Hi everyone We host CodeProject on dedicated servers in a very grown up (read: expensive) hosting centre that has all the bells and whistles. This is great, but for a friend who's asking about cheap ASP.NET hosting I'm kind of at a loss as to what to recommend. What are your thought? Requirements: - Must be able to host ASP.NET Core / .NET 5 - Must include SQL Server, MySQL or postgres (at least 10Gb) - Doesn't need much CPU - Doesn't need much disk storage - Needs fast internet - Must be affordable ($10 a month or less) I've (personally) used Winhost but I can't recommend then. They are easy to use, have everything in the above list except speed. Their bandwidth is pretty awful. What are your thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris, Did you try looking at this DiscountASP.NET hosting plan details[^] ? Not sure how about their current performance but once upon a time we had a few demos and prototypes hosted through them. At a $10 budget they seem to be having a few things to offer too.
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Chris, Did you try looking at this DiscountASP.NET hosting plan details[^] ? Not sure how about their current performance but once upon a time we had a few demos and prototypes hosted through them. At a $10 budget they seem to be having a few things to offer too.
Interestingly while debugging an issue with WinHost I found that they use DiscountASP.NETs servers, so either white labelling DiscountASP.NET or simply a rebranded business unit under DiscountASP.NET directly. So I'd have to say a big no to them, unfortunately. Cheap, easy to use, great for demos and small things, absolutely. But painfully slow
cheers Chris Maunder
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Hi everyone We host CodeProject on dedicated servers in a very grown up (read: expensive) hosting centre that has all the bells and whistles. This is great, but for a friend who's asking about cheap ASP.NET hosting I'm kind of at a loss as to what to recommend. What are your thought? Requirements: - Must be able to host ASP.NET Core / .NET 5 - Must include SQL Server, MySQL or postgres (at least 10Gb) - Doesn't need much CPU - Doesn't need much disk storage - Needs fast internet - Must be affordable ($10 a month or less) I've (personally) used Winhost but I can't recommend then. They are easy to use, have everything in the above list except speed. Their bandwidth is pretty awful. What are your thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
smarterasp.net Tried switching a few times but got greatly discouraged and reverted due to the complexity of the software used to perform hosting related tasks. Plesk I think it was called. All 3 alternatives used it. Their support is pretty decent too.