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  • D dandy72

    I was going to recommend Clonezilla as well, until I read the paragraph where OP wants to save the disk image to a NAS. Maybe it's because I've never really looked into its more advanced options, but isn't Clonezilla simply going to take over the target drive, as opposed to writing a backup *file*, which can then be restored elsewhere later? If Clonezilla can do that (just create a file), I really need to take a deeper look.

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    I always use Clonezilla to create an image on a USB drive. I don't remember actually using it to clone directly. I have seen where people use it to write to network storage. I think the local user/password has to be the same as the NAS ones. Never done it myself.

    >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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      I always use Clonezilla to create an image on a USB drive. I don't remember actually using it to clone directly. I have seen where people use it to write to network storage. I think the local user/password has to be the same as the NAS ones. Never done it myself.

      >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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      dandy72
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      theoldfool wrote:

      I always use Clonezilla to create an image on a USB drive.

      Good to know it can do that. I just may modify my backup habit so I have something a little more complete.

      theoldfool wrote:

      I don't remember actually using it to clone directly.

      I've always used Clonezilla exactly in this manner, as its name infers - to clone a disk directly onto another. I've never tried to create just a file.

      theoldfool wrote:

      I have seen where people use it to write to network storage. I think the local user/password has to be the same as the NAS ones

      One would presume that if you're specifying a network share as a target location, there *would* be some mechanism to prompt for credentials.

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      • G GuyThiebaut

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        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

        ― Christopher Hitchens

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        Nelek
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        Me too

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • D Dom Sinclair

          It seems, according to Dell's own tools, that my trusty Precision's ssd is on the way out and they are accordingly dispatching a replacement. Under normal circumstances I would usually take this as an opportunity to start afresh. I keep backups of all data so normally it's not the end of the world to lose a few hours, or days as the the case may be to rebuild the machine and get it back to the way I like it. Time is not on my side at present so I need to cheat, taking a full image of the existing disk in order to restore it to the replacement when it arrives next week. I've never tried this approach before and would be keen to know if others have and with what degree of success. Assuming that indeed it has been successful what would be their recommendation of a suitable product to carry this out. The ssd in question has a capacity of 500gb. I have a NAS available with enough room to accommodate a backup of this size, alternatively I could always access some cloud storage.

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          Joan M
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          Lately I got a brand new computer and wanted to migrate from it's 512GB SSD to a 2TB one. I use AOMEI and I'm glad of doing it (Thanks OG), but seen that it doesn't cope well with UEFI so I was not able to do that. I had a license of ACRONIS 2020 which worked very well. But, and this could be interesting for you, some SSD come with the right to download a free of charge utility like that. Hope this helps.

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            Me too

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            Southmountain
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            me too

            diligent hands rule....

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            • S Southmountain

              me too

              diligent hands rule....

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              dshillito
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              Me too. The paid version. I can also say that I have used it more than once to restore an image (of C drive: 500GB and D drive: 500GB) and it worked flawlessly and its performance was excellent.

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              • D Dom Sinclair

                It seems, according to Dell's own tools, that my trusty Precision's ssd is on the way out and they are accordingly dispatching a replacement. Under normal circumstances I would usually take this as an opportunity to start afresh. I keep backups of all data so normally it's not the end of the world to lose a few hours, or days as the the case may be to rebuild the machine and get it back to the way I like it. Time is not on my side at present so I need to cheat, taking a full image of the existing disk in order to restore it to the replacement when it arrives next week. I've never tried this approach before and would be keen to know if others have and with what degree of success. Assuming that indeed it has been successful what would be their recommendation of a suitable product to carry this out. The ssd in question has a capacity of 500gb. I have a NAS available with enough room to accommodate a backup of this size, alternatively I could always access some cloud storage.

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                Mike Winiberg
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                I've used Paragon Hard Disk Manager tools for many years - as well as imaging, can also convert directly to a runnable VMWare VM etc. Can be booted from a WinPE USB stick (or Linux) so doesn't need the host to be bootable...

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                • D Dom Sinclair

                  It seems, according to Dell's own tools, that my trusty Precision's ssd is on the way out and they are accordingly dispatching a replacement. Under normal circumstances I would usually take this as an opportunity to start afresh. I keep backups of all data so normally it's not the end of the world to lose a few hours, or days as the the case may be to rebuild the machine and get it back to the way I like it. Time is not on my side at present so I need to cheat, taking a full image of the existing disk in order to restore it to the replacement when it arrives next week. I've never tried this approach before and would be keen to know if others have and with what degree of success. Assuming that indeed it has been successful what would be their recommendation of a suitable product to carry this out. The ssd in question has a capacity of 500gb. I have a NAS available with enough room to accommodate a backup of this size, alternatively I could always access some cloud storage.

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                  Member 9167057
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                  My personal aproach to imaging is a Linux live medium and dd. While dd not having any sort of a progress bar is a PITA, it works fine for low-level copying of disks.

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                  • D dshillito

                    Me too. The paid version. I can also say that I have used it more than once to restore an image (of C drive: 500GB and D drive: 500GB) and it worked flawlessly and its performance was excellent.

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                    Miggyfr
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                    Me as well - I do partial backups every day and full clones on the weekend - done this for years now and only had to use the clone once, without a hitch :-)

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                    • D dandy72

                      I was going to recommend Clonezilla as well, until I read the paragraph where OP wants to save the disk image to a NAS. Maybe it's because I've never really looked into its more advanced options, but isn't Clonezilla simply going to take over the target drive, as opposed to writing a backup *file*, which can then be restored elsewhere later? If Clonezilla can do that (just create a file), I really need to take a deeper look.

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                      Martijn Smitshoek
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                      dandy72 wrote:

                      isn't Clonezilla simply going to take over the target drive,

                      Nope - not if you select Disk <==> Image, but it will produce a directory with multiple files that essentially contains a full dump of the disk in question. And, no worries, it does work for Windows. At least, it did for me.

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                      • D Dom Sinclair

                        It seems, according to Dell's own tools, that my trusty Precision's ssd is on the way out and they are accordingly dispatching a replacement. Under normal circumstances I would usually take this as an opportunity to start afresh. I keep backups of all data so normally it's not the end of the world to lose a few hours, or days as the the case may be to rebuild the machine and get it back to the way I like it. Time is not on my side at present so I need to cheat, taking a full image of the existing disk in order to restore it to the replacement when it arrives next week. I've never tried this approach before and would be keen to know if others have and with what degree of success. Assuming that indeed it has been successful what would be their recommendation of a suitable product to carry this out. The ssd in question has a capacity of 500gb. I have a NAS available with enough room to accommodate a backup of this size, alternatively I could always access some cloud storage.

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                        Member 13143510
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                        You can perform a bare metal/image backup with Veeam Backup for Windows. It's free for personal use. The limitation is you can only specify one type of backup. You will need to download the recovery image. You can create a bootable USB or just burn the ISO to disc that you will need for recovery.

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                        • M Martijn Smitshoek

                          dandy72 wrote:

                          isn't Clonezilla simply going to take over the target drive,

                          Nope - not if you select Disk <==> Image, but it will produce a directory with multiple files that essentially contains a full dump of the disk in question. And, no worries, it does work for Windows. At least, it did for me.

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                          dandy72
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                          Martijn Smitshoek wrote:

                          not if you select Disk <==> Image

                          Cool. I will definitely check out that option.

                          Martijn Smitshoek wrote:

                          And, no worries, it does work for Windows. At least, it did for me.

                          Indeed, if it works the way it "should", then a disk is a disk, and it shouldn't matter what file system is in use - and the operating system even less.

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                          • D Dom Sinclair

                            It seems, according to Dell's own tools, that my trusty Precision's ssd is on the way out and they are accordingly dispatching a replacement. Under normal circumstances I would usually take this as an opportunity to start afresh. I keep backups of all data so normally it's not the end of the world to lose a few hours, or days as the the case may be to rebuild the machine and get it back to the way I like it. Time is not on my side at present so I need to cheat, taking a full image of the existing disk in order to restore it to the replacement when it arrives next week. I've never tried this approach before and would be keen to know if others have and with what degree of success. Assuming that indeed it has been successful what would be their recommendation of a suitable product to carry this out. The ssd in question has a capacity of 500gb. I have a NAS available with enough room to accommodate a backup of this size, alternatively I could always access some cloud storage.

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                            matblue25
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                            Any of the packages that let you do a disk clone should work. I’ve done this several times swapping spinners with SSDs on old laptops. I’ve used Aomei, Macrium and EaseUs. All worked. Best if you can create a separate boot medium (thumb drive or such) so you’re not trying to clone the disk you’re booting from. Or use another machine and hook both drives up to it using USB enclosures.

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