Should I allow google to manage my passwords? Do you?
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Chrome's king in terms of user saturation but I'll stay with Firefox for now. I wouldn't want my passwords up in the cloud, somewhere, to begin with. If you cannot connect to that segment of the cloud (perhaps it's just too busy being hacked) - you up :sunshine: creek and your paddle-less boat sprung a leak. Local is good - my passwords (and for that matter, user ID's, are mine. I keep a catalog of the less commonly used ones - but not directly, but instead use hints that mean nothing to anyone but me in how they're to be translated. No - they're not random strings - but they may as well be as they're rarely English words along with the numbers and special chars. Firefox will remember them for me, too . . . no thanks!. Another good option is to send them to Chris Maunder and call him whenever you need your memory refreshed.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Chrome's king in terms of user saturation but I'll stay with Firefox for now. I wouldn't want my passwords up in the cloud, somewhere, to begin with. If you cannot connect to that segment of the cloud (perhaps it's just too busy being hacked) - you up :sunshine: creek and your paddle-less boat sprung a leak. Local is good - my passwords (and for that matter, user ID's, are mine. I keep a catalog of the less commonly used ones - but not directly, but instead use hints that mean nothing to anyone but me in how they're to be translated. No - they're not random strings - but they may as well be as they're rarely English words along with the numbers and special chars. Firefox will remember them for me, too . . . no thanks!. Another good option is to send them to Chris Maunder and call him whenever you need your memory refreshed.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
"Another good option is to send them to Chris Maunder and call him whenever you need your memory refreshed." thanks for the laugh! Haven't laughed that hard in a year..... :laugh: I *do* need to de-chrome. browser makes me bonkers at times. I use firefox a bit, playing with opera now.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
No one can protect your stuff better than you.
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
absolutely NO to me...
diligent hands rule....
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I'm just sooo tired of thinking about elephanting passwords.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I'm never logged in to Google, but use Chrome's pwd manager (on my Windows box) to manage my passwords and credit card information. As I understand, this data is local to my PC. /ravi
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I have no worry at all with Google managing my passwords. They have been doing a fine job all these years, with no security breaches that I am aware of with my accounts. All of my financial sites, and most sites that I pay money on, require 2FA. So, even if my password is compromised, they still can't get in. You know, you can always keep your passwords under the mattress. Just saying.
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I have no worry at all with Google managing my passwords. They have been doing a fine job all these years, with no security breaches that I am aware of with my accounts. All of my financial sites, and most sites that I pay money on, require 2FA. So, even if my password is compromised, they still can't get in. You know, you can always keep your passwords under the mattress. Just saying.
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Google isn't quite Facebook when it comes to privacy scandals (and to make things more spicy, Facebook announced homomorphically analyzing encrypted user communication to target ads), but they're not that far behind, including Google insiders stating that location privacy settings on Android are obtuse on purpose to trick people into not disabling location tracking. My point is, I suggest not to trust Google. At all. Their "don't be evil" motto has been a hollow shadow 10 years ago and there's no reason to assume things would get any better.
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I don't use Chrome. I do use Edge and let MS manage and sync my passwords. Edge also alerts me when a userid/password combination has been discovered on the dark web.
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Actually, The APT17 group via shared international tooling performed Operation Aurora[^] a which penetrated Google along with a myriad of other national assets.
and yet, my username and passwords have not been compromised. By law, Google would have to notify me if they were. I have yet to receive any such notification.
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I'm never logged in to Google, but use Chrome's pwd manager (on my Windows box) to manage my passwords and credit card information. As I understand, this data is local to my PC. /ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
As I understand, this data is local to my PC.
Google / Chrome and only local in PC... do you really believe it? :rolleyes:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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and yet, my username and passwords have not been compromised. By law, Google would have to notify me if they were. I have yet to receive any such notification.
Slacker007 wrote:
By law, Google would have to notify me if they were. I have yet to receive any such notification.
Yas if they always do what law says... :rolleyes:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Slacker007 wrote:
By law, Google would have to notify me if they were. I have yet to receive any such notification.
Yas if they always do what law says... :rolleyes:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
now you are reaching.
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
As I understand, this data is local to my PC.
Google / Chrome and only local in PC... do you really believe it? :rolleyes:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Like I said, you can always keep your passwords under your mattress.
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So, I manage my passwords locally - I've never really invested in a password manager, mainly because I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM. When I see terms and conditions that say, "If we get hacked and someone gets your passwords, we will pay you lots of money to compensate our error." When it comes to security, I'm paranoid. I prefer to manage it myself and not depend on other people. Looking at JSOP... Another example: Report: Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract, Microsoft files protest - GeekWire[^] I have no idea why the NSA thinks this is a good idea. Maybe they aren't putting much interesting stuff up there, but still.... Sorry, ooo shiny I got distracted. So, I guess google has added something to chrome that will magically save all my passwords in their vault, and frankly, I think that's just creepy. Hell, they probably have them already now that I think about it. Comments?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Use the browsers manager for basic websites, say codeproject, and 1Password for everything else, it's never been hacked, and will protect your stuff better than you can. There are so many websites, the totally undisputed best thing you can do, is use a different password on each one. I can't remember them, so 1Password does.
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I use Keepass and I could not be more pleased with it. I do not trust Google as far as I could throw a Sherman tank.
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