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  • K kmoorevs

    dandy72 wrote:

    perhaps it could have some hover text that spells it out.

    Now that's a really good idea! :)

    dandy72 wrote:

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    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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    dandy72
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    kmoorevs wrote:

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    Ooooh, I see what you did there. Well played. :-)

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    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

      On the other hand, if you spell out what the initialism/acronym stands for every time you use it, then you might as well not use it at all. :) I used to laugh whenever I watched one of the many UK "traffic cops"-type shows, where they'd repeatedly refer to "ANPR, which stands for Automated Number Plate Recognition". If you're going to say that every time, you might as well drop the "ANPR, which stands for" part. :laugh:


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      obermd
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      Just spell it out the first time you use it and then put the acronym in parenthesis.

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      • R rjmoses

        Today, I was reading a Code Project article about the announcement of the new eBPF Foundation. I was taught in English 101 that the first time an abbreviation such a eBPF is used in an article, the author, as a courtesy to the reader and for clarity, should spell it out. Now, somewhere along the line, I missed what eBPF stood for, so I had to go searching. It turned out that eBPF is an extension of BPF. So, my question became--"What the HELL is BPF?" And this lead to more searches to discover that the author was talking about "Berkeley Packet Filter". So I am asking people to spell out what an abbreviation stands for the first time it is used or, as my mother would say, IWCOTABYA.

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        kalberts
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        As I sit here by my PC (Personal Computer), listening to music on my DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) radio - in your area, FM (Frequency Modulation) radio may still be dominant - I receive an SMS (Short Message Signaling) on my GSM (Global System for Mobile communication) phone saying that I ought to see the TV (TeleVision) broadcast tonight from BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) about people's inability to handle commonly recognized TLAs (Three Letter Abbreviations). Since the days of LP (Long Play) discs, through CDs (Compact Discs) and DVDs (Digital Versatile Discs), TLAs and ETLAs (Extended Three Letter Abbreviations) have made little sense. Streaming technology managed by HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) or HTTPS (Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure) over the IP (Internet Protocol), with content managed by HTML (HyperText Markup Language) providet by your ISP (Internet Service Provider) may gradually replace physical media. Here, at CP (Code Project), I suppose that anyone from USA (United States of America) and GB (Great Britain), and even those from EU (European Union) are familiar with many of these ETLAs. Yet, as a service to those who do not immediately recognize e.g. BMW (Bayerische Motoren Werke AG) or LG (Lucky Goldstar) I suggest that we make it a habit to explain such terms when referring to such terms. Remember that it may be essential even when referring to e.g. a bottle of Dr. (Doctor) Pepper, or when updating your CV (Curriculum Vitae).

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        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

          On the other hand, if you spell out what the initialism/acronym stands for every time you use it, then you might as well not use it at all. :) I used to laugh whenever I watched one of the many UK "traffic cops"-type shows, where they'd repeatedly refer to "ANPR, which stands for Automated Number Plate Recognition". If you're going to say that every time, you might as well drop the "ANPR, which stands for" part. :laugh:


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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          englebart
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          Please explain what “UK” means. 😂

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          • K kalberts

            As I sit here by my PC (Personal Computer), listening to music on my DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) radio - in your area, FM (Frequency Modulation) radio may still be dominant - I receive an SMS (Short Message Signaling) on my GSM (Global System for Mobile communication) phone saying that I ought to see the TV (TeleVision) broadcast tonight from BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) about people's inability to handle commonly recognized TLAs (Three Letter Abbreviations). Since the days of LP (Long Play) discs, through CDs (Compact Discs) and DVDs (Digital Versatile Discs), TLAs and ETLAs (Extended Three Letter Abbreviations) have made little sense. Streaming technology managed by HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) or HTTPS (Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure) over the IP (Internet Protocol), with content managed by HTML (HyperText Markup Language) providet by your ISP (Internet Service Provider) may gradually replace physical media. Here, at CP (Code Project), I suppose that anyone from USA (United States of America) and GB (Great Britain), and even those from EU (European Union) are familiar with many of these ETLAs. Yet, as a service to those who do not immediately recognize e.g. BMW (Bayerische Motoren Werke AG) or LG (Lucky Goldstar) I suggest that we make it a habit to explain such terms when referring to such terms. Remember that it may be essential even when referring to e.g. a bottle of Dr. (Doctor) Pepper, or when updating your CV (Curriculum Vitae).

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            Member 7989122 wrote:

            e.g. BMW (Bayerische Motoren Werke AG)

            You missed a couple. :) Your post is seriously funny, and makes your point very well.

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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            • R rjmoses

              Today, I was reading a Code Project article about the announcement of the new eBPF Foundation. I was taught in English 101 that the first time an abbreviation such a eBPF is used in an article, the author, as a courtesy to the reader and for clarity, should spell it out. Now, somewhere along the line, I missed what eBPF stood for, so I had to go searching. It turned out that eBPF is an extension of BPF. So, my question became--"What the HELL is BPF?" And this lead to more searches to discover that the author was talking about "Berkeley Packet Filter". So I am asking people to spell out what an abbreviation stands for the first time it is used or, as my mother would say, IWCOTABYA.

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              grralph1
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              Agree. Just tell us what your mother would say. Since no one else is asking. (I googled it and the only find was CP Lounge Forum.)

              "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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              • G grralph1

                Agree. Just tell us what your mother would say. Since no one else is asking. (I googled it and the only find was CP Lounge Forum.)

                "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                mngerhold
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                guess: I won't comment on the A (aim?) behind your actions

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                • R rjmoses

                  Today, I was reading a Code Project article about the announcement of the new eBPF Foundation. I was taught in English 101 that the first time an abbreviation such a eBPF is used in an article, the author, as a courtesy to the reader and for clarity, should spell it out. Now, somewhere along the line, I missed what eBPF stood for, so I had to go searching. It turned out that eBPF is an extension of BPF. So, my question became--"What the HELL is BPF?" And this lead to more searches to discover that the author was talking about "Berkeley Packet Filter". So I am asking people to spell out what an abbreviation stands for the first time it is used or, as my mother would say, IWCOTABYA.

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                  BillWoodruff
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                  rjmoses wrote:

                  Today, I was reading read a Code Project article about the announcement of the new eBPF Foundation. I was taught learned, in English 101, that the first time an abbreviation, such a eBPF like "eBPF," is used in an article, the author, as a courtesy to the reader, and for clarity, should spell it out. Now, somewhere along the line, I missed I did not know what eBPF stood for, so I had to go searching: I had to look it up. It turned out I found that "eBPF" is an extension of "BPF." So, my question becameThen, I wanted to know: "What the HELL is 'BPF'?" And this lead to more searches to discover that the author was talking about I found "BPF" stands for: "Berkeley Packet Filter." So I am asking people to spell out what anI believe articles would be improved if the authors would spell out what an abbreviation stands for the first time it is used or, as my mother would say, IWCOTABYA.

                  «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                  • K kalberts

                    As I sit here by my PC (Personal Computer), listening to music on my DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) radio - in your area, FM (Frequency Modulation) radio may still be dominant - I receive an SMS (Short Message Signaling) on my GSM (Global System for Mobile communication) phone saying that I ought to see the TV (TeleVision) broadcast tonight from BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) about people's inability to handle commonly recognized TLAs (Three Letter Abbreviations). Since the days of LP (Long Play) discs, through CDs (Compact Discs) and DVDs (Digital Versatile Discs), TLAs and ETLAs (Extended Three Letter Abbreviations) have made little sense. Streaming technology managed by HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) or HTTPS (Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure) over the IP (Internet Protocol), with content managed by HTML (HyperText Markup Language) providet by your ISP (Internet Service Provider) may gradually replace physical media. Here, at CP (Code Project), I suppose that anyone from USA (United States of America) and GB (Great Britain), and even those from EU (European Union) are familiar with many of these ETLAs. Yet, as a service to those who do not immediately recognize e.g. BMW (Bayerische Motoren Werke AG) or LG (Lucky Goldstar) I suggest that we make it a habit to explain such terms when referring to such terms. Remember that it may be essential even when referring to e.g. a bottle of Dr. (Doctor) Pepper, or when updating your CV (Curriculum Vitae).

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                    rjmoses
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                    Love it! Well done.

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                    • B BillWoodruff

                      rjmoses wrote:

                      Today, I was reading read a Code Project article about the announcement of the new eBPF Foundation. I was taught learned, in English 101, that the first time an abbreviation, such a eBPF like "eBPF," is used in an article, the author, as a courtesy to the reader, and for clarity, should spell it out. Now, somewhere along the line, I missed I did not know what eBPF stood for, so I had to go searching: I had to look it up. It turned out I found that "eBPF" is an extension of "BPF." So, my question becameThen, I wanted to know: "What the HELL is 'BPF'?" And this lead to more searches to discover that the author was talking about I found "BPF" stands for: "Berkeley Packet Filter." So I am asking people to spell out what anI believe articles would be improved if the authors would spell out what an abbreviation stands for the first time it is used or, as my mother would say, IWCOTABYA.

                      «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                      rjmoses
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                      Aaahh, the vagaries of the English language! Love it!

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                      • R rjmoses

                        Aaahh, the vagaries of the English language! Love it!

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                        BillWoodruff
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                        "vagaries" So it's the language's fault that you and other authors can't express yourself in reasonably grammatic sentences, and, phrasing that communicates effectively ? I understand that ! If there weren't so many damn platforms, and cross-platform frameworks, I could be writing web SPA's that "would just work" everywhere. :) For people who learned a second language ... they did not grow up speaking ... reasonably well, tolerance, in their use of the second language, is a good thing, particularly when the goal is communicating technical information, solutions, techniques.

                        «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                        • B BillWoodruff

                          "vagaries" So it's the language's fault that you and other authors can't express yourself in reasonably grammatic sentences, and, phrasing that communicates effectively ? I understand that ! If there weren't so many damn platforms, and cross-platform frameworks, I could be writing web SPA's that "would just work" everywhere. :) For people who learned a second language ... they did not grow up speaking ... reasonably well, tolerance, in their use of the second language, is a good thing, particularly when the goal is communicating technical information, solutions, techniques.

                          «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                          BillWoodruff wrote:

                          For people who learned a second language ... they did not grow up speaking ... reasonably well, tolerance, in their use of the second language, is a good thing, particularly when the goal is communicating technical information, solutions, techniques

                          I agree. The OP's statement brings to mind the old British article of faith from the time of the Empire, namely that all foreigners are naturally inferior to the British (among other reasons) because they cannot speak grammatically correct King's/Queen's English. This, for example, allowed a yobbo from the slums of Liverpool to feel superior to even the most cultured Indian. Needless to say, they were wrong!

                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                          • D Daniel Pfeffer

                            BillWoodruff wrote:

                            For people who learned a second language ... they did not grow up speaking ... reasonably well, tolerance, in their use of the second language, is a good thing, particularly when the goal is communicating technical information, solutions, techniques

                            I agree. The OP's statement brings to mind the old British article of faith from the time of the Empire, namely that all foreigners are naturally inferior to the British (among other reasons) because they cannot speak grammatically correct King's/Queen's English. This, for example, allowed a yobbo from the slums of Liverpool to feel superior to even the most cultured Indian. Needless to say, they were wrong!

                            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                            BillWoodruff
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                            Hi Daniel, I don't have enough "context" here for me to hypothesize there is anglo-chauvinism in the OP's post. I agree with the OP that the quality of writing on many CP articles is often dreadful ... from an "absolute" standard, but, for me, useful technical content is more important than style. cheers, Bill

                            «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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