New Zealand goes back into lockdown.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
There (presumably) has to be more to it than that
Rule by fear. The reactions of governments is now beyond ridiculous. The virus is here to stay and no amount of lockdowns, quarantines or red lists is going to change that. The sooner we all get back to normal the sooner we (and future generations) will be able to live with it.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
The sooner we all get back to normal the sooner we (and future generations) will be able to live with it.
I can't imagine, that we'll be able to "go back to normal". But I agree that we should accept it is here to stay (at least for a good while) and try to evolve and adapt, creating a newer version of "normal". Trying to live respecting it, but not fearing it to the point of shutting everything down every few months.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
The sooner we all get back to normal the sooner we (and future generations) will be able to live with it.
I can't imagine, that we'll be able to "go back to normal". But I agree that we should accept it is here to stay (at least for a good while) and try to evolve and adapt, creating a newer version of "normal". Trying to live respecting it, but not fearing it to the point of shutting everything down every few months.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
The lockdowns are not for stopping the virus in it's tracks. They're for slowing down the spread so hospitals are not overrun to beyond capacity, like is happening in the South right now.
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Slacker007 wrote:
COVID foreva Lockdown foreva Masks foreva Fear foreva
Government control foeva. (Completed it for you)
A bogyman of your own imagination. Congratulations. You fear your own dreams.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
A bogyman of your own imagination. Congratulations. You fear your own dreams.
Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
Dave KreskowiakIt's a very popular style: whatever the government does is equated to some sort of Orwellian overreach. It's easier than accepting that, like it or not, everyone does not have the right to do whatever they want. That the rights of other people in the world exist and may, at times, interfere with their own rights. That their decisions may negatively impact others. That . . . when it really comes down to it, their mindset is an endless "me first".
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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It's a very popular style: whatever the government does is equated to some sort of Orwellian overreach. It's easier than accepting that, like it or not, everyone does not have the right to do whatever they want. That the rights of other people in the world exist and may, at times, interfere with their own rights. That their decisions may negatively impact others. That . . . when it really comes down to it, their mindset is an endless "me first".
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I know, right? Ask them for the last instance of "government control" and you get crickets. In my humble opinion, the last time we ever came anywhere close to "government control" was when over 2 million people were drafted for the Vietnam war. But according to them, "wear a mask?! Oh, the horror of government control!"
Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
Dave Kreskowiak -
It's a very popular style: whatever the government does is equated to some sort of Orwellian overreach. It's easier than accepting that, like it or not, everyone does not have the right to do whatever they want. That the rights of other people in the world exist and may, at times, interfere with their own rights. That their decisions may negatively impact others. That . . . when it really comes down to it, their mindset is an endless "me first".
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I still get +8 points when you thumbs down my post. Awesome!! :laugh: I am glad though, that it was you. Brings back memories of the Soapbox, and how much fun we had there.
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I know, right? Ask them for the last instance of "government control" and you get crickets. In my humble opinion, the last time we ever came anywhere close to "government control" was when over 2 million people were drafted for the Vietnam war. But according to them, "wear a mask?! Oh, the horror of government control!"
Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
Dave KreskowiakDon't forget the Science bit: the vaccine includes a government tracking chip that can monitor everything you do! Without ever needing charging, although their mobile phone with a much, much bigger battery struggles to last a whole day ... and already monitors everything they say, and everywhere they go. Consistency: that's probably fake news as well. :sigh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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The lockdowns are not for stopping the virus in it's tracks. They're for slowing down the spread so hospitals are not overrun to beyond capacity, like is happening in the South right now.
Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
Dave KreskowiakI know... and I actually am not against them. But it pisses me a bit off, how they are being politized and partially missused.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Lockdowns are for prisons. Apparently Kiwis are all prisoners. I wonder if the crime they committed is trying to live free while voting for prison guards.
What emotional dribble. New Zealand for the last 18 months have pretty much been able to live very normal lives without much concern for COVID. The lockdowns are part of that fight for our freedom! Modern day softies have lost sight of the need to fight and protect your country’s freedoms and are now too concerned with petty self interests.
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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It's a very popular style: whatever the government does is equated to some sort of Orwellian overreach. It's easier than accepting that, like it or not, everyone does not have the right to do whatever they want. That the rights of other people in the world exist and may, at times, interfere with their own rights. That their decisions may negatively impact others. That . . . when it really comes down to it, their mindset is an endless "me first".
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
hat the rights of other people in the world exist and may, at times, interfere with their own rights. That their decisions may negatively impact others.
Exactly... your rights end, where the rights of the next person start. Here in Germany is really sad to see and to hear some people. Heck... once in the hospital, medics coming to do the daily visit and a woman asking them to come back later because she was having a phone call. :wtf: :doh: :doh: Seriously? You are in the hospital not in an :elephant:ing spa I partially welcome the new meassures: You want to go somewhere? You have to prove your shot, your recovering or a test no older than 24 hours. And the free tests end next month. So... if you have not had it or you are not vacunated, you will have to pay for all the tests from your own money. You go on holidays to a not "green" place, you come back and you have to do quarentine. You have COVID and you get ill, you have medical cover but you don't get sick leave (no money for the days you don't work).
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
There (presumably) has to be more to it than that
Rule by fear. The reactions of governments is now beyond ridiculous. The virus is here to stay and no amount of lockdowns, quarantines or red lists is going to change that. The sooner we all get back to normal the sooner we (and future generations) will be able to live with it.
I think "normal" is gone forever. What is "normal" by the way? I disagree that it is "rule by fear".
Commander Vimes
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It's a very popular style: whatever the government does is equated to some sort of Orwellian overreach. It's easier than accepting that, like it or not, everyone does not have the right to do whatever they want. That the rights of other people in the world exist and may, at times, interfere with their own rights. That their decisions may negatively impact others. That . . . when it really comes down to it, their mindset is an endless "me first".
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Got it correct there. :thumbsup:
Carrot
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Lockdowns are for prisons. Apparently Kiwis are all prisoners. I wonder if the crime they committed is trying to live free while voting for prison guards.
I hate to be critical, but that's just plain STUPID! Not saying you are, just the statement. The mayor of New Orleans initiated a lockdown when covid first appeared. Restauranteurs and Bar owners, complained, but we wound up having the LOWEST infection rate in not only Louisiana, but all of the Southeastern U.S. I wonder how many lives were saved?
Corporal Carrot
