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  • G Gary R Wheeler

    I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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    I rely on the page below for monitor advice Though I have yet been able to afford the recommendation Best Wishes - Cheerio Time to upgrade your monitor @ tonsky.me[^]

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    • G Gary R Wheeler

      I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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      Joan M
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      I have two Thinkvision P24h-10 monitors, not the best thing in the world, but I always preferred 2 monitors side by side than one single monitor, that way you can maximize windows without issues in each display. Nowadays there are big displays that come with a native firmware option that make them work as multiple physical displays (PIP or PBP can't remember which name is the right one). Then, shiny monitors usually give you better image quality (less coatings in front of the display), but they tend to show your face and lights and everything in the room. I'd go for any matte display which is big enough, with a refresh rate that would not hurt you, check it has no PWM issues (some flicker a lot when brightness is lowered), a few monitors have a kind of dock station in their backs, nice thing to consider if you work with a laptop. My Lenovo are not the best in the market, I have heard good things of Dell, but I can't help more than that. :beer:

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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        dandy72 wrote:

        4K at 24 or even 27 inches is going to be a complete waste

        It turns out my laptop video doesn't support 4K resolution, so it's kind of a moot point. The reason I was interested in 4K was that even though text is being drawn at the same point size, you've got 4 times as many pixels to use for anti-aliasing and smoothing to improve readability.

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        Correct. But if you don't have the eyesight to see it...then over such a small surface, can you really tell the difference? I mean, some people swear they can't tell the difference between a DVD (480p) and a Blu-ray (1080p) image, shown on a 60"+ TV. And the difference there is much more significant than going from 1080p to 4K.

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          I rely on the page below for monitor advice Though I have yet been able to afford the recommendation Best Wishes - Cheerio Time to upgrade your monitor @ tonsky.me[^]

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          Interesting. The writeup is somewhat Apple-centric, but the rest of the information is useful. Thanks!

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          • G Gary R Wheeler

            I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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            Lost User
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            Need a new one too, so monitoring this question from my 17".

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              I'd consider an augmented reality headset; for a demo at least. A wireless keyboard / mouse or just your hands; and any number of holographic windows of any size, orientation and location.

              It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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              Gerry Schmitz wrote:

              I'd consider an augmented reality headset; for a demo at least.

              As a replacement for a monitor? :D

              Gerry Schmitz wrote:

              A wireless keyboard / mouse or just your hands; and any number of holographic windows of any size, orientation and location.

              Sure, with the resolution to do WarCraft eh? We had those 3d desktops since win 3.1. It was an immediate succes since, ehr, never? No, not even slightly impressed.

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                Need a new one too, so monitoring this question from my 17".

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                Gary R Wheeler
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                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                monitoring this question from my 17"

                Boy are you in for a treat! :-D

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                  Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                  I'd consider an augmented reality headset; for a demo at least.

                  As a replacement for a monitor? :D

                  Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                  A wireless keyboard / mouse or just your hands; and any number of holographic windows of any size, orientation and location.

                  Sure, with the resolution to do WarCraft eh? We had those 3d desktops since win 3.1. It was an immediate succes since, ehr, never? No, not even slightly impressed.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  1. I never said as a replacement. 2) Both my parents went blind, so I have an interest. 3) I have used the KB and Mouse with Hololens; it is not a Windows 3.1 desktop; the windows are "in space"; there is no "desktop". Meaningless to you, but the U.S. Army purchased a few billion $ worth from MS. 4) The resolution for the AR and XR headsets I have is HD. 5) You don't impress me either.

                  It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                    1. I never said as a replacement. 2) Both my parents went blind, so I have an interest. 3) I have used the KB and Mouse with Hololens; it is not a Windows 3.1 desktop; the windows are "in space"; there is no "desktop". Meaningless to you, but the U.S. Army purchased a few billion $ worth from MS. 4) The resolution for the AR and XR headsets I have is HD. 5) You don't impress me either.

                    It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                    Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                    1. I never said as a replacement.

                    You'd just consider, and now you hide behind the fact that you didn't say it aloud? :)

                    Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                    1. Both my parents went blind, so I have an interest.

                    I come from a school of handicapped people. Do explain how this is relevant to your choice of visualization.

                    Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                    1. I have used the KB and Mouse with Hololens; it is not a Windows 3.1 desktop; the windows are "in space"; there is no "desktop". Meaningless to you, but the U.S. Army purchased a few billion $ worth from MS.

                    Army can throw money, and they not leading.

                    Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                    1. The resolution for the AR and XR headsets I have is HD.

                    This was about monitors, not headsets :D If you wanna talk army, talk encryption instead of augmented reality. Even there I beat them.

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                    1. You don't impress me either.

                    Hahaha, I would not try to, no reason to :D Srsly, the question is about monitors. It ain't that hard, and you come out to push your "army Augmented Reality Godammit" here (AARGh) :D

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    • G Gary R Wheeler

                      I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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                      GuyThiebaut
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                      For my home monitor I went from a 24", that I purchased in 2013, to a 27" recently. I would recommend getting a 27" monitor, essentially bigger is better in my experience. The monitor I have is not curved and it's fine for me.

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                      • G Gary R Wheeler

                        I'm in the market for a new monitor. My current home monitor is a 20" flat panel I bought several years ago. I lost my right eye in a fall last year, and anything I can do to reduce eye fatigue is A Good Thing. I'm thinking a 24" or 27" would be easier to read, and probably 4K resolution. My questions: Q1: Does a curved monitor help with our typical work style (lots of text), or is this just a gimmick? I have an intuitive feeling it might help me, since I turn my head a lot more now when working. A curved screen would seem to also reduce depth of focus changes somewhat as I turn. Q2: Any general suggestions on manufacturers or models who are good, who to avoid? Thanks for your help.

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                        Moo v This
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                        I would stick with flat monitors, yes plural you need two at least. Flat because it is easier for eyes to stay focused when everything is in the same plane. Try reading a piece of text on a curved piece of paper in landscape. Have one eye makes this even more problematic, I think. 24" at least, 2K is already a good improvement. 4K has more definition but I am not sure if the software we use renders correctly at that resolution.

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