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  • G glennPattonWork3

    Hi, I am working/contracting for a firm where most of the staff is still working from home. There are a lot of younger/graduates around. We had a major power cut on Thursday (build work next door managed to put it out). One of the test PC's on the shop floor died. I was the only technical person who knew what the 'odd' connects in the case were (ISA ports), the funky old version of Windows (2000) there was also whats that port (paraellel). The worst point was 'Win95? Old Skool' :omg: turns out the guy wasn't born until 1999. To all when do you start feeling old not experienced. :confused:

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    When you realise that: * You not only know what 6502, 6809, 8080, 8085, 8086, (and many others) are, but you've written assembly-language code for each of them. * The IBM 360 is younger than you are. ... * (for some of us) ENIAC is younger than they are Is there someone here who was born before the [Mark I](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard\_Mark\_I)?

    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      The first time I worked for someone younger than me.

      >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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      That doesn't bother me. I never wanted to go into Management (shudder) - not even as a lowly Team Leader. I have an "agreement" with my boss - he doesn't ask me to deal with political cr@p, thus freeing me to deal with the technical side. So far, it has worked quite well...

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        Hi, I am working/contracting for a firm where most of the staff is still working from home. There are a lot of younger/graduates around. We had a major power cut on Thursday (build work next door managed to put it out). One of the test PC's on the shop floor died. I was the only technical person who knew what the 'odd' connects in the case were (ISA ports), the funky old version of Windows (2000) there was also whats that port (paraellel). The worst point was 'Win95? Old Skool' :omg: turns out the guy wasn't born until 1999. To all when do you start feeling old not experienced. :confused:

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        I started to feel old when realized one of the newcomers don't even recognize a 1.44 FD...

        "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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        • D Daniel Pfeffer

          That doesn't bother me. I never wanted to go into Management (shudder) - not even as a lowly Team Leader. I have an "agreement" with my boss - he doesn't ask me to deal with political cr@p, thus freeing me to deal with the technical side. So far, it has worked quite well...

          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

          I have an "agreement" with my boss - he doesn't ask me to deal with political cr@p, thus freeing me to deal with the technical side. So far, it has worked quite well...

          I officially envy you :sigh:

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          • G glennPattonWork3

            Hi, I am working/contracting for a firm where most of the staff is still working from home. There are a lot of younger/graduates around. We had a major power cut on Thursday (build work next door managed to put it out). One of the test PC's on the shop floor died. I was the only technical person who knew what the 'odd' connects in the case were (ISA ports), the funky old version of Windows (2000) there was also whats that port (paraellel). The worst point was 'Win95? Old Skool' :omg: turns out the guy wasn't born until 1999. To all when do you start feeling old not experienced. :confused:

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            Nelek
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            In General: When walking by a school some kids threw a ball above the fence and then told me: "Excuse me, sir, would you mind to give us the ball?" (sir, but not in the UK "noble" meaning) At work: Having solved an overflow problem, explaining the new what happened by using the Y2K as example and seeing their "what the :elephant: is he talking about?" face

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              In General: When walking by a school some kids threw a ball above the fence and then told me: "Excuse me, sir, would you mind to give us the ball?" (sir, but not in the UK "noble" meaning) At work: Having solved an overflow problem, explaining the new what happened by using the Y2K as example and seeing their "what the :elephant: is he talking about?" face

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              Nelek wrote:

              "Excuse me, sir, would you mind to give us the ball?" (sir, but not in the UK "noble" meaning)

              I would just assume that these were properly raised kids, unlike many of the louts you see on the streets these days. :sigh:

              Nelek wrote:

              Having solved an overflow problem, explaining the new what happened by using the Y2K

              That is so last millennium... :)

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              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                Nelek wrote:

                "Excuse me, sir, would you mind to give us the ball?" (sir, but not in the UK "noble" meaning)

                I would just assume that these were properly raised kids, unlike many of the louts you see on the streets these days. :sigh:

                Nelek wrote:

                Having solved an overflow problem, explaining the new what happened by using the Y2K

                That is so last millennium... :)

                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                Nelek
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                Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                I would just assume that these were properly raised kids, unlike many of the louts you see on the streets these days.

                They were... but still... to be called "sir" for the very first time was an eye-opener.

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                  That doesn't bother me. I never wanted to go into Management (shudder) - not even as a lowly Team Leader. I have an "agreement" with my boss - he doesn't ask me to deal with political cr@p, thus freeing me to deal with the technical side. So far, it has worked quite well...

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  UnchainedZA
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                  Almost the same for me, thank goodness!

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    I started to feel old when realized one of the newcomers don't even recognize a 1.44 FD...

                    "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                    It's a 3d Save Icon !

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      I started to feel old when realized one of the newcomers don't even recognize a 1.44 FD...

                      "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                      Have you been 3D printing models of the save icon again?

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                      • G glennPattonWork3

                        Hi, I am working/contracting for a firm where most of the staff is still working from home. There are a lot of younger/graduates around. We had a major power cut on Thursday (build work next door managed to put it out). One of the test PC's on the shop floor died. I was the only technical person who knew what the 'odd' connects in the case were (ISA ports), the funky old version of Windows (2000) there was also whats that port (paraellel). The worst point was 'Win95? Old Skool' :omg: turns out the guy wasn't born until 1999. To all when do you start feeling old not experienced. :confused:

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                        Today they miss out on all the fun things, like: - A requirement to be proficient in Morse as part of your job application, (I failed that part). - Being zapped while fixing a faulty drop shutter on a magi board. - Burning one's fingers swapping out failed valves. - ASCII images stored as rolls of punch tape. ooh la la - Submitting your computing assignment in a large box of carefully ordered punch cards, and get it back two months later with a failed mark due to a hanging tag. - Having to book an international call and use 256baud modem with acoustic coupler to connect to a text only bulletin-board. - Search using Archie, Jughead or Veronica. Then there was Gopher, which was just the bee's knees. - The extravagance of buying the memory chips to upgrade your video card from 256Kb to 1Mb, even though you only have a monochrome green screen. I must admit C# or Python are much more fun than punch cards and the Intel Tiger Lake is a little bit more responsive that the MSC-4. Not old just experienced ;)

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          I started to feel old when realized one of the newcomers don't even recognize a 1.44 FD...

                          "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                          Yes . . . at some point I told a young co-worker that that "Save" icon was an image of a 3.25" floppy disk, something I correctly guessed he had never seen in real life.

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            I started to feel old when realized one of the newcomers don't even recognize a 1.44 FD...

                            "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                            Back when my wife and I started dating in 2007 her kids (11 and 9) were amazed by 5-1/4" floppies. I then showed them the 8" diskettes. They hadn't even seen cassette tapes, which many of us used both for music and for computers.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              When I had to explain to the youngins that ASCII consists of codes below the value of 32 that originated from teletype machines, like BEL :laugh:

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                              MSBassSinger
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                              Great set of delimiters (originating from the teletype days) in that set of characters under 32 ASCII. Proud to be still developing and writing code (mostly C# and T-SQL) at almost 67.

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                              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                That doesn't bother me. I never wanted to go into Management (shudder) - not even as a lowly Team Leader. I have an "agreement" with my boss - he doesn't ask me to deal with political cr@p, thus freeing me to deal with the technical side. So far, it has worked quite well...

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                sasadler
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                                Pretty much the same here. I have no problem being a tech lead but don't want the excessive BS meetings with managers, salesmen and such. Just have no patience for it.

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                                • G glennPattonWork3

                                  Hi, I am working/contracting for a firm where most of the staff is still working from home. There are a lot of younger/graduates around. We had a major power cut on Thursday (build work next door managed to put it out). One of the test PC's on the shop floor died. I was the only technical person who knew what the 'odd' connects in the case were (ISA ports), the funky old version of Windows (2000) there was also whats that port (paraellel). The worst point was 'Win95? Old Skool' :omg: turns out the guy wasn't born until 1999. To all when do you start feeling old not experienced. :confused:

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                                  David Brooks 2021
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                                  I'm amazed at the number of responsible adults I know now, who were born the year I graduated high school.

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                                  • B bmarstella

                                    Back when my wife and I started dating in 2007 her kids (11 and 9) were amazed by 5-1/4" floppies. I then showed them the 8" diskettes. They hadn't even seen cassette tapes, which many of us used both for music and for computers.

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                                    glennPattonWork3
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                                    which many of us used both for music

                                    I still do, well MP3's of tapes... ;P

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                                    • D David Brooks 2021

                                      I'm amazed at the number of responsible adults I know now, who were born the year I graduated high school.

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                                      glennPattonWork3
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                                      Equally I find it shocking the number of 'irresponsible' idots, I went to colledge with who now have responcible jobs & kids.

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                                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                        When you realise that: * You not only know what 6502, 6809, 8080, 8085, 8086, (and many others) are, but you've written assembly-language code for each of them. * The IBM 360 is younger than you are. ... * (for some of us) ENIAC is younger than they are Is there someone here who was born before the [Mark I](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard\_Mark\_I)?

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                                        Born 1945. Didn't see a computer until 1953 though.

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                                        • G glennPattonWork3

                                          Hi, I am working/contracting for a firm where most of the staff is still working from home. There are a lot of younger/graduates around. We had a major power cut on Thursday (build work next door managed to put it out). One of the test PC's on the shop floor died. I was the only technical person who knew what the 'odd' connects in the case were (ISA ports), the funky old version of Windows (2000) there was also whats that port (paraellel). The worst point was 'Win95? Old Skool' :omg: turns out the guy wasn't born until 1999. To all when do you start feeling old not experienced. :confused:

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                                          I still have a commendation on a course page at my University because I was the only person capable of setting up a DosBox environment for MASM, including editing config.sys and autoexec.bat for the environment set up.

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