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  • S stoneyowl2

    After over a year of 'retirement', I started looking for something to occupy my time - and I find that the newest, greatest job search sites don't seem to pay any attention to the resume I upload. I have received alerts for CDL Truck drivers, Product design engineers, Molecular Biologist (??) and others that do not seem to be relatable to the contents of my resume at all. Anybody have any recommendations for sites that at least try to be accurate?

    Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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    Vaso Elias
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    What's wrong with CDL Truck drivers or Molecular Biologist jobs? Apply and tell them that these were recommended to you based on your past skills 🤣.

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      After over a year of 'retirement', I started looking for something to occupy my time - and I find that the newest, greatest job search sites don't seem to pay any attention to the resume I upload. I have received alerts for CDL Truck drivers, Product design engineers, Molecular Biologist (??) and others that do not seem to be relatable to the contents of my resume at all. Anybody have any recommendations for sites that at least try to be accurate?

      Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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      N c a N c a o
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      Maybe there is an explanation for this. The newest job engines belongs to some of the biggest recruitment agencies, and those job engines handle everything in recruiting process for the client company. They offer to integrate part of their services into the website of the company - job application form, job advertisements, and after that they govern the entire process, they save the data, parse the CV and try fill some data from it according their needs. The infrastructure of those job engines requires constant support and quite often this support is outsourced into some BPO company, in a country where the salaries are not so high - Eastern Europe, Magreb, Vietnam etc. etc. Those BPO companies usually hire low paid workers, students or similar, the turnover is quite high, so it is quite easy that some fraud happens. It might even be a common practice - they see some good CV, they tag it wrong and the application of this person is done, it will no longer work properly. Why do they do this - they can use the good CV and they can change it to suit some other, far less experienced developer to land a great job. You can thing of this in the following way - biggest job engines start to be just like some of the biggest social media websites and similar services, for example dating sites. Great commercials, lots of applicants, but the return value for applicants is not much. You might wonder - why is this being unnoticed, how come nobody notice such bad thing? And the answer is - the number of applicants in such engines is very big, some of the biggest clients of such job engines receive thousands of applications - like 600 000 or 700 000 for a 100 or 120 positions. Calculate the ratio. So in very short summary - those job engines are mainly for making cheap commercials, kind of advertising of the companies. It might even happen that HR publish fake job offers of the developers of the engine or integration team publish fake job offers after an update just to see how it works. Main part of personal is recruited by other means. Around 60%-70% of the cases of successful recruiting is when there is a inside recommendation from an existing employee or something similar. The HR of client company in such case follow the application step by step and make sure that everything works fine. At least this is my experience in Europe.

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      • M Mycroft Holmes

        stoneyowl2 wrote:

        After over a year of 'retirement',

        Hah short attention span, I've lasted 2 years so far ;P

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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        Well, my 'retirement' was not of my choosing - after over 3 weeks in hospital, I now am told I cannot drive, and have some short term memory loss, balance issues, tremors in my left hand, etc. *But* I am bored to tears with youtube, and have started trying to catch up with 'new' language technologies and frameworks. My SO is driving me crazy, and vice versa :sigh:

        Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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        • S stoneyowl2

          Well, my 'retirement' was not of my choosing - after over 3 weeks in hospital, I now am told I cannot drive, and have some short term memory loss, balance issues, tremors in my left hand, etc. *But* I am bored to tears with youtube, and have started trying to catch up with 'new' language technologies and frameworks. My SO is driving me crazy, and vice versa :sigh:

          Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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          Slow Eddie
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          Right there with you! I am suffering from the same conditions exactly! for a while they thought I was getting Parkinson's but testing ruled that out. Neurologists came to the conclusion that it was side effect from the anti-seizure drug they have me on. No more seizures, thank God, and since all of mine happened at night, I can now drive. But I have the added aggravation of my boss CONSTANTLY on my A** saying, "Write things down!". Which I try to do, but he talks a 400 words a minute and I can't get him to understand that I can't write that fast. :sigh:

          Nobby Nobbs

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          • S stoneyowl2

            After over a year of 'retirement', I started looking for something to occupy my time - and I find that the newest, greatest job search sites don't seem to pay any attention to the resume I upload. I have received alerts for CDL Truck drivers, Product design engineers, Molecular Biologist (??) and others that do not seem to be relatable to the contents of my resume at all. Anybody have any recommendations for sites that at least try to be accurate?

            Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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            Rage
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            stoneyowl2 wrote:

            greatest job search sites don't seem to pay any attention to the resume I upload

            You should post a nicer picture ;P

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            • S stoneyowl2

              After over a year of 'retirement', I started looking for something to occupy my time - and I find that the newest, greatest job search sites don't seem to pay any attention to the resume I upload. I have received alerts for CDL Truck drivers, Product design engineers, Molecular Biologist (??) and others that do not seem to be relatable to the contents of my resume at all. Anybody have any recommendations for sites that at least try to be accurate?

              Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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              Bruce Patin
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              I would apply for the Molecular Biologist job. You are, after all, associated with a body made of molecules. Sounds like fun. :-D

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              • S Slow Eddie

                Right there with you! I am suffering from the same conditions exactly! for a while they thought I was getting Parkinson's but testing ruled that out. Neurologists came to the conclusion that it was side effect from the anti-seizure drug they have me on. No more seizures, thank God, and since all of mine happened at night, I can now drive. But I have the added aggravation of my boss CONSTANTLY on my A** saying, "Write things down!". Which I try to do, but he talks a 400 words a minute and I can't get him to understand that I can't write that fast. :sigh:

                Nobby Nobbs

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                stoneyowl2
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                Mine is all side effects of NASH - Non-alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver. Build up of ammonia in the brain causes some really weird effects :((

                Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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                • B Bruce Patin

                  I would apply for the Molecular Biologist job. You are, after all, associated with a body made of molecules. Sounds like fun. :-D

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                  stoneyowl2
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                  The only connection I see is that one of my degrees is in Chemistry

                  Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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                  • S stoneyowl2

                    After over a year of 'retirement', I started looking for something to occupy my time - and I find that the newest, greatest job search sites don't seem to pay any attention to the resume I upload. I have received alerts for CDL Truck drivers, Product design engineers, Molecular Biologist (??) and others that do not seem to be relatable to the contents of my resume at all. Anybody have any recommendations for sites that at least try to be accurate?

                    Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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                    SeattleC
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                    Yeah, Indeed.com was a bad choice. Within hours of posting a resume on Indeed, I started getting MLM and package-forwarding scam "jobs". There is no sophisticated "algorithm". Just recruiters spamming you with hard-to-fill positions alongside the afourementioned scams. Where you live is irrelevant. Only the dystopic hellhole where they need a programmer who knows the whackdoodle library is important geographically. That, and finding someone willing to work for $20/hr.

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                    • S stoneyowl2

                      Mine is all side effects of NASH - Non-alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver. Build up of ammonia in the brain causes some really weird effects :((

                      Thar's only two possibilities: Thar is life out there in the universe which is smarter than we are, or we're the most intelligent life in the universe. Either way, it's a mighty sobering thought. (Porkypine - via Walt Kelly)

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                      Mycroft Holmes
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                      Ah crap, sympathy to you both, my retirement was voluntary thank the Great Ghu.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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