HP - stop drinking the juice that Microsoft made for you
-
I agree, but this is for SHMBO. :) I have my eye on a laser for my office. We don't do that much heavy printing.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
charlieg wrote:
I have my eye on a laser for my office.
Just be sure not to look into the laser with your remaining eye!
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
-
OriginalGriff wrote:
unlike inkjets that dry up and have to be "persuaded" to print if you leave them for a couple of months.
Ahhh, it's not just me then. I very seldom print anything, but when I do need to: Nope! New cartridges needed. Very annoying - and, yes, it works out being very expensive at two ink cartridges for every 2-3 A4 sheets that I print. Are there no "tricks of the trade" to bring dried up ink cartridges back to life?
What really got my back up was when I wanted to scan a document ... and it wouldn't scan because it didn't like an ink cartridge ... :mad:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
-
Oh yes, it appears HP is pulling as big boners as Microsoft. So, Saturday, my wife's OfficeJet died. It was a faithful servant for over 10+ years, so we got our money's worth. Daughter needs to print homework, and I find out my faithful Samsung wireless printer (10+ years) has died as well. Hmmm. FWIW, now is not a good time for one to need a printer. Most of the shelves are empty, and I think what is left is questionable. The first replacement HP turned on, flashed all of it's lights like crazy, turned off and that was it - dead. The next HP came from Amazon. It's paper tray was incorrectly assembled - it won't take 8.5x11 paper. Good QC HP. That's going back as soon as we get the return label printed. Third printer I find at a local office supply. And here begins my rant. HP now requires an online account associated with the specific printer so that they can help me monitor my printers. It's all up in the cloud somewhere. This is before they will allow me to install drivers or do anything else. Whatever happened to just installing the drivers and moving on with life? :doh:
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
My dad has a couple really nice HPs a few years old, probably right at the beginning of this 'trend.' He wanted to scan from one of them, and I had to figure it out. Of course, its '192.168.1.X' page has a 'scan' button on it. But if you press it, it requires you to create an account to continue! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: X| X| X| But I could get it to successfully scan by using the Windows 'Scan' program without any account! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Morons. And Idiots. That is what the people forcing those policies are.
The Science of King David's Court | Object Oriented Programming with C++
-
Oh yes, it appears HP is pulling as big boners as Microsoft. So, Saturday, my wife's OfficeJet died. It was a faithful servant for over 10+ years, so we got our money's worth. Daughter needs to print homework, and I find out my faithful Samsung wireless printer (10+ years) has died as well. Hmmm. FWIW, now is not a good time for one to need a printer. Most of the shelves are empty, and I think what is left is questionable. The first replacement HP turned on, flashed all of it's lights like crazy, turned off and that was it - dead. The next HP came from Amazon. It's paper tray was incorrectly assembled - it won't take 8.5x11 paper. Good QC HP. That's going back as soon as we get the return label printed. Third printer I find at a local office supply. And here begins my rant. HP now requires an online account associated with the specific printer so that they can help me monitor my printers. It's all up in the cloud somewhere. This is before they will allow me to install drivers or do anything else. Whatever happened to just installing the drivers and moving on with life? :doh:
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Get a Brother laser printer. They always work, and work well. Not a single problem since the day we started getting them. I own a MFC9340CDW, ugly as hell but it is a wonderful printer, it starts reasonably fast, it has WIFI and LAN connections, it can scan double sides automatically, and it can send FAXES!!!! I left the best for the end... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: But seriously, unless you need a super special printer, the "brother" robustness makes it a no brainer to me. Hope this helps.
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
-
Cancel the order, get a Laser. You plug it in, you print, you turn it off. It just works, unlike inkjets that dry up and have to be "persuaded" to print if you leave them for a couple of months. And the toner may be expensive, but ... a full set of compatible toners (CMYK) lasts ~1500 pages and the last set cost me £50.48 from Amazon. Which is a load less than I used to pay for inkjets once I figure in the full-but-dried-up cartridges I threw away! :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
-
Get a Brother laser printer. They always work, and work well. Not a single problem since the day we started getting them. I own a MFC9340CDW, ugly as hell but it is a wonderful printer, it starts reasonably fast, it has WIFI and LAN connections, it can scan double sides automatically, and it can send FAXES!!!! I left the best for the end... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: But seriously, unless you need a super special printer, the "brother" robustness makes it a no brainer to me. Hope this helps.
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
It does. I had my basic laser for 10+ years. :( sniff. What's shocking to me is how HP Marketing is making this effort to tie people into the elephanting over priced cartridges. I can understand that, but I need a cloud account, and I need to vote out of my printing habits? Jesus, I'll fold my own laundry thank you. The best part is the "terms may change without notification." Yeah, there's a legal contract. I refuse to be a lemming.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
-
How large can I print my photographs with one?
Mine goes up to A4 - but you can get A3 (and possibly larger) if you don't mind paying a lot more for it.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
-
Mine goes up to A4 - but you can get A3 (and possibly larger) if you don't mind paying a lot more for it.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I do mind. My current ink jet does A3 and I'm using it for 11"x17" prints.
-
Oh yes, it appears HP is pulling as big boners as Microsoft. So, Saturday, my wife's OfficeJet died. It was a faithful servant for over 10+ years, so we got our money's worth. Daughter needs to print homework, and I find out my faithful Samsung wireless printer (10+ years) has died as well. Hmmm. FWIW, now is not a good time for one to need a printer. Most of the shelves are empty, and I think what is left is questionable. The first replacement HP turned on, flashed all of it's lights like crazy, turned off and that was it - dead. The next HP came from Amazon. It's paper tray was incorrectly assembled - it won't take 8.5x11 paper. Good QC HP. That's going back as soon as we get the return label printed. Third printer I find at a local office supply. And here begins my rant. HP now requires an online account associated with the specific printer so that they can help me monitor my printers. It's all up in the cloud somewhere. This is before they will allow me to install drivers or do anything else. Whatever happened to just installing the drivers and moving on with life? :doh:
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I can also attest to laser printers. We bought one 4 years ago, and just replaced the provided toner cartridges about a month ago. We don’t print much, and this majorly saves money. It also has flatbed and feed scanners.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
-
Nor do I - that's why I got a laser. I may have six months of no printing, maybe a year. Or a week - it's at Herself's demand (she's something of a Luddite). And every damn time I turned on the injket, it would need a cartridge, or a clean, or a nozzle check, or ... Every. Damn. Time. And that wastes my time, my paper, my ink. The laser? It sits in a corner with a cover over it (to keep the cat out more than anything) and I plug it in, print, and unplug it. It's really that easy. The toner that came with it lasted me a year or two, and that's with printing the Christmas cards two Decembers! Just remember: inkjet - and laser - printers are there to sell consumables. With HP, you get what? 120 sheets per cartridge? And that's £13 or so each. Lasers may seem more expensive, but they save money in the long run!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Here here, well said! I have an HP Color Laserjet Pro MFP M477fdw which cost around £300 5 years ago, it prints, copies, scans (would fax too I think) and using 3rd party cartridges it costs peanuts to run. As Griff says, no more scrapped ink cartridges because you haven't printed for a few weeks. Honestly, over 5 years (and it's still working perfectly) it's cost way less than previous ink jet printers and much less hassle.
-
Oh yes, it appears HP is pulling as big boners as Microsoft. So, Saturday, my wife's OfficeJet died. It was a faithful servant for over 10+ years, so we got our money's worth. Daughter needs to print homework, and I find out my faithful Samsung wireless printer (10+ years) has died as well. Hmmm. FWIW, now is not a good time for one to need a printer. Most of the shelves are empty, and I think what is left is questionable. The first replacement HP turned on, flashed all of it's lights like crazy, turned off and that was it - dead. The next HP came from Amazon. It's paper tray was incorrectly assembled - it won't take 8.5x11 paper. Good QC HP. That's going back as soon as we get the return label printed. Third printer I find at a local office supply. And here begins my rant. HP now requires an online account associated with the specific printer so that they can help me monitor my printers. It's all up in the cloud somewhere. This is before they will allow me to install drivers or do anything else. Whatever happened to just installing the drivers and moving on with life? :doh:
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
charlieg wrote:
as soon as we get the return label printed
Classic. People in returns dept are probably twiddling their thumbs, pleased no-one ever sends them anything. (Like the time, long ago, I had to install the drivers for a new CD drive. That was fine; they came on a CD.) Re ink vs laser; I've had a Brother inkjet (multi-function) for about 10 years, very "patchy" load on printing, and never had the "ink drying up" issue. What I have had is a useful scanner and fax machine reduced to junk by Microsoft updating driver requirements - even in "minor upgrades" to Win10 - so that if I want to scan something I now have to fire up a VMWare box running XP and then fight VMWares/Windows networking complexities to try and get the resulting scan somewhere useful. Oh, and I can't remotely monitor ink levels any more, again due to software incompatibilities introduced without my say-so by Microsoft.
-
charlieg wrote:
as soon as we get the return label printed
Classic. People in returns dept are probably twiddling their thumbs, pleased no-one ever sends them anything. (Like the time, long ago, I had to install the drivers for a new CD drive. That was fine; they came on a CD.) Re ink vs laser; I've had a Brother inkjet (multi-function) for about 10 years, very "patchy" load on printing, and never had the "ink drying up" issue. What I have had is a useful scanner and fax machine reduced to junk by Microsoft updating driver requirements - even in "minor upgrades" to Win10 - so that if I want to scan something I now have to fire up a VMWare box running XP and then fight VMWares/Windows networking complexities to try and get the resulting scan somewhere useful. Oh, and I can't remotely monitor ink levels any more, again due to software incompatibilities introduced without my say-so by Microsoft.
I have not been able to get VMWare to get through my wifi to the internet. I changed to VirtualBox and succeeded.
-
charlieg wrote:
HP now requires an online account associated with the specific printer so that they can help me monitor my printers.
Yup, my friend returned her printer because of this level of invasion. She didn't want her ink cartridges monitored (and god knows what else) and new ones automatically sent to her, along with whatever other invasion of the corporate computer snatchers is going on. This trend is really pathetic. And on top of it, what if I don't have an Internet connection? What if I want to print my version of Walden's Pond from my solar run computer system in the middle of the woods that is air gapped by a good 50 miles from any connection and no SkyNet satellite dish? Eh?
Latest Articles:
DivWindow: Size, drag, minimize, and maximize floating windows with layout persistenceThey simply won't let you print then. Big companies these days... Sheez... I heard that Windows 11 requires mandatory Microsoft account now. If you don't have active internet connection, then you can't install OS.
