is it possible to configure Windows 10 to do this?
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to be specific: I have bought real-time data service from a data vendor already.
diligent hands rule....
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Well whatever you do you are still running Windows, which is not a real-time operating system.
"Real time" is also used by salesmen when they mean "really fast" or "really, really fast". Warcraft simulates being realtime quite nice, but even there we have unexpected disconnects and lag. I prefer terms as fps, throughput, latency and uptime. Doesn't sound like he needs visualization, so it's probably being stored in a realtime-database ;P
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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You might want to clarify your definition of "real time". For some of us that means within a few microseconds. For others it means within a few milliseconds. IMHO when you include the terms "fetch data" and "internet" then "real time" is not even approachable. Just sayin'
I find a intersesting thread on this .
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"Real time" is also used by salesmen when they mean "really fast" or "really, really fast". Warcraft simulates being realtime quite nice, but even there we have unexpected disconnects and lag. I prefer terms as fps, throughput, latency and uptime. Doesn't sound like he needs visualization, so it's probably being stored in a realtime-database ;P
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
here is a similar discussion to my question: Trying to get the most barebone Windows 10...
diligent hands rule....
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here is a similar discussion to my question: Trying to get the most barebone Windows 10...
diligent hands rule....
Should I point to a similar post to my answer? :laugh: If you want a Windows-environment to simply run software, then kiosk mode should work as already pointed out. Dunno if still applies, but might wanna check if you can RDP into those. If you're asking if there's a bare-bone version of Win10, then the answer is, well, kind of[^]? If you need the raw power, you'd use Linux. If you need to be technically realtime, you use a realtime OS like QNX.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I need to run a C++ application to fetch data from Internet for real time financial data stream. I want to configure a Windows 10 machine with minimum system service running, this machine is dedicated to run this application. any ideas to share?
diligent hands rule....
As others have indicated, you are probably on the wrong approach, although it will be an interesting experience for you. 1) Windows is not a real-time operating system, no matter how you try to finagle it, whether that is through the long-term servicing branch or the kiosk system. You will never get rid of all the other preemptive multitasking timeslices taken up by other processes. You may be able to reduce them, but never eliminate them. 2) Ping the website of the data broker you are dealing with for your 'real-time' results. You have already lost that amount of time compared to traders at the broker's end. Here's an old article on high-speed trading: [Stock Traders Find Speed Pays, in Milliseconds](https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/business/24trading.html). I cannot find it now, but I once read an article that said serious players put their data centers as close as possible to the shore (or incoming position) where the (trunk lines?) that pull the stock market information from overseas, because the microseconds compared to those further in made a difference. 3) As long as you are dealing with an internet connection from an Internet Provider, that routes your traffic from another IP, you will never compete with those traders who have dedicated themselves to the incoming, and main feeds of the various markets. 4) If your computer's clock speed is orders of magnitude faster than your internet speed, making your system a real-time operating system to capture packets as they come in is a waste of time. In spite of these issues, have fun with your endeavor!
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As others have indicated, you are probably on the wrong approach, although it will be an interesting experience for you. 1) Windows is not a real-time operating system, no matter how you try to finagle it, whether that is through the long-term servicing branch or the kiosk system. You will never get rid of all the other preemptive multitasking timeslices taken up by other processes. You may be able to reduce them, but never eliminate them. 2) Ping the website of the data broker you are dealing with for your 'real-time' results. You have already lost that amount of time compared to traders at the broker's end. Here's an old article on high-speed trading: [Stock Traders Find Speed Pays, in Milliseconds](https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/business/24trading.html). I cannot find it now, but I once read an article that said serious players put their data centers as close as possible to the shore (or incoming position) where the (trunk lines?) that pull the stock market information from overseas, because the microseconds compared to those further in made a difference. 3) As long as you are dealing with an internet connection from an Internet Provider, that routes your traffic from another IP, you will never compete with those traders who have dedicated themselves to the incoming, and main feeds of the various markets. 4) If your computer's clock speed is orders of magnitude faster than your internet speed, making your system a real-time operating system to capture packets as they come in is a waste of time. In spite of these issues, have fun with your endeavor!
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Relating to 2) I am pretty sure I read somewhere that to prevent unfair competition some of those brokers have their connection speed deliberately slowed down.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Relating to 2) I am pretty sure I read somewhere that to prevent unfair competition some of those brokers have their connection speed deliberately slowed down.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Here's one google result: [A NYSE Speed Bump You Weren’t Aware Of | IEX](https://iextrading.com/about/press/op-ed/)
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I need to run a C++ application to fetch data from Internet for real time financial data stream. I want to configure a Windows 10 machine with minimum system service running, this machine is dedicated to run this application. any ideas to share?
diligent hands rule....
For starters, you could go with Windows Core Server. As no stuff running as possible. Well, there's still the Nano Server, but it's so minimalistic, it can't even run on real hardware being a container-only OS.
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the intention is: to tear down unimportant windows service to save more CPU power to serve my application
diligent hands rule....
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I need to run a C++ application to fetch data from Internet for real time financial data stream. I want to configure a Windows 10 machine with minimum system service running, this machine is dedicated to run this application. any ideas to share?
diligent hands rule....
Here's an idea: don't do that. If you want a minimalistic system to fetch real-time data streams, don't use a developer and consumer oriented OS. In my professional opinion, it's not worth the effort, specifically due to security constraints. If you want to go down that path regardless, perhaps because you already have an extensive security infrastructure in place that relies on provisioning updates to Windows-based machines, use Windows IoT and don't strip anything update, internet or security related. If the previous iterations of Windows Embedded are anything to go by, it will still be a large amount of work for no tangible gains. Just use Linux instead.
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You might want to clarify your definition of "real time". For some of us that means within a few microseconds. For others it means within a few milliseconds. IMHO when you include the terms "fetch data" and "internet" then "real time" is not even approachable. Just sayin'
Real-time in manager-speak translates to roughly 10 seconds actual. ;P
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Relating to 2) I am pretty sure I read somewhere that to prevent unfair competition some of those brokers have their connection speed deliberately slowed down.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
That's true, but one thing is they should and other thing is they do...
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I need to run a C++ application to fetch data from Internet for real time financial data stream. I want to configure a Windows 10 machine with minimum system service running, this machine is dedicated to run this application. any ideas to share?
diligent hands rule....
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Real-time in manager-speak translates to roughly 10 seconds actual. ;P
for me, 5ms is good enough to cycle through my list to refresh data...
diligent hands rule....
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As others have indicated, you are probably on the wrong approach, although it will be an interesting experience for you. 1) Windows is not a real-time operating system, no matter how you try to finagle it, whether that is through the long-term servicing branch or the kiosk system. You will never get rid of all the other preemptive multitasking timeslices taken up by other processes. You may be able to reduce them, but never eliminate them. 2) Ping the website of the data broker you are dealing with for your 'real-time' results. You have already lost that amount of time compared to traders at the broker's end. Here's an old article on high-speed trading: [Stock Traders Find Speed Pays, in Milliseconds](https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/business/24trading.html). I cannot find it now, but I once read an article that said serious players put their data centers as close as possible to the shore (or incoming position) where the (trunk lines?) that pull the stock market information from overseas, because the microseconds compared to those further in made a difference. 3) As long as you are dealing with an internet connection from an Internet Provider, that routes your traffic from another IP, you will never compete with those traders who have dedicated themselves to the incoming, and main feeds of the various markets. 4) If your computer's clock speed is orders of magnitude faster than your internet speed, making your system a real-time operating system to capture packets as they come in is a waste of time. In spite of these issues, have fun with your endeavor!
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your link is great:)
diligent hands rule....
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For starters, you could go with Windows Core Server. As no stuff running as possible. Well, there's still the Nano Server, but it's so minimalistic, it can't even run on real hardware being a container-only OS.
I will check out Windows CORE server. thanks for the input!
diligent hands rule....
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As others have indicated, you are probably on the wrong approach, although it will be an interesting experience for you. 1) Windows is not a real-time operating system, no matter how you try to finagle it, whether that is through the long-term servicing branch or the kiosk system. You will never get rid of all the other preemptive multitasking timeslices taken up by other processes. You may be able to reduce them, but never eliminate them. 2) Ping the website of the data broker you are dealing with for your 'real-time' results. You have already lost that amount of time compared to traders at the broker's end. Here's an old article on high-speed trading: [Stock Traders Find Speed Pays, in Milliseconds](https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/business/24trading.html). I cannot find it now, but I once read an article that said serious players put their data centers as close as possible to the shore (or incoming position) where the (trunk lines?) that pull the stock market information from overseas, because the microseconds compared to those further in made a difference. 3) As long as you are dealing with an internet connection from an Internet Provider, that routes your traffic from another IP, you will never compete with those traders who have dedicated themselves to the incoming, and main feeds of the various markets. 4) If your computer's clock speed is orders of magnitude faster than your internet speed, making your system a real-time operating system to capture packets as they come in is a waste of time. In spite of these issues, have fun with your endeavor!
The Science of King David's Court | Object Oriented Programming with C++
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I need to run a C++ application to fetch data from Internet for real time financial data stream. I want to configure a Windows 10 machine with minimum system service running, this machine is dedicated to run this application. any ideas to share?
diligent hands rule....
Windows in Kiosk Mode. By all means run some tests to see if the response time is adequate for your use case.
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Windows in Kiosk Mode. By all means run some tests to see if the response time is adequate for your use case.
it is great idea to run some testing: I plan to use a machine with i7 8th CPU with 4-core to see how fast it is...
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