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  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

    Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    RGB LED Control App?

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      That's because they are too lazy to break each card into its own driver package. Uungh!

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      Rick York
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      I don't think it's a matter of being lazy. I can't imagine trying to support packages unique to each card and OS version and then dealing with irate customers who don't know what video card they have or what OS version they are running. I would guess a driver package for a specific card model or generation of cards and OS version would be between 10 and 20% of what they have but the support requirements would be the inverse of that - 5 to 10 times more.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        dandy72
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        Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

        What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

        Easy: non-driver stuff.

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          Peter_in_2780
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          All those pre-rendered bitmaps to make it look good on benchmarks?

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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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            • R Rick York

              I don't think it's a matter of being lazy. I can't imagine trying to support packages unique to each card and OS version and then dealing with irate customers who don't know what video card they have or what OS version they are running. I would guess a driver package for a specific card model or generation of cards and OS version would be between 10 and 20% of what they have but the support requirements would be the inverse of that - 5 to 10 times more.

              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              Richard Deeming
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              Rick York wrote:

              irate customers who don't know what video card they have or what OS version they are running

              The "GeForce Experience" app, which you are required to use to install the drivers, knows which card and OS you have.


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              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                Rick York wrote:

                irate customers who don't know what video card they have or what OS version they are running

                The "GeForce Experience" app, which you are required to use to install the drivers, knows which card and OS you have.


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                Rick York
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                No, that is not required. I installed the latest version just last night and it is optional. You are right though, the type of customer who doesn't know those things should and likely will install that.

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                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                  Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                  trønderen
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                  Did you check how large the installed binary drivers are on your specific machine? GeForce may have a record breaking InstallerSize/BinaryDriverSize ratio, but I've seen some really bad cases in other software as well. As others have pointed out, default installation options may include applications that you don't really need. You may uncheck the option, or you may delete the applications any time after installation. Usually, a plain application can be deleted with no consequences for other software, and if you find out it really was needed, most installers can do a repair / reinstall task to get it back. Note: I am talking about Windows! On a *nix system, you should be extremely careful! Never trust that because you never touch some application or tool, you can delete it. You can be 99% sure that even if you never use, say, a scripting language, so you want to free up disk space by deleting its interpreter. Half a year later, some different installer crashes badly with a cryptic error message because it "knows" (erroneously) that the interpreter is present. It probably was included in your *nix distro, and no one would be so crazy that they remove any part of the distro, would they? So, I have learned the hard way: Never ever try to "clean up" your *nix installation, especially regarding software development tools. Limit cleanups to you private data files, and leave the rest untouched!

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                    Did you check how large the installed binary drivers are on your specific machine? GeForce may have a record breaking InstallerSize/BinaryDriverSize ratio, but I've seen some really bad cases in other software as well. As others have pointed out, default installation options may include applications that you don't really need. You may uncheck the option, or you may delete the applications any time after installation. Usually, a plain application can be deleted with no consequences for other software, and if you find out it really was needed, most installers can do a repair / reinstall task to get it back. Note: I am talking about Windows! On a *nix system, you should be extremely careful! Never trust that because you never touch some application or tool, you can delete it. You can be 99% sure that even if you never use, say, a scripting language, so you want to free up disk space by deleting its interpreter. Half a year later, some different installer crashes badly with a cryptic error message because it "knows" (erroneously) that the interpreter is present. It probably was included in your *nix distro, and no one would be so crazy that they remove any part of the distro, would they? So, I have learned the hard way: Never ever try to "clean up" your *nix installation, especially regarding software development tools. Limit cleanups to you private data files, and leave the rest untouched!

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                    trønderen wrote:

                    eally bad cases in other software as well

                    *cough* Adobe *cough* Printer drivers *cough cough*

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                    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                      Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      ATI Catalyst back in the 200x's were 130 MB so...

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                      • R Rick York

                        No, that is not required. I installed the latest version just last night and it is optional. You are right though, the type of customer who doesn't know those things should and likely will install that.

                        "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                        vKaras
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                        yeha.. thats good! I think the "expirience" app is total bullshit.. like messing up my carefully finetuned ingame graphic settings, because.. it knows better... and not even telling.. me about it.

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                        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                          Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

                          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                          milo xml
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                          They probably include optimizations for each game, well, at least the ones that pay them to do that.

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                          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                            Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

                            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                            Member 9167057
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                            GeForce Experience, feel free to uninstall it if you don't need it (I like it's video recording capability).

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                            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                              Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

                              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                              Stuart Dootson
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                              They've based it on [Electron](https://www.electronjs.org/) so it's cross-platform...

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                              • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

                                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                ElectronProgrammer
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                                Maybe the graphics card is a dummy and they do everything via software?!

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                                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                  Display driver?!! That's the latest Game Ready GeForce driver package! What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?

                                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                  SeattleC
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                                  Plus there's the whole manycore parallel supercomputer thing. Might take a few megabytes for that.

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