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    Chris Maunder
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    I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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    2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

    Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    • C Chris Maunder

      I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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      2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

      Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee

      Don't even think those word together as a sentence! :~

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      • C Chris Maunder

        I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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        2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

        Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        short and stout?

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          I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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          2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

          Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          Richard Deeming
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          Pfffft! Call me when it finally implements RFC1149 - or preferably RFC2549. :-D


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          • C Chris Maunder

            I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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            2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

            Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Just as long as the browser doesn't start playing I'm A Little Teapot - The Countdown Kids | Kids Songs & Nursery Rhymes - YouTube[^].

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              Just as long as the browser doesn't start playing I'm A Little Teapot - The Countdown Kids | Kids Songs & Nursery Rhymes - YouTube[^].

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              Actually, that would be AWESOME!

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              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                Pfffft! Call me when it finally implements RFC1149 - or preferably RFC2549. :-D


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                Daniel Pfeffer
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                That's Level 1 of the OSI levels. HTTP is what, level 4?

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                  That's Level 1 of the OSI levels. HTTP is what, level 4?

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                  Certainly more like Presentation (6) or Application (7). The encoding - the specific use of angle brackets, character entities and that sort of stuff - is a Presentation issue. That is how to represent an abstract information structure that might equally be represented in other ways (such as a DOM tree). The syntax and semantics of that abstract part of HTML belongs in Application. Even though many people (usually with rather shallow knowledge of the OSI model - but that covers 95+ % of all software developers today) try to place various elements of IP based protocols into one single OSI layer, it usually can't be done properly, as seen from an ISO model point of view. In plain words: IP protocols are a mess in regard to clean layering.

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                  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                    Pfffft! Call me when it finally implements RFC1149 - or preferably RFC2549. :-D


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                    Note that RFC 1149 was implemented twenty years ago. See Bergen Linux User Group[^]

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                      Certainly more like Presentation (6) or Application (7). The encoding - the specific use of angle brackets, character entities and that sort of stuff - is a Presentation issue. That is how to represent an abstract information structure that might equally be represented in other ways (such as a DOM tree). The syntax and semantics of that abstract part of HTML belongs in Application. Even though many people (usually with rather shallow knowledge of the OSI model - but that covers 95+ % of all software developers today) try to place various elements of IP based protocols into one single OSI layer, it usually can't be done properly, as seen from an ISO model point of view. In plain words: IP protocols are a mess in regard to clean layering.

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                      Which do you mean, OSI or ISO?

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                        Which do you mean, OSI or ISO?

                        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                        I'm fairly sure he means the OSI model[^].

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                        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                          Which do you mean, OSI or ISO?

                          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                          OSI is a standard family from ISO (in cooperation with ITU-T), so I guess the answer is: Both.

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                          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                            Pfffft! Call me when it finally implements RFC1149 - or preferably RFC2549. :-D


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                            Linketies: rfc1149[^] and rfc2549[^]

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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                              2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

                              Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              I got all excited. I thought you were talking about a container for the Tiny Encryption Algorithm (TEA)[^], which I've used a number of times.

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                                Certainly more like Presentation (6) or Application (7). The encoding - the specific use of angle brackets, character entities and that sort of stuff - is a Presentation issue. That is how to represent an abstract information structure that might equally be represented in other ways (such as a DOM tree). The syntax and semantics of that abstract part of HTML belongs in Application. Even though many people (usually with rather shallow knowledge of the OSI model - but that covers 95+ % of all software developers today) try to place various elements of IP based protocols into one single OSI layer, it usually can't be done properly, as seen from an ISO model point of view. In plain words: IP protocols are a mess in regard to clean layering.

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                                Cpichols
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                                Having been out of the developer world through the era when HTCPC was created, I am made very curious: was this created to illustrate the OSI model? Thanks for the lessons; I've always believed that shared development relied entirely on communication of purpose and methods. There is nothing so satisfyingly helpful as a well-made requirements doc.

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                                  Having been out of the developer world through the era when HTCPC was created, I am made very curious: was this created to illustrate the OSI model? Thanks for the lessons; I've always believed that shared development relied entirely on communication of purpose and methods. There is nothing so satisfyingly helpful as a well-made requirements doc.

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                                  trønderen
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                                  I'm afraid that you can forget any hope of learning anything from OSI. It was thrown away, all its qualities were ditched. OSI is just for old time dreamers fantasising about how the world could have been. If the world wasn't different, of course ...

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                                    I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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                                    2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

                                    Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Stuart Dootson
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                                    Reminds me of one of the clauses from [RFC1122 (Requirements for Internet Hosts - Communication Layers)](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1122) - that said software should be "Able to leap tall buildings at a single bound". We found that when it was copied verbatim into an early draft of requirements for avionics compatible Ethernet (including UDP, TCP and IP layers)... Needless to say, it was swiftly removed! PS - I hope you're [*this* teapot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah\_teapot)...

                                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                      I'm afraid that you can forget any hope of learning anything from OSI. It was thrown away, all its qualities were ditched. OSI is just for old time dreamers fantasising about how the world could have been. If the world wasn't different, of course ...

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                                      Cpichols
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                                      How sad.

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                                        I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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                                        2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

                                        Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Steve Naidamast
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                                        I don't care... I get my coffee every morning at a local eatery... :)

                                        Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          I'm happy to announce that the http module in Python 3.9 [now includes](https://bugs.python.org/issue39507) the HTTP 418 "I'm a Teapot" code. For those wondering what I'm talking about, see [RFC 7168: The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances (HTCPCP-TEA)](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7168#section-2.3.3)

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                                          2.3.3. 418 I'm a Teapot TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.

                                          Yeah, it's going to be one of those weeks.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          This is steeped in controversy.

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