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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    It's a fact - the US is the only developed country without a public health service, and it's medical costs are ridiculous as a result, because they charge what the insurance companies will pay. And they just put the premiums up to cover it. Just the ambulance cost apparently averages out $100 per mile! :omg: I really don't understand why Americans seem to think it's a good system, when the rest of the world takes care of the health needs of all citizens rather than just the richer ones.

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    I completely agree. I am just surprised by your statement here at this place (because of, you know that sentence in the top of this forum...).

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      I completely agree. I am just surprised by your statement here at this place (because of, you know that sentence in the top of this forum...).

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      Hmmm. I hadn't thought of that. Do you think it counts as trolling or political? It wasn't intended that way ...

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      • S Southmountain

        recently I am fed up with my fulltime job and want to retire soon. so I start to think about one question: how to buy a good medical insurance personally? I have UNH now.

        diligent hands rule....

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        fgs1963
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        Move to a country where the government provides your insurance (or healthcare) and taxes you accordingly - there are many. Every developed country except the US in fact ... Remember - this is the same government that screws up every other facet of your life that they touch.

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        • F fgs1963

          Move to a country where the government provides your insurance (or healthcare) and taxes you accordingly - there are many. Every developed country except the US in fact ... Remember - this is the same government that screws up every other facet of your life that they touch.

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          OriginalGriff
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          That is the function of all governments, it seems ... :sigh:

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Hmmm. I hadn't thought of that. Do you think it counts as trolling or political? It wasn't intended that way ...

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            Yes, I think so. Something like 'political' or especally 'whatever' "Trolling, (political, climate, religious or whatever) will result in your account being removed"

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              Yes, I think so. Something like 'political' or especally 'whatever' "Trolling, (political, climate, religious or whatever) will result in your account being removed"

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              Content removed.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Content removed.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                fgs1963
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                No need to do that, Griff. Mine is staying unless management removes it. :elephant:'em if they can't take a joke and joke'em them if they can't take a :elephant:!

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                  No need to do that, Griff. Mine is staying unless management removes it. :elephant:'em if they can't take a joke and joke'em them if they can't take a :elephant:!

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                  I think it is pretty ok to remove it. Any low rep will be removed from the forum for something like that!

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Content removed.

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                    :thumbsup: The objective statement which is still there explains neutral and is very ok (I mean this one: The Lounge[^] ) ;)

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                    • S Southmountain

                      recently I am fed up with my fulltime job and want to retire soon. so I start to think about one question: how to buy a good medical insurance personally? I have UNH now.

                      diligent hands rule....

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      Go to the medical marketplace (www.healthcare.gov). Consider contacting an application counselor. The one I used last year was excellent. My oldest daughter, in another state, has an excellent broker, so ask around.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        It's a fact - the US is the only developed country without a public health service, and it's medical costs are ridiculous as a result, because they charge what the insurance companies will pay. And they just put the premiums up to cover it. Just the ambulance cost apparently averages out $100 per mile! :omg: I really don't understand why Americans seem to think it's a good system, when the rest of the world takes care of the health needs of all citizens rather than just the richer ones.

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        The US has public medical care, but primarily for seniors (Medicare), the poor (Medicaid), and veterans (VA hospitals). But the costs have reached the point where medical tourism is now becoming a thing: Americans traveling abroad for non-urgent care. There are a number of countries (Mexico, Panama, Thailand, India, and others) where private clinics charge a third of what you'd pay in the US but where care is just as good (with doctors often trained in the US). Medical care in those countries is predominantly private, so not having a public system can't explain US costs. Some of the major factors are very high malpractice insurance (a legal system run amok), the physicians' guild (routine things that only doctors are allowed to do), and medical insurance being a non-taxable benefit for employees but a tax deduction for employers (which encourages no one to try to control prices), and care not being rationed by wait times (I've been waiting over two months to book an appointment with a specialist in Canada, and having lived in the US, I'd still take their flawed system hands down).

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          It's a fact - the US is the only developed country without a public health service, and it's medical costs are ridiculous as a result, because they charge what the insurance companies will pay. And they just put the premiums up to cover it. Just the ambulance cost apparently averages out $100 per mile! :omg: I really don't understand why Americans seem to think it's a good system, when the rest of the world takes care of the health needs of all citizens rather than just the richer ones.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          obermd
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                          All health care is rationed. In the US it's rationed by price (note I didn't say market). In every other western country it's rationed by a board that decides who gets care, especially in life threatening situations.

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                          • J jeron1

                            Southmountain wrote:

                            I have UNH now.

                            If you like them, give them a call and see if they'll give you a quote for a policy that's similar to what you have now.

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                            Southmountain
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                            it is easy to call, but I doubt their service people understand my question.

                            diligent hands rule....

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              [Removed by me as it may be considered as trolling] It wasn't intended that way, so ... it's gone.

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                              Southmountain
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                              from OG's input, now I know it is absurd question...

                              diligent hands rule....

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                              • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                                The US has public medical care, but primarily for seniors (Medicare), the poor (Medicaid), and veterans (VA hospitals). But the costs have reached the point where medical tourism is now becoming a thing: Americans traveling abroad for non-urgent care. There are a number of countries (Mexico, Panama, Thailand, India, and others) where private clinics charge a third of what you'd pay in the US but where care is just as good (with doctors often trained in the US). Medical care in those countries is predominantly private, so not having a public system can't explain US costs. Some of the major factors are very high malpractice insurance (a legal system run amok), the physicians' guild (routine things that only doctors are allowed to do), and medical insurance being a non-taxable benefit for employees but a tax deduction for employers (which encourages no one to try to control prices), and care not being rationed by wait times (I've been waiting over two months to book an appointment with a specialist in Canada, and having lived in the US, I'd still take their flawed system hands down).

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                                Southmountain
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                                it seems like I can only buy private medical insurance now.

                                diligent hands rule....

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                                  Go to the medical marketplace (www.healthcare.gov). Consider contacting an application counselor. The one I used last year was excellent. My oldest daughter, in another state, has an excellent broker, so ask around.

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                                  Southmountain
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                                  this is affordable act...

                                  diligent hands rule....

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                                  • S Southmountain

                                    it seems like I can only buy private medical insurance now.

                                    diligent hands rule....

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                                    Probably so, if you don't fall into the categories that I mentioned and don't work for a company that provides medical insurance as a benefit. When I lived in the US, I chose insurance with a fairly high deductible ($12K), but I don't know if that's still possible under this Obamacare nonsense.

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                                    • S Southmountain

                                      recently I am fed up with my fulltime job and want to retire soon. so I start to think about one question: how to buy a good medical insurance personally? I have UNH now.

                                      diligent hands rule....

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                                      Southmountain
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                                      from google I find one hopeful link. Now I have very good ideas on when to retire.

                                      diligent hands rule....

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        It's a fact - the US is the only developed country without a public health service, and it's medical costs are ridiculous as a result, because they charge what the insurance companies will pay. And they just put the premiums up to cover it. Just the ambulance cost apparently averages out $100 per mile! :omg: I really don't understand why Americans seem to think it's a good system, when the rest of the world takes care of the health needs of all citizens rather than just the richer ones.

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        I really don't understand why Americans seem to think it's a good system, when the rest of the world takes care of the health needs of all citizens rather than just the richer ones.

                                        I think most Americans agree, but the partisan divide is so great nobody can agree on a better one

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                                        • S Southmountain

                                          it is easy to call, but I doubt their service people understand my question.

                                          diligent hands rule....

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                                          jeron1
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                                          Service people no, salespeople yes.

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