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  • K Kevin Marois

    Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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    kmoorevs
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    Azure is not really something you learn, but a bunch of services/hardware that you rent from MS. I've been using Azure services since 2015 to host lob web apps for multiple clients. You may think that it's the same as a webhost but the difference is that the resources you are renting are scalable, both up and out. One type of Azure service that I am using is a Server 2016 VM hosting multiple customer lob web applications. In the beginning, we rented a total of 4 webapp (.Net btw) slots and 2 sql databases for <$100 a month. When we needed to add more apps, the decision was made to get another domain name and tie it to an Azure VM. It's handling half a dozen customer web apps nicely, and can likely double capacity before I even think about moving up a tier. It's super nice when I need to troubleshoot something for a customer...just rdc in and fix the problem. :) They used to give you a 30 day free trial. One word of advice if you decide you need anything Azure...check out the deep discounts you get for annual reservations.

    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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      It's a curse! Curse of The Azure Bonds[^] :-\

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      k5054
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      Wasn't that the name of one of the old Infocom adventure games? Right up there with [Leather Goddesses of Phobos - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather\_Goddesses\_of\_Phobos)

      Keep Calm and Carry On

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        Look, just because Noah Webster preferred the Latin root "color" to the Norman word "colour", that doesn't make our (correct) spelling any less valid. :laugh: (Maybe we should avoid the argument altogether, and just use "hew" instead?)


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        Kevin Marois
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        You say Potato, I say Potato..... oh wait..

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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        • K kmoorevs

          Azure is not really something you learn, but a bunch of services/hardware that you rent from MS. I've been using Azure services since 2015 to host lob web apps for multiple clients. You may think that it's the same as a webhost but the difference is that the resources you are renting are scalable, both up and out. One type of Azure service that I am using is a Server 2016 VM hosting multiple customer lob web applications. In the beginning, we rented a total of 4 webapp (.Net btw) slots and 2 sql databases for <$100 a month. When we needed to add more apps, the decision was made to get another domain name and tie it to an Azure VM. It's handling half a dozen customer web apps nicely, and can likely double capacity before I even think about moving up a tier. It's super nice when I need to troubleshoot something for a customer...just rdc in and fix the problem. :) They used to give you a 30 day free trial. One word of advice if you decide you need anything Azure...check out the deep discounts you get for annual reservations.

          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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          Kevin Marois
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          Thanks for the info. It's interesting you mention hosting because I'm going to be setting up a Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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          • K Kevin Marois

            Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            I think the Caribbean is azure; or is it the Mediterranean?

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Thanks for the info. It's interesting you mention hosting because I'm going to be setting up a Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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              Kevin Marois wrote:

              Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

              In that case you could use just an Azure function. Azure Functions Overview | Microsoft Docs[^] Instead of you setting up IIS, the function just works. Under the hood it might be running IIS or something else (probably IIS though) and could be running on a linux OS or windows. The point is, all you care about is that code, not the infrastructure. But you can still scale up and out as needed.

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                Kevin Marois wrote:

                Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

                In that case you could use just an Azure function. Azure Functions Overview | Microsoft Docs[^] Instead of you setting up IIS, the function just works. Under the hood it might be running IIS or something else (probably IIS though) and could be running on a linux OS or windows. The point is, all you care about is that code, not the infrastructure. But you can still scale up and out as needed.

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                Kevin Marois
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                Thanks. Good to know!

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                  jeron1
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                  Maybe this Azure FAQ Part 1[^] article is a start. There may be many others at CP as well. I think @Sander Rossel, wrote a book on Azure if my memory serves.

                  "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                    Kevin Marois wrote:

                    should I care?

                    Yes! Look at Azure (in its simplest form) as a rich collection of cloud technologies that you can easily use to enhance an existing app without having to re-invent the wheel or having to build out a large amount of server-side infrastructure.  I've been spending a lot of time (and having a lot of fun) learning the basics of function apps, cloud TTS, send grid, cloud storage (standard SQL server plus blob storage) and much more.  What blows my mind is how easy it is to get started with a specific aspect of Azure that's of interest to you.  And this doesn't even begin to touch the slew of AI related functionality (ML, sentiment analysis, image recognition, etc.) that's also available for use. I :love: Azure! /ravi

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                    • K Kevin Marois

                      Thanks for the info. It's interesting you mention hosting because I'm going to be setting up a Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                      kmoorevs
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                      Kevin Marois wrote:

                      How/why would using Azure be better?

                      If you have easy access to the client's server (for setup/maintenance/troubleshooting) such as through VPN, Azure may not be beneficial or preferable. Also, if this is a one-off or the data source is on-premise, I wouldn't consider Azure. Consider though if you wanted to offer your software as a service to other clients through your own customized domain name? Another benefit is that you are not subject to upgrade/replacement cycles of your clients. Also, it puts you in control of recurring revenue...no pay, no play. :)

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                        Same question still here. Now, have a look to the following links, and be prepared it is not a thing you will get in between 5 Min ;) Main Article: Azure Fundamentals part 1: Describe core Azure concepts (AZ-900) - Learn | Microsoft Docs[^] I suggest to start here: Introduction - Learn | Microsoft Docs[^] [Edit] Usually I hate videos, but the ones in the above links where very helpful, at least for me I hope it helps.

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                        • K kmoorevs

                          Kevin Marois wrote:

                          How/why would using Azure be better?

                          If you have easy access to the client's server (for setup/maintenance/troubleshooting) such as through VPN, Azure may not be beneficial or preferable. Also, if this is a one-off or the data source is on-premise, I wouldn't consider Azure. Consider though if you wanted to offer your software as a service to other clients through your own customized domain name? Another benefit is that you are not subject to upgrade/replacement cycles of your clients. Also, it puts you in control of recurring revenue...no pay, no play. :)

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                          Kevin Marois
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                          kmoorevs wrote:

                          If you have easy access to the client's server (for setup/maintenance/troubleshooting) such as through VPN, Azure may not be beneficial or preferable. Also, if this is a one-off or the data source is on-premise, I wouldn't consider Azure.

                          Both are true in this case

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                            Kevin Marois wrote:

                            should I care?

                            Yes! Look at Azure (in its simplest form) as a rich collection of cloud technologies that you can easily use to enhance an existing app without having to re-invent the wheel or having to build out a large amount of server-side infrastructure.  I've been spending a lot of time (and having a lot of fun) learning the basics of function apps, cloud TTS, send grid, cloud storage (standard SQL server plus blob storage) and much more.  What blows my mind is how easy it is to get started with a specific aspect of Azure that's of interest to you.  And this doesn't even begin to touch the slew of AI related functionality (ML, sentiment analysis, image recognition, etc.) that's also available for use. I :love: Azure! /ravi

                            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                            Kevin Marois
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                            Thanks!

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                              Same question still here. Now, have a look to the following links, and be prepared it is not a thing you will get in between 5 Min ;) Main Article: Azure Fundamentals part 1: Describe core Azure concepts (AZ-900) - Learn | Microsoft Docs[^] I suggest to start here: Introduction - Learn | Microsoft Docs[^] [Edit] Usually I hate videos, but the ones in the above links where very helpful, at least for me I hope it helps.

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                              Kevin Marois
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                              Thanks!

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                              • K Kevin Marois

                                Richard Deeming wrote:

                                It's the colour between cyan and blue in the visible spectrum of light.

                                How can it be serious when you spelled 'Color' as 'Colour'??? :) :) :)

                                If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                It's not my favourite way of spelling it, neighbour. Knowing how to apply grammar rules takes some labour, but I try to find some humour in it.

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                                • K kmoorevs

                                  Kevin Marois wrote:

                                  How/why would using Azure be better?

                                  If you have easy access to the client's server (for setup/maintenance/troubleshooting) such as through VPN, Azure may not be beneficial or preferable. Also, if this is a one-off or the data source is on-premise, I wouldn't consider Azure. Consider though if you wanted to offer your software as a service to other clients through your own customized domain name? Another benefit is that you are not subject to upgrade/replacement cycles of your clients. Also, it puts you in control of recurring revenue...no pay, no play. :)

                                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                                  dandy72
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                                  kmoorevs wrote:

                                  it puts you in control of recurring revenue...no pay, no play

                                  Well, Microsoft could say the same to you.

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                    Nelek
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                                    As other said... Sander Rossel wrote some books about Azure for Syncfusion Succintly PDF-Series... (you need registration though) Some messages below is the "Sound of the Week"[^] Take a look into the signature, the links are there.

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    • K Kevin Marois

                                      Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                      Azure is amongst the clouds, high up in the sky, unreachable for Windows Desktop persons like me.

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                                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                        Look, just because Noah Webster preferred the Latin root "color" to the Norman word "colour", that doesn't make our (correct) spelling any less valid. :laugh: (Maybe we should avoid the argument altogether, and just use "hew" instead?)


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                        Gary R Wheeler
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                                        Richard Deeming wrote:

                                        "hew"

                                        Not if you're going to cry about it. :rim-shot:

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          As other said... Sander Rossel wrote some books about Azure for Syncfusion Succintly PDF-Series... (you need registration though) Some messages below is the "Sound of the Week"[^] Take a look into the signature, the links are there.

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                          Sander Rossel
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                                          Thanks! :D Unfortunately, I don't think any of my books explain just what Azure is. All of them assume some Azure knowledge already. That said, the introduction to Azure Serverless Succinctly about sums it up and gives some examples of Azure services I think. The other chapters and examples should be easy to follow, but focus purely on the serverless aspect.

                                          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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