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I'm beginning to fear COVID is not going to give up...

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    5teveH
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    ... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]

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      ... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]

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      You mean a reboot of the planet earth? :laugh: Sorry for the 'laugh' :^) ....

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        ... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]

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        The weird thing is that it's not "persistence" or "cunning" at all: the sheer number of new hosts - us - means it breeds like crazy, and that means it mutates like crazy. To knock it down to the level of flu or even a cold, all we have to do is reduce the number of hosts to an absolute minimum - that's what vaccines, lockdowns, masks, handwashing is all about ... get it down to that and it mutates more slowly because it breeds more slowly and the impression of cunning vanishes.

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          The weird thing is that it's not "persistence" or "cunning" at all: the sheer number of new hosts - us - means it breeds like crazy, and that means it mutates like crazy. To knock it down to the level of flu or even a cold, all we have to do is reduce the number of hosts to an absolute minimum - that's what vaccines, lockdowns, masks, handwashing is all about ... get it down to that and it mutates more slowly because it breeds more slowly and the impression of cunning vanishes.

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          Only to emphasize again (for everybody who feels to be save because of vac): If you are vaccinated you can still be the host. Vaccination is only an -important- part of many measures that you mentioned.

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            You mean a reboot of the planet earth? :laugh: Sorry for the 'laugh' :^) ....

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            Humans: "Hey! Let's keep partying until we suck every last drop out of this planet." Mother Nature: "Last orders gentlemen." :omg:

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              Humans: "Hey! Let's keep partying until we suck every last drop out of this planet." Mother Nature: "Last orders gentlemen." :omg:

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              Mother nature will win sooner or later I think. With or without us ;)

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                Only to emphasize again (for everybody who feels to be save because of vac): If you are vaccinated you can still be the host. Vaccination is only an -important- part of many measures that you mentioned.

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                And being unvaccinated is just prolonging the disruption ... somewhat antisocial I feel.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  And being unvaccinated is just prolonging the disruption ... somewhat antisocial I feel.

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  But let's not forget that many parts of the world don't have sufficient vaccines yet. Like South Africa for instance. We are in a very privileged position - where we actually get to choose. It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline. :confused:

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                    But let's not forget that many parts of the world don't have sufficient vaccines yet. Like South Africa for instance. We are in a very privileged position - where we actually get to choose. It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline. :confused:

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                    South Africa does not have a shortage of vaccines. Only a shortage of people willing to get vaccinated.

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                      But let's not forget that many parts of the world don't have sufficient vaccines yet. Like South Africa for instance. We are in a very privileged position - where we actually get to choose. It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline. :confused:

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                      "Somewhat antisocial" were not the words going through my mind when I wrote that ... :-O

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        But let's not forget that many parts of the world don't have sufficient vaccines yet. Like South Africa for instance. We are in a very privileged position - where we actually get to choose. It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline. :confused:

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                        Agree, many parts of the world don't have vaccine supply. South Africa actually has too much, and has had to delay shipments as their vaccination deployment is slow. EXCLUSIVE South Africa delays COVID vaccine deliveries as inoculations slow | Reuters[^]

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                          ... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]

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                          Maximilien
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                          Let's hope the current vaccines are up to the task. We have, in the Québec province (like everywhere) an increase of new cases (*) , but it does not yet have an impact on new hospitalizations and deaths, but that usually comes a couple of weeks later. :( We currently have 180,000-ish kids between 5-11 already registered to get vaccinated for their first dose since the vaccine was available for them. (*) Most new cases are kids under 12 and unvaccinated adults.

                          CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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                            ... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]

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                            The longer this COVID-19 problem persists, the more I think that this was purposely created to spread rapidly and to avoid vaccines created by any of the current vaccine technologies. I do not know if this was an attempt at a bioweapon, a mad scientist's revenge, an accident or something else.

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                              ... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]

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                              Given enough time, anything is possible. In this case, it's a continuous parade of variants because it's "not real"; as per the informed, reasonable and un-vaccinated.

                              It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                Mother nature will win sooner or later I think. With or without us ;)

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                                Nelek
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                                0x01AA wrote:

                                Mother nature will win sooner or later I think. With or without us

                                Specially without us.

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Given enough time, anything is possible. In this case, it's a continuous parade of variants because it's "not real"; as per the informed, reasonable and un-vaccinated.

                                  It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                  Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                  Given enough time, anything is possible.

                                  Not sure what you were thinking when you wrote your message, but this sentence can be used in both directions and I really am not sure which one you are referring and even less sure which one will get "possible".

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    "Somewhat antisocial" were not the words going through my mind when I wrote that ... :-O

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    "Somewhat antisocial" were not the words going through my mind when I wrote that ...

                                    That's why I translated it mentally to many other more appropiated nouns and adjectives.

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      0x01AA wrote:

                                      Mother nature will win sooner or later I think. With or without us

                                      Specially without us.

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      0x01AA
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                                      Makes sense :(

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                                        The weird thing is that it's not "persistence" or "cunning" at all: the sheer number of new hosts - us - means it breeds like crazy, and that means it mutates like crazy. To knock it down to the level of flu or even a cold, all we have to do is reduce the number of hosts to an absolute minimum - that's what vaccines, lockdowns, masks, handwashing is all about ... get it down to that and it mutates more slowly because it breeds more slowly and the impression of cunning vanishes.

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                        That is what I have been telling people here at home since they declared this a pandemic last year. The higher the number of people contaminated, the higher the probability of mutations (exponential growth). And with the increase of mutations the higher the probability of getting one that is even more dangerous. And that the vaccine is not a cure, only protects the vaccinated and is not 100% effective at that. Yet, I keep seeing people without mask laughing/insulting/beating others (like me) for wearing a mask all the time on the street (I wear it because you never know if someone is around the corner). This week, an unvaccinated guy went into a store without mask and, when an employee called him to tell him that he had to wear a mask, the guy physically beat the employee who had to be transported to the hospital :omg: . This is madness. Just two hours ago, in the dinner time news, an expert in infectious diseases said they were tracking 30 new variants that are worst than the Delta variant :wtf: . If true, this will be a bleak Christmas and a poor 2022.

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                                          ... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]

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                                          That'd be bad news and good news at the same time? Good; because more Covid variations means they'll compete. Bad; it would mean Covid is the next flu. Very bad even. We are in the middle of a very aging population and a declining workforce. We'd need more inflation for that.

                                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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