I'm beginning to fear COVID is not going to give up...
-
... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]
That'd be bad news and good news at the same time? Good; because more Covid variations means they'll compete. Bad; it would mean Covid is the next flu. Very bad even. We are in the middle of a very aging population and a declining workforce. We'd need more inflation for that.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
-
That'd be bad news and good news at the same time? Good; because more Covid variations means they'll compete. Bad; it would mean Covid is the next flu. Very bad even. We are in the middle of a very aging population and a declining workforce. We'd need more inflation for that.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
-
But let's not forget that many parts of the world don't have sufficient vaccines yet. Like South Africa for instance. We are in a very privileged position - where we actually get to choose. It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline. :confused:
It's quite antisocial of you to not respect people's choices not to get vaccinated. People have many reasons not to get vaccinated, and while they may not sound so good to you, they are very valid for the people who make the decision. Some people are as afraid of the vaccin as you are of the disease. I recently got my second one, but only because I'm not feeling much for being completely shut out without a vaccination because I'm at risk of vaccinated people spreading this disease. For some reason, me being able to say "look, I have a test and it came out negative" means less (and soon even nothing) than "I'm vaccinated, but there's a good chance I have it anyway" :confused: What's more is that I'm young and healthy, not in any risk group, and almost my entire family had it without much issues. There's, what, less than 1% chance I'll end up in the hospital, maybe even something like 0.1%? I've felt bad for two days during this entire pandemic and both came from the vaccination. It's mostly old people that get sick so they tell younger people to go in lockdown, wear masks, not visit their friends and then to get vaccinated, and call them names if they're not really up for all of that. And meanwhile, most of us young people just go with it because we care about our elderly and our medical staff. If there's one thing I've learned (or verified, really) from this pandemic is that people, vaccinated or not, are a bunch of antisocial assholes. Unfortunately, there's no vaccination for that :sigh: So next time you meet an unvaccinated person, instead of calling them antisocial you could ask them about their motives and/or just shut the hell up about their decision that involves injecting chemicals into their body.
Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
-
It's quite antisocial of you to not respect people's choices not to get vaccinated. People have many reasons not to get vaccinated, and while they may not sound so good to you, they are very valid for the people who make the decision. Some people are as afraid of the vaccin as you are of the disease. I recently got my second one, but only because I'm not feeling much for being completely shut out without a vaccination because I'm at risk of vaccinated people spreading this disease. For some reason, me being able to say "look, I have a test and it came out negative" means less (and soon even nothing) than "I'm vaccinated, but there's a good chance I have it anyway" :confused: What's more is that I'm young and healthy, not in any risk group, and almost my entire family had it without much issues. There's, what, less than 1% chance I'll end up in the hospital, maybe even something like 0.1%? I've felt bad for two days during this entire pandemic and both came from the vaccination. It's mostly old people that get sick so they tell younger people to go in lockdown, wear masks, not visit their friends and then to get vaccinated, and call them names if they're not really up for all of that. And meanwhile, most of us young people just go with it because we care about our elderly and our medical staff. If there's one thing I've learned (or verified, really) from this pandemic is that people, vaccinated or not, are a bunch of antisocial assholes. Unfortunately, there's no vaccination for that :sigh: So next time you meet an unvaccinated person, instead of calling them antisocial you could ask them about their motives and/or just shut the hell up about their decision that involves injecting chemicals into their body.
Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
Please look at my original post. Do I say anything about refusing to get a jab being "anti-social"? Nope. In fact, do I say anything about vaccines? Nope. In a later post, I actually point out, that in some countries, (because of the lack of supply), people don't even have a choice. And I completely understand that the the vaccine is not viable for everyone. Whilst I may agree with the sentiments expressed about people not getting vaccinated, I am not the "anti-social" author. You need to go back up the thread a bit. I think the strongest argument for getting as many as possible vaccinated, is it reduces the 'opportunity' for mutations. We are obviously still in the dark about the threat from Omicron - and it could be it's a big panic about nothing. But in the worst case scenario, it could take us back to square one - with a virus that is highly infectious and not defeated by the current vaccines. That "what if" is both frightening and depressing and I can understand why terms like "anti-social" might be used. But, just to re-iterate: it wasn't me what did it - officer! :-)
-
Please look at my original post. Do I say anything about refusing to get a jab being "anti-social"? Nope. In fact, do I say anything about vaccines? Nope. In a later post, I actually point out, that in some countries, (because of the lack of supply), people don't even have a choice. And I completely understand that the the vaccine is not viable for everyone. Whilst I may agree with the sentiments expressed about people not getting vaccinated, I am not the "anti-social" author. You need to go back up the thread a bit. I think the strongest argument for getting as many as possible vaccinated, is it reduces the 'opportunity' for mutations. We are obviously still in the dark about the threat from Omicron - and it could be it's a big panic about nothing. But in the worst case scenario, it could take us back to square one - with a virus that is highly infectious and not defeated by the current vaccines. That "what if" is both frightening and depressing and I can understand why terms like "anti-social" might be used. But, just to re-iterate: it wasn't me what did it - officer! :-)
You said "It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline." Not sure how else I should interpret this as "those who don't vaccinate are antisocial and worse" :confused:
Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
-
You said "It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline." Not sure how else I should interpret this as "those who don't vaccinate are antisocial and worse" :confused:
Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
Yes, I did say that. But it's also absolutely clear from my original post, that having a go at people who are unvaccinated, was not my agenda. And, in hindsight, all it did was contribute to the discussion heading off on a tangent. So, maybe I shouldn't have commented - but.... ... If you object to the use of the word "antisocial", why not take it up with guy that said it? I'm confused! :confused:
-
Yes, I did say that. But it's also absolutely clear from my original post, that having a go at people who are unvaccinated, was not my agenda. And, in hindsight, all it did was contribute to the discussion heading off on a tangent. So, maybe I shouldn't have commented - but.... ... If you object to the use of the word "antisocial", why not take it up with guy that said it? I'm confused! :confused:
5teveH wrote:
But it's also absolutely clear from my original post, that having a go at people who are unvaccinated, was not my agenda.
It was clear to me you only wanted to have a go at people who are unvaccinated by choice, at least in your reply to OG, not in your original one ;) In hindsight, you may have just nuanced OG's post a bit.
5teveH wrote:
If you object to the use of the word "antisocial", why not take it up with guy that said it? I'm confused! :confused:
Already had the discussion with @OriginalGriff and he can now read this one too :laugh: Anyway, no hurt feelings. Just wanted to remind people to be kind to each other, even if you don't agree with their personal choices (and that definitely goes both ways).
Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
-
... until it's killed us all. It's persistence and cunning trickery is depressing. :sigh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59428398[^]
The flu (a family of viruses which has many strains and genetic variations) has been around a long time and will always be around. The flu shot many people get is generally geared to 3 or 4 strains expected to be the most likely for a season. There are a lot of viruses and bacteria (germs) that are always around. We deal with them. We have regularly taken vaccines for a number of them that are taken every 1, 2, or 3 years. So why would the Wuhan virus the CCP gave the world be any different?
-
You said "It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline." Not sure how else I should interpret this as "those who don't vaccinate are antisocial and worse" :confused:
Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
Sander Rossel wrote:
"It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline."
I don't think antisocial is right because of many reasons already discussed in the thread. I just go for something more personal like "plain dumb" for them. I yes, I allow myself to be a bit harsh with the topic because my brother was one of those having the choice and don't wanting it (no medical reasons, no fear, nothing... just don't beliving in it) and he passed away last week. Guess why? He died from COVID. Leaving a devastated 14 years old daughter behind him.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
-
Sander Rossel wrote:
"It's quite generous to use the word "antisocial" when describing those who have a choice and decline."
I don't think antisocial is right because of many reasons already discussed in the thread. I just go for something more personal like "plain dumb" for them. I yes, I allow myself to be a bit harsh with the topic because my brother was one of those having the choice and don't wanting it (no medical reasons, no fear, nothing... just don't beliving in it) and he passed away last week. Guess why? He died from COVID. Leaving a devastated 14 years old daughter behind him.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
My condolences. My grandpa pretty much died the same way (although his children are quite a bit older). However, not everyone is your brother. People make choices and suffer the consequences. Point is, if your brother had lived and all would be fine, you would probably say "I understand his choice." And the fact of the matter is that way more people have lived and are fine than are not. I'm sorry your brother belonged in that last category. I hope you and your family, and his, find a way to deal with his loss, especially his daughter.
Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
