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The reason Season 3s are rubbish!

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    5teveH
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    OK, this is just a theory - wot I came up with! By the time we get to Season 3, (of pretty much anything), the actors have all b*ggered off to do other stuff. So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season. But rather than wait, the producers introduce convoluted, (and stupid), plots to accommodate actor availability. This usually results in characters being: in hospital; kidnapped; on a different planet; etc. Anything that can explain why they're not all together. Once you know about this, it is very annoying. Now, when I'm watching Season 3s, I'm constantly analysing the plot for telltale signs of missing actors, rather than just watching the show. And I've now probably spoilt it for the rest of you! :omg: A story line should not be based on who's available when.

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      OK, this is just a theory - wot I came up with! By the time we get to Season 3, (of pretty much anything), the actors have all b*ggered off to do other stuff. So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season. But rather than wait, the producers introduce convoluted, (and stupid), plots to accommodate actor availability. This usually results in characters being: in hospital; kidnapped; on a different planet; etc. Anything that can explain why they're not all together. Once you know about this, it is very annoying. Now, when I'm watching Season 3s, I'm constantly analysing the plot for telltale signs of missing actors, rather than just watching the show. And I've now probably spoilt it for the rest of you! :omg: A story line should not be based on who's available when.

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      5teveH wrote:

      the producers introduce convoluted, (and stupid), plots to accommodate actor availability.

      As well as lengthy clips from previous seasons as the character has flashbacks that are somehow supposed to move the plot line along. :sigh:

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        OK, this is just a theory - wot I came up with! By the time we get to Season 3, (of pretty much anything), the actors have all b*ggered off to do other stuff. So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season. But rather than wait, the producers introduce convoluted, (and stupid), plots to accommodate actor availability. This usually results in characters being: in hospital; kidnapped; on a different planet; etc. Anything that can explain why they're not all together. Once you know about this, it is very annoying. Now, when I'm watching Season 3s, I'm constantly analysing the plot for telltale signs of missing actors, rather than just watching the show. And I've now probably spoilt it for the rest of you! :omg: A story line should not be based on who's available when.

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        dandy72
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        5teveH wrote:

        So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season.

        Covid. It's actually affected how shows are filmed. Of course not knowing which show you're talking about, I have no idea whether it's a factor here or not. Besides, beyond that, they have contracts. If an actor isn't available, then there's a producer somewhere who's not doing his job. And I'll counter your argument by saying it's not until season 3 that Star Trek Next Gen really hit its stride. Any show today that took this long to "get good" would already have been cancelled and buried. (the fact that I had to bring up a 30+ year old show to use as an example really shows how little TV I watch these days...)

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          OK, this is just a theory - wot I came up with! By the time we get to Season 3, (of pretty much anything), the actors have all b*ggered off to do other stuff. So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season. But rather than wait, the producers introduce convoluted, (and stupid), plots to accommodate actor availability. This usually results in characters being: in hospital; kidnapped; on a different planet; etc. Anything that can explain why they're not all together. Once you know about this, it is very annoying. Now, when I'm watching Season 3s, I'm constantly analysing the plot for telltale signs of missing actors, rather than just watching the show. And I've now probably spoilt it for the rest of you! :omg: A story line should not be based on who's available when.

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          I guess there is probably some truth to that. But honestly, I think a lot of shows just don't have the ideas/writers to keep them up to standard. They bust all their ideas on the pilot/first season just to get the show picked up and then they run dry quickly after that. One series that always comes to my mind with things like this is Wayward Pines. I really enjoyed the first season because there was so much mystery to it, but for obvious reasons they couldn't continue that and I didn't even finish the second season... just wasn't interested any more.

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            OK, this is just a theory - wot I came up with! By the time we get to Season 3, (of pretty much anything), the actors have all b*ggered off to do other stuff. So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season. But rather than wait, the producers introduce convoluted, (and stupid), plots to accommodate actor availability. This usually results in characters being: in hospital; kidnapped; on a different planet; etc. Anything that can explain why they're not all together. Once you know about this, it is very annoying. Now, when I'm watching Season 3s, I'm constantly analysing the plot for telltale signs of missing actors, rather than just watching the show. And I've now probably spoilt it for the rest of you! :omg: A story line should not be based on who's available when.

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            Um ... it isn't always true: Season 3 of the Expanse was excellent for example, as was Babylon 5, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, and loads of others. In terms of "unscripted" series where the outline of the whole story isn't pre-planned at all season 3 is where the studio execs are reluctant to make changes in case they alienate existing viewers, so it gets very "formula" scripts (often by new writers / directors) and you get a worse season as a result, I suspect.

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              5teveH wrote:

              So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season.

              Covid. It's actually affected how shows are filmed. Of course not knowing which show you're talking about, I have no idea whether it's a factor here or not. Besides, beyond that, they have contracts. If an actor isn't available, then there's a producer somewhere who's not doing his job. And I'll counter your argument by saying it's not until season 3 that Star Trek Next Gen really hit its stride. Any show today that took this long to "get good" would already have been cancelled and buried. (the fact that I had to bring up a 30+ year old show to use as an example really shows how little TV I watch these days...)

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              I agree. I'm close to finishing a binge of the Blu-Ray Star Trek: The Next Generation. The first season had some rough spots, but by the third it had become pretty good. The Blu-Ray, BTW is beautiful.

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                OK, this is just a theory - wot I came up with! By the time we get to Season 3, (of pretty much anything), the actors have all b*ggered off to do other stuff. So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season. But rather than wait, the producers introduce convoluted, (and stupid), plots to accommodate actor availability. This usually results in characters being: in hospital; kidnapped; on a different planet; etc. Anything that can explain why they're not all together. Once you know about this, it is very annoying. Now, when I'm watching Season 3s, I'm constantly analysing the plot for telltale signs of missing actors, rather than just watching the show. And I've now probably spoilt it for the rest of you! :omg: A story line should not be based on who's available when.

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                And they jump the shark when they run out of ideas for plots! :laugh:

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                  OK, this is just a theory - wot I came up with! By the time we get to Season 3, (of pretty much anything), the actors have all b*ggered off to do other stuff. So it's impossible to get them all back together at the same time to start filming a new season. But rather than wait, the producers introduce convoluted, (and stupid), plots to accommodate actor availability. This usually results in characters being: in hospital; kidnapped; on a different planet; etc. Anything that can explain why they're not all together. Once you know about this, it is very annoying. Now, when I'm watching Season 3s, I'm constantly analysing the plot for telltale signs of missing actors, rather than just watching the show. And I've now probably spoilt it for the rest of you! :omg: A story line should not be based on who's available when.

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                  A great theory! I think it holds true for most stuff.
                  Some exceptions...
                  like Star Trek TNG (already mentioned above)
                  And all seasons of Breaking Bad were overwhelmingling good in so many ways.
                  ...Dexter bends this rule a little, season three was good as the first, so it's seasons four and five were it's "Season 3"

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                    I agree. I'm close to finishing a binge of the Blu-Ray Star Trek: The Next Generation. The first season had some rough spots, but by the third it had become pretty good. The Blu-Ray, BTW is beautiful.

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                    Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                    The Blu-Ray, BTW is beautiful.

                    I bought the original ones on DVD (they take a lot of space on the bookshelf!!) and then went for the Blu-ray when it came out. I haven't yet committed the time to watch them. Part of me fears the show might not have aged as well as I'm hoping. Although TOS has held up, and the newer versions look glorious.

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                      I agree. I'm close to finishing a binge of the Blu-Ray Star Trek: The Next Generation. The first season had some rough spots, but by the third it had become pretty good. The Blu-Ray, BTW is beautiful.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                      Blu-Ray Star Trek: The Next Generation

                      Is there any benefit to having the Blu-Ray set? I always thought TNG was recorded on low quality film.

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                        Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                        Blu-Ray Star Trek: The Next Generation

                        Is there any benefit to having the Blu-Ray set? I always thought TNG was recorded on low quality film.

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                        Randor wrote:

                        Is there any benefit to having the Blu-Ray set?

                        IMO, yes. I don't know how much better they appear than the DVD's, but they are worlds better (pardon the pun) than the original broadcast or VHS. Small details are much more visible like ship markings, planet details, screens and control panels, even tricorder screens. The only downside with the Blu-Ray's is that make-up is more readily apparent, even in the regular cast where more attention to detail was paid.

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