I wish to meet all of the people who say "math is useless to programmers"
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The first thing I learnt about programming, way back in 1986, was the numerical solution of an equation by the Newton-Raphson method. Later on, implemented the computation of Bessel Functions, Hankel Transforms and solution of Integral Equations, all in Fortran.
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
Use it all the time: 2 Good 2 Be ___ 4 Gotten Have a nice day. :)
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
That's mathematics, not programming. ;P
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
den2k88 wrote:
math is...
They'll all be located in North America. The rest of us use the correct word: "maths is...". :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
Interesting. The only math I ever used as a software developer is some pretty basic statistics. And I hated statistics as a student :D
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den2k88 wrote:
math is...
They'll all be located in North America. The rest of us use the correct word: "maths is...". :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Being not anglophone I tend to mix and match UK and US spelling and pronounciation, sometimes willfully (i.e. I pronounce sKedule instead of sCHedule because it's more intuitive coming from Italian). Add to that the fact that Maths is actually singular in italian... I have a strange writing / speaking pattern.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Interesting. The only math I ever used as a software developer is some pretty basic statistics. And I hated statistics as a student :D
When I had to use statistics I understood how much I didn't understand in high school. And I was top of the class in statistics!
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Being not anglophone I tend to mix and match UK and US spelling and pronounciation, sometimes willfully (i.e. I pronounce sKedule instead of sCHedule because it's more intuitive coming from Italian). Add to that the fact that Maths is actually singular in italian... I have a strange writing / speaking pattern.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
There is nothing strange your about your writing / speaking pattern at all. :)
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
Every time I'm asked to do some math, I always start at 1+1 and work my way from there. I always like math at school, got good grades even if I was never really good at it, (or felt like it). Anecdotal, I crapped a test on Fourier Transform in one of our Theoretical Computer Science course, We had to do something with it to reduce some equations, but I indexed one of the sequence at 1 instead of 0, it never converged. :rolleyes:
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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den2k88 wrote:
math is...
They'll all be located in North America. The rest of us use the correct word: "maths is...". :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
:thumbsup:
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
Since I can't figure out superscripting, please read B^2 as B squared ... Let A = B Multiply both sides by B: AB = B^2 Add B^2 to each side: AB + B^2 = 2B^2 Subtract 2AB from each side: B^2 - AB = 2B^2 -2AB (B^2 - AB ) = 2*(B^2 - AB) 1 = 2 QED.
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Since I can't figure out superscripting, please read B^2 as B squared ... Let A = B Multiply both sides by B: AB = B^2 Add B^2 to each side: AB + B^2 = 2B^2 Subtract 2AB from each side: B^2 - AB = 2B^2 -2AB (B^2 - AB ) = 2*(B^2 - AB) 1 = 2 QED.
Rich Leyshon wrote:
Subtract 2AB from each side: B^2 - AB = 2B^2 -2AB
Issue found :D I'm doing a lot of these mistakes anyway.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
It will depend on what you work with. But I think people that are bad at maths probably make bad programmers, since logics is so important.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
Ooh, signal processing? That is cool. Every day is a learning day... recently I had to use Welford standard deviation to calculate a running standard deviation. I did not even know that was possible without storing all of the numbers.
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Rich Leyshon wrote:
Subtract 2AB from each side: B^2 - AB = 2B^2 -2AB
Issue found :D I'm doing a lot of these mistakes anyway.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Rich Leyshon wrote:
Subtract 2AB from each side: B^2 - AB = 2B^2 -2AB
Issue found :D I'm doing a lot of these mistakes anyway.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
That's not a mistake ...
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That's not a mistake ...
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Ooh, signal processing? That is cool. Every day is a learning day... recently I had to use Welford standard deviation to calculate a running standard deviation. I did not even know that was possible without storing all of the numbers.
Brushless motor control, which is signal processing (especially when factoring in PWM sinusoids and EM emission control).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Every time I'm asked to do some math, I always start at 1+1 and work my way from there. I always like math at school, got good grades even if I was never really good at it, (or felt like it). Anecdotal, I crapped a test on Fourier Transform in one of our Theoretical Computer Science course, We had to do something with it to reduce some equations, but I indexed one of the sequence at 1 instead of 0, it never converged. :rolleyes:
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
Maximilien wrote:
I always start at 1+1 and work my way from there
How hard could that possibly be? The Universe of Discourse : 1+1=2[^] :laugh:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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And give them a day of my current job, for which I am rewieving trigonometry, Fourier transforms, Laplace transforms, studying Clarke's and Park's transforms and generaly banging my head against the whole mathematics syllabus I alread beaten into submission during my Engineering student days (which are long gone and the knowledge faded).
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
I think a lot of the time maths is no necessary in much of what we do as developers, but having a mind that is good at maths does seem to make people better developers. Perhaps it's something to do with being able to work with abstractions or recognise logical patterns. P.S. I do not have a naturally good mathematical mind.
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