I don't know what to do
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Get him fired. That's what I have always done.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
He inherited the company from his father, so I can't get him fired. I like your signature BTW. I have 5 budgies, myself.
ed
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I'd look for a job and tell him I'm leaving only once I've found new position
Those are my intentions.
ed
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Sander Rossel wrote:
We have a saying in Dutch, you have a "no", you can get a "yes".
No only in Dutch ;)
Sander Rossel wrote:
This is the only sensible answer. If you're unsatisfied do something about it and look for another job. Maybe you're too old, maybe employers are dying to hire you, but you won't know until you try.
Yeah, but as he says... do it low profile, you don't want to worsen things as long as you haven't found anything else.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Yeah, don't go around shouting how you hate your job and are looking for a new one. Although I did that once, quit my job before I had a new one and took a week of unpaid leave, that sent a message :D I still didn't burn any bridges though, and I'm still in occasional contact with them (in fact, the office I'm renting now is owned by the same guy).
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I'm working for a guy I can't stand anymore. However, given my age and skill set, chances of finding another job are minimal. Have you ever been in that sort of position? Hate the job but need the money?
ed
I thought I was in that same boat 2 years ago. North of 50 and working for a person I could not stand. I would really suggest looking now! There are actually quite a few jobs out there for people with experience and age doesn't really matter that much. At least what I found out. I found two jobs within 3-6 months. My Blog about it. Rod: Lost my Job in January - my thoughts on how to get your next job[^]
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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I'm working for a guy I can't stand anymore. However, given my age and skill set, chances of finding another job are minimal. Have you ever been in that sort of position? Hate the job but need the money?
ed
I agree with others -- do not sell yourself short. Make sure your resume is up-to-date and start job hunting. You have nothing to lose. Regarding ageism, it's very real, and some of the tech giants practice it, although they generally do it well enough that it's hard to prove. OTOH, I've been on teams where I was the youngest guy, and I was in my late 40's at the time. Young, enthusiastic, and newly trained employees bring a lot to the table, including newbie mistakes. Older, experienced employees may not have that enthusiasm and new training, but we make less mistakes and typically ones of lesser magnitude. Personally? I prefer a diverse team, as it brings more to the table.
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Dunno how that is, I never needed the money that much.
You don't know my wife, or my debt level, primarily due to my wife. You are alucky man
I have an uncle who's now in a retirement home, entirely penniless very much because of his wife. Her spending habits could be described as some sort of mental affliction. Worst part is, she blames him for them being broke. I could write a book just about the horror stories I've heard. Some in the family speculate she was put on earth as a precautionary tale for others.
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I'm working for a guy I can't stand anymore. However, given my age and skill set, chances of finding another job are minimal. Have you ever been in that sort of position? Hate the job but need the money?
ed
Start looking. Since covid there are a lot of places going remote and you aren't stuck to just your own city anymore. That's good and bad because it means you're competing with people not just in your city as well. But you don't know until you start looking.
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I'm working for a guy I can't stand anymore. However, given my age and skill set, chances of finding another job are minimal. Have you ever been in that sort of position? Hate the job but need the money?
ed
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I have tried this. He is stupid, slow and won't listen. He inherited the company from his father, so I can't get him fired.
Slow Eddie wrote:
slow
Aren't you slow? Your username says that. It hints towards incompetence but seems an emotional response. If you have made enough noise objectively proving what he does is wrong, I would say your job is done. When things go bad, you can show proof that you pointed out exactly this earlier and no one listened. At least you are covered.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
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I'm working for a guy I can't stand anymore. However, given my age and skill set, chances of finding another job are minimal. Have you ever been in that sort of position? Hate the job but need the money?
ed
You trapped yourself in a box of your own making with the statement, “given my age and skill set”. Unless you’re in a retirement home on your deathbed you can learn, change and grow. You’re just not willing to let go of comfort for happiness. Use the current job to launch your next career. Learn what you need to learn in every free second ( yes you have them) and move on when opportunity presents itself. It will be scary as hell: no risk no reward. Everything worth having is on the other side of fear.
Chris
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I'm working for a guy I can't stand anymore. However, given my age and skill set, chances of finding another job are minimal. Have you ever been in that sort of position? Hate the job but need the money?
ed
I don't know your skill set at all, admittedly, but I personally am being inundated by recruiters after posting my resume to a couple of places. And the jobs look like they're quality jobs with decent pay and good benefits. I'm a .NET programmer with 30 years of industry experience, 7 in .NET specifically. The email is going crazy with interview requests. Give it a try, you've got nothing to lose.
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theoldfool wrote:
One boss was dumb as a post so they promoted him shortly after he took over. Then he was someone else's problem
I believe Scott Adams calls this the [Dilbert Principle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilbert\_principle).
When faced with a bad (or dumb) boss, I push the Dilbert Principle forward. I look at him/her and say to myself, "My current job is to get you promoted ... so I can take your job." ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.
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When faced with a bad (or dumb) boss, I push the Dilbert Principle forward. I look at him/her and say to myself, "My current job is to get you promoted ... so I can take your job." ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.
willichan wrote:
"My current job is to get you promoted ... so I can take your job."
I'm not a job hopper, and admittedly I've had few bosses (I've been at the same company now for over 14 years)...but I've never had a boss whose job I wanted. I entered this field to write software; as soon as you get promoted so there's people working *for* you - your time writing software is at risk of getting greatly reduced. No thanks. Even if the goal of getting promoted was to get someone out of the way.
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I'm working for a guy I can't stand anymore. However, given my age and skill set, chances of finding another job are minimal. Have you ever been in that sort of position? Hate the job but need the money?
ed
I'm in a position of being the sole developer in a small company...the other owner, myself, and a few consultants who work on commission. The other owner used to be a developer but for the last 20 years focuses primarily on running the business. We all share customer support duties, but anything difficult or requiring a fix goes through me. For the most part, it's great! I enjoy tremendous freedom with little oversight...just get the jobs done and don't put out crap! Handle customer requests timely and professionally and consider all customer issues as a chance to improve something. The things that annoy me, and probably would in any other job are: 0: The daily obligatory long and boring phone calls to keep the other owner in the loop. (explain what I've been doing) 1: Constant pressure to make progress on the other owner's pet projects. (or explain why I haven't been working on those projects) 2: Zoom meetings whenever anything technical might be discussed. (otherwise, just sit there and be quiet!) 3: Documentation (because, who else is going to do it?) Every one of the above items has already happened today and it's not even noon! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
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willichan wrote:
"My current job is to get you promoted ... so I can take your job."
I'm not a job hopper, and admittedly I've had few bosses (I've been at the same company now for over 14 years)...but I've never had a boss whose job I wanted. I entered this field to write software; as soon as you get promoted so there's people working *for* you - your time writing software is at risk of getting greatly reduced. No thanks. Even if the goal of getting promoted was to get someone out of the way.
I get your position. For me it isn't really about getting myself promoted, as much as it is setting my own attitude and mindset around my work. I have had good bosses, and I have had bosses that were horrible SOBs that were difficult to work with. Setting my own attitude to one of "I'm going to make you look so good that you will be promoted out of here" helped me to keep my thinking on maintaining the quality of my work (and teamwork), as opposed to the letting my own quality slide while blaming it on him. In one case, my boss picked up on the fact that I was not looking for ways to trip him up, but was picking up where he dropped the ball. He admitted to me at lunch one day that his promotion to that position caught him off guard. He never pictured himself in that job, and felt himself inadequate, and trapped in his position. He still wasn't a good boss, but at least he made more effort to be one. ---------- Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.
