without regard for industry. Which type of organization would you like to work for?
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Something in between. The money is better in a big company, but there's more BS to deal with. The best thing is that there will likely be a variety of things to work on over a longer period. A small company will likely have a smaller budget. And they may have only one task to work on and then say goodbye once it's "finished". "Beware of Bein' the Roller When There's Nothin' Left to Roll" -- Shel Silverstein
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I probably have all the fun... Small private company, that part of a big group, working for education and government (also education)...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
If I had the right opportunity, would love to work with a (reasonable) startup as a team lead. Work with some of the younger people to build a new product.
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And they may have only one task to work on and then say goodbye once it's "finished".
Is software ever finished?
A great quote that someone posted on this site a little while back:
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Remember, Grasshopper, "Software is never completed. It is only released."
EDIT: Here's the original[^] so that everyone can upvote it. :)
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
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As I tax-payer I've worked for the government all my life. :laugh: I've been employed by two sole proprietorships (one of which was run by the owner and his family); three very large, international corporations; one medium sized, privately owned (four co-owners) business that was sold to a corporate house-flipper who sold it to a large corporation; and a large but local non-profit financial institution. The medium-sized business was my favorite while the four guys owned it, but it went deep south almost instantly after they sold it. My second favorite is the non-profit FI.
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
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That's where I work now - a company that is privately owned and run by a family. As it turns out, this is an enormous company with annual sales in the nine (9) figures and we have about six thousand employees at around two dozen locations. It actually seems like a small company in practice but this is one of the biggest privately owned companies in the USA and is in the top five biggest in our industry. We have an IT group, which I do not work in, and just one small group of software engineers - a little over a dozen people. We write the software that controls the machines in the factories. We buy a fair number of machines from outside suppliers but we usually run them with our software. What I find very interesting is that even with a company of this size, I am on a first-name basis with the executives who are members of the owning family. I have worked with smaller companies but I actually enjoy this situation the most. To be honest, it also helps (a lot) that we are paid pretty well here and business has boomed the last few years so the raises and bonuses have been really, really good. At least, for me they have.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
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I've been in the military and small businesses my entire career. The first small business was a collection agency, and it was a good place to work until the owner was bought out. I'm now at a university foundation, which gives me the best of having someone else support the network and avoiding the bureaucracy that exists in large organizations.
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
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The family is the family; the corporation is the old boys' network. I prefer freelance / contract; because you know there is an end; which includes offers of "permanent" employment.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
I work for a semi-startup and quite like it. A total startup would be fun to try. As for "Privately owned family" those are double edged swords. If the family is like in your company fine. But if it is baad, like we saw earlier today here in The Lounge, it stays baad.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
I would like to work for a company that makes Millennium Falcons.
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
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As OG said. Working for myself is best, but the income is too variable. I love startups. Second choice is small growing company. At the bottom of the list are government and very large company. I will never again work for any company in the financial or insurance sectors. Soul-less vampires, they are.
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
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Worked for: Military: easy, "if we wanted you to think, we would have issued you a brain" Airlines, small, nice folks but they moved my job to the left coast and I quit. Large Corp: Approached the level of government bureaucracy. Most, but not all, of my bosses were great. Contractor: 1. Worked with great people, didn't have to the paperwork. Traveled doing trade shows. Contractor: 2. to a small family owned business, My favorite gig. Self: As OG said... I still do a little contracting, but only from SOHO. To do it all over again: Contracting.
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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I work for a semi-startup and quite like it. A total startup would be fun to try. As for "Privately owned family" those are double edged swords. If the family is like in your company fine. But if it is baad, like we saw earlier today here in The Lounge, it stays baad.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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As OG said. Working for myself is best, but the income is too variable. I love startups. Second choice is small growing company. At the bottom of the list are government and very large company. I will never again work for any company in the financial or insurance sectors. Soul-less vampires, they are.
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ASP.NET Core Web API: Plugin Controllers and ServicesI worked at a small-ish commodities trading firm for 3 years. 6 weeks in I knew it was going to be horrible. I stuck it out for three years just so I wasn't job hopping on my resume. Probably wasn't worth it at all.
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
I've only worked at 1 company, a startup, for my entire 23 years in software...first part-time employee hired when the owner won a bid for a long-term USDA project. I'm still working on that project! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
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None of the above - I don't work (retired). Oh wait it is not a survey. By far the most enjoyable was working for myself but as Marc said the money was rather variable.
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this was the Lounge discussion that started my thought process and question. SlowEddie. Good luck dude.
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Ehm! I aint SlowEddie. I was just drawing a parallel between your post and Eddies. Hardly need for any sarcasm.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
oh I am sorry. This really was NOT meant as sarcasm. It was truly and really fully not directed at you either. It was just a note in general that Eddie got me to thinking about this and that I was wishing him good luck.
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I worked at a small-ish commodities trading firm for 3 years. 6 weeks in I knew it was going to be horrible. I stuck it out for three years just so I wasn't job hopping on my resume. Probably wasn't worth it at all.
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I'm surprised it lasted that long without some trader blowing up their account so badly that the company went under. Commodities trading is worse than a casino.
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I have worked in Government. Private Sector Very Large Company, Private Sector semi-startup, Private sector Family Owned business and Education. I know there are others that I am not identifying. And yes mostly you work for your direct boss and that makes all the difference. I prefer so far the Privately owned family. They are really good people though and not out for the money so much as putting out a good/great product. The Education sector was my second favorite. The worst by far was the semi startup.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
I like what I'm doing right now in industry for the reason that it basically forces use-case-centric thinking. You got a product to sell, you got a product to develop, so you want to minimize effort (including long-term-maintenance) under the given circumstances. That totes tickles my fancy.
