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    - First of all, I am sorry to post this very unrelated question here, but I literally have no idea where I can get a normal answer on the web, for this kind of problem. If you can indulge me, and try to 'debug' this problem with me, would be awesome. I will understand if nothing can be done, when we will reach that point. I personally reached that point myself. That's why I come to you, my old c# friends. - So... - Because win7 is no more taken care by Microsoft, all its auto-updates are no more. I clearly remember after I freshly installed a new copy of windows7, the auto-updates were doing their magic and all my usb drivers were functioning with one single click. Now, that 1 click function is no more. Now, all my usb drivers are errors in Device manager. And what is worse than that, something in windows, is not recognizing the device usb even after I installed its original driver. Why? Remember those (KB2908783XXXXX) packages? from Microsoft ? I believe it is a package somewhere, specifically for windows7 that is taking care of this USB problem I have here. But I dont know which it is and it would be the easy fix with it. - I was as thorough as I could. I already installed everything listed here manually: Nvidia drivers and motherboard drivers also updated to their latest versions. 1. windows6.1-kb976932-x64.exe (Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 (KB976932)(is officially removed from Microsoft website)) but I install it offline. 2. Microsoft .NET Framework 4.8 for Windows 7.exe 3. IE11 (originally w7 comes with IE8) so IE11 is an update to that. And I managed to update it, manually. 4. a bunch of: visual c++ redist 2010 to 2015 sp1 x86.exe - I still got a bunch of errors in Device Manager: - I had a nasty error in Device Manager for "MTP" (Media Transfer Protocol) and I believe I solve it by installing: AMD USB 3.0 hub and host controller driver for Windows 7 (64-bit) Now in Device manager there is no MTP error present. But Im not completly sure though. I am skeptical. I installed the latest version of it, from 2022, that's why im skeptical. Even with it installed, I can not see the directory tree inside the Phone as I was able to see before. And it should ! - Now I have a "CDC Serial" error left. I actually find an 'Android_CDC_Driver' and from that package I could install the actual driver which is this file: "usb2ser_Win7.inf". I install it, it worked, I got rid of the "CDC Serial" error in the Device Manager, I actually got a new Port in there. All seem to be fine, r

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      - First of all, I am sorry to post this very unrelated question here, but I literally have no idea where I can get a normal answer on the web, for this kind of problem. If you can indulge me, and try to 'debug' this problem with me, would be awesome. I will understand if nothing can be done, when we will reach that point. I personally reached that point myself. That's why I come to you, my old c# friends. - So... - Because win7 is no more taken care by Microsoft, all its auto-updates are no more. I clearly remember after I freshly installed a new copy of windows7, the auto-updates were doing their magic and all my usb drivers were functioning with one single click. Now, that 1 click function is no more. Now, all my usb drivers are errors in Device manager. And what is worse than that, something in windows, is not recognizing the device usb even after I installed its original driver. Why? Remember those (KB2908783XXXXX) packages? from Microsoft ? I believe it is a package somewhere, specifically for windows7 that is taking care of this USB problem I have here. But I dont know which it is and it would be the easy fix with it. - I was as thorough as I could. I already installed everything listed here manually: Nvidia drivers and motherboard drivers also updated to their latest versions. 1. windows6.1-kb976932-x64.exe (Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 (KB976932)(is officially removed from Microsoft website)) but I install it offline. 2. Microsoft .NET Framework 4.8 for Windows 7.exe 3. IE11 (originally w7 comes with IE8) so IE11 is an update to that. And I managed to update it, manually. 4. a bunch of: visual c++ redist 2010 to 2015 sp1 x86.exe - I still got a bunch of errors in Device Manager: - I had a nasty error in Device Manager for "MTP" (Media Transfer Protocol) and I believe I solve it by installing: AMD USB 3.0 hub and host controller driver for Windows 7 (64-bit) Now in Device manager there is no MTP error present. But Im not completly sure though. I am skeptical. I installed the latest version of it, from 2022, that's why im skeptical. Even with it installed, I can not see the directory tree inside the Phone as I was able to see before. And it should ! - Now I have a "CDC Serial" error left. I actually find an 'Android_CDC_Driver' and from that package I could install the actual driver which is this file: "usb2ser_Win7.inf". I install it, it worked, I got rid of the "CDC Serial" error in the Device Manager, I actually got a new Port in there. All seem to be fine, r

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      To be honest, you would be a load better off installing a supported OS instead of 7 - if nothing else, you would get security improvements as Win 7 hasn't had any security patches since Jan 2020, and you are running on 2016 service pack (unless you found a copy of "Windows 7 SP1 Convenience Rollup" which added a ton of patches to SP1 which will likely include the one you need. You may be able to get that via this link: 64 bit[^] or 32 bit[^] I'm on Win 11, so I obviously can't test them ...

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        To be honest, you would be a load better off installing a supported OS instead of 7 - if nothing else, you would get security improvements as Win 7 hasn't had any security patches since Jan 2020, and you are running on 2016 service pack (unless you found a copy of "Windows 7 SP1 Convenience Rollup" which added a ton of patches to SP1 which will likely include the one you need. You may be able to get that via this link: 64 bit[^] or 32 bit[^] I'm on Win 11, so I obviously can't test them ...

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Thank you very much for your fast response and for this new patch that I never heard of it. I downloaded it, I try to install it, and I get this: https://i.imgur.com/OWkxhcq.jpg[^] My impression is that I have to install something else before this thing to work.

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          To be honest, you would be a load better off installing a supported OS instead of 7 - if nothing else, you would get security improvements as Win 7 hasn't had any security patches since Jan 2020, and you are running on 2016 service pack (unless you found a copy of "Windows 7 SP1 Convenience Rollup" which added a ton of patches to SP1 which will likely include the one you need. You may be able to get that via this link: 64 bit[^] or 32 bit[^] I'm on Win 11, so I obviously can't test them ...

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          (maybe it helps) Here is my PC specs: https://i.imgur.com/84wubYk.jpg[^]

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            Thank you very much for your fast response and for this new patch that I never heard of it. I downloaded it, I try to install it, and I get this: https://i.imgur.com/OWkxhcq.jpg[^] My impression is that I have to install something else before this thing to work.

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            As I said I can't test it for you, and I can't see your computer - so I'd have to guess. Did you install SP1 first?

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              As I said I can't test it for you, and I can't see your computer - so I'd have to guess. Did you install SP1 first?

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              I understand my friend, your best guess is all I need - really. Its how I do things as well. I know you're operating blind right now. So it is to be expected things will not work the first try. But with insistence and perseverance, the rock will crack. Now, to answer your question, yes I made a list in the OP (Original Post) with everything I have already installed in my OS at this point. And yes, SP1 is installed already. It's official name is/was: windows6.1-kb976932-x64 but is no more officially on the microsoft website. I had to get it from a backup made on some website. It has 903Mb in size. And I had to restart like 2 or 3 times while this update was doing its bizniz. WIthout it, I couldnt update (original)IE8 to IE11. I also look for your suggestion and I might have an answer to how to install this new "Windows 7 SP1 Convenience Rollup" patch. Im still reading it right now, and I definetly see some steps before this patch to work. Here is what I find: How to Update Windows 7 All at Once with Microsoft’s Convenience Rollup[^] We will get there... I know we will.

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                I understand my friend, your best guess is all I need - really. Its how I do things as well. I know you're operating blind right now. So it is to be expected things will not work the first try. But with insistence and perseverance, the rock will crack. Now, to answer your question, yes I made a list in the OP (Original Post) with everything I have already installed in my OS at this point. And yes, SP1 is installed already. It's official name is/was: windows6.1-kb976932-x64 but is no more officially on the microsoft website. I had to get it from a backup made on some website. It has 903Mb in size. And I had to restart like 2 or 3 times while this update was doing its bizniz. WIthout it, I couldnt update (original)IE8 to IE11. I also look for your suggestion and I might have an answer to how to install this new "Windows 7 SP1 Convenience Rollup" patch. Im still reading it right now, and I definetly see some steps before this patch to work. Here is what I find: How to Update Windows 7 All at Once with Microsoft’s Convenience Rollup[^] We will get there... I know we will.

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                also here is the prove: https://i.imgur.com/klbjiJH.jpg[^]

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                  also here is the prove: https://i.imgur.com/klbjiJH.jpg[^]

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                  and here is a quote from the page I am reading right now: " Step Three: Download and Install the April 2015 “Servicing Stack” Update You can’t simply install the Convenience Rollup after installing Service Pack 1. You have to first install the April 2015 Servicing Stack Update first. Don’t ask us why; ask Microsoft. "

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                    and here is a quote from the page I am reading right now: " Step Three: Download and Install the April 2015 “Servicing Stack” Update You can’t simply install the Convenience Rollup after installing Service Pack 1. You have to first install the April 2015 Servicing Stack Update first. Don’t ask us why; ask Microsoft. "

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                    Alright, Progress !!! I can now install your new suggested patch ! I had to install first this: Windows6.1-KB3020369-x64.msu and now I dont get that error like before. Hehe... https://i.imgur.com/atH9VK6.jpg[^]

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                      As I said I can't test it for you, and I can't see your computer - so I'd have to guess. Did you install SP1 first?

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                      Ok, everything is now installed. I successfully installed "Windows 7 Convenience Rollup" patch. BUT - the problem still remain unresolved - the same errors in Device Manager. Nothing changed there. https://i.imgur.com/LMyROW1.jpg[^]

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                        As I said I can't test it for you, and I can't see your computer - so I'd have to guess. Did you install SP1 first?

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        I re-checked on the official website and re-installed all my 'PRIME B450M-A' motherboard drivers. I always suspected these drivers are doing some monkey bizniz. But still, after the "Convenience Rollup" patch, after the oficial and slightly updated drivers of my motherboard, still no change in the bunch of errors in my Device Manager. It is exactly as before. No change. You did helped me. I start to believe is a motherboard driver problem that I have here. Specifically for w7. Although I did not had absolutly any kind of errors in Device Manager in my last (auto-updated) version of windows7. It is either: 1-Microsoft didnt share everything; or 2-the motherboard drivers concentrated on w10 and w11 but w7 left it float like a useless label. Damn im pissed off. This is my best guess the problem might be. I'll have to take the fight to them, if they will even answer to my questions... hmmm. But we reach some conclusions and for that I thank you! It's better for me to think in tandem with someone else. So thank you for sticking with me. If you think on some other solutions... please lay them down. It is always a good thing to have more options.

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                          I re-checked on the official website and re-installed all my 'PRIME B450M-A' motherboard drivers. I always suspected these drivers are doing some monkey bizniz. But still, after the "Convenience Rollup" patch, after the oficial and slightly updated drivers of my motherboard, still no change in the bunch of errors in my Device Manager. It is exactly as before. No change. You did helped me. I start to believe is a motherboard driver problem that I have here. Specifically for w7. Although I did not had absolutly any kind of errors in Device Manager in my last (auto-updated) version of windows7. It is either: 1-Microsoft didnt share everything; or 2-the motherboard drivers concentrated on w10 and w11 but w7 left it float like a useless label. Damn im pissed off. This is my best guess the problem might be. I'll have to take the fight to them, if they will even answer to my questions... hmmm. But we reach some conclusions and for that I thank you! It's better for me to think in tandem with someone else. So thank you for sticking with me. If you think on some other solutions... please lay them down. It is always a good thing to have more options.

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                          You're welcome!

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            - First of all, I am sorry to post this very unrelated question here, but I literally have no idea where I can get a normal answer on the web, for this kind of problem. If you can indulge me, and try to 'debug' this problem with me, would be awesome. I will understand if nothing can be done, when we will reach that point. I personally reached that point myself. That's why I come to you, my old c# friends. - So... - Because win7 is no more taken care by Microsoft, all its auto-updates are no more. I clearly remember after I freshly installed a new copy of windows7, the auto-updates were doing their magic and all my usb drivers were functioning with one single click. Now, that 1 click function is no more. Now, all my usb drivers are errors in Device manager. And what is worse than that, something in windows, is not recognizing the device usb even after I installed its original driver. Why? Remember those (KB2908783XXXXX) packages? from Microsoft ? I believe it is a package somewhere, specifically for windows7 that is taking care of this USB problem I have here. But I dont know which it is and it would be the easy fix with it. - I was as thorough as I could. I already installed everything listed here manually: Nvidia drivers and motherboard drivers also updated to their latest versions. 1. windows6.1-kb976932-x64.exe (Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 (KB976932)(is officially removed from Microsoft website)) but I install it offline. 2. Microsoft .NET Framework 4.8 for Windows 7.exe 3. IE11 (originally w7 comes with IE8) so IE11 is an update to that. And I managed to update it, manually. 4. a bunch of: visual c++ redist 2010 to 2015 sp1 x86.exe - I still got a bunch of errors in Device Manager: - I had a nasty error in Device Manager for "MTP" (Media Transfer Protocol) and I believe I solve it by installing: AMD USB 3.0 hub and host controller driver for Windows 7 (64-bit) Now in Device manager there is no MTP error present. But Im not completly sure though. I am skeptical. I installed the latest version of it, from 2022, that's why im skeptical. Even with it installed, I can not see the directory tree inside the Phone as I was able to see before. And it should ! - Now I have a "CDC Serial" error left. I actually find an 'Android_CDC_Driver' and from that package I could install the actual driver which is this file: "usb2ser_Win7.inf". I install it, it worked, I got rid of the "CDC Serial" error in the Device Manager, I actually got a new Port in there. All seem to be fine, r

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                            I killed the communication between my PC and my Android phone a while ago. The phone won't work with my portable, nor with my desktop. It lost them both ad the same time, so it wasn't the fault of the PC(s) - and I know how I did it: I am not a big fan of smartphone apps. My eyes are too old, my fingers too large, and touch screens everywhere refuse to react to my fingertips - if you see someone at the coffee machine tapping, tapping harder, tapping again, ... then it could be me. Same with my baking oven. And my desktop radio. I set up my Bluetooth PC keyboard to talk to the phone, but that works at home only. I decided to clean up my phone, so that it would have only the apps that I "must" have. Not the other hundred or so apps that somehow have made it into my phone. I killed off every one that I didn't remember ever using. Obviously, I removed one too many. I haven't yet gotten around to fixing it, but assume that a complete 'restore to factory settings' will do the job - crossing my fingers for factory restore still being available even if OS updates no longer are. If not, I have another reason for replacing my six year old Galaxy S7 edge with several cracks in the front glass :-)

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                              I killed the communication between my PC and my Android phone a while ago. The phone won't work with my portable, nor with my desktop. It lost them both ad the same time, so it wasn't the fault of the PC(s) - and I know how I did it: I am not a big fan of smartphone apps. My eyes are too old, my fingers too large, and touch screens everywhere refuse to react to my fingertips - if you see someone at the coffee machine tapping, tapping harder, tapping again, ... then it could be me. Same with my baking oven. And my desktop radio. I set up my Bluetooth PC keyboard to talk to the phone, but that works at home only. I decided to clean up my phone, so that it would have only the apps that I "must" have. Not the other hundred or so apps that somehow have made it into my phone. I killed off every one that I didn't remember ever using. Obviously, I removed one too many. I haven't yet gotten around to fixing it, but assume that a complete 'restore to factory settings' will do the job - crossing my fingers for factory restore still being available even if OS updates no longer are. If not, I have another reason for replacing my six year old Galaxy S7 edge with several cracks in the front glass :-)

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                              trønderen wrote:

                              touch screens everywhere refuse to react to my fingertips

                              I used to have a similar problem until I realized that the cause was that I wasn't keeping my finger stationary during the tap. If you make contact with the screen and don't keep your finger absolutely stationary, it will assume you mean to start a drag and drop operation.

                              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                trønderen wrote:

                                touch screens everywhere refuse to react to my fingertips

                                I used to have a similar problem until I realized that the cause was that I wasn't keeping my finger stationary during the tap. If you make contact with the screen and don't keep your finger absolutely stationary, it will assume you mean to start a drag and drop operation.

                                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                Even on by baking oven, which has no sort of drag and drop function? Nor has the coffee machine. Nor the radio.

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                                  You're welcome!

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                                  Update: This is after 5 days. I didn't do anything important these days, I believe I installed 1 or 2 software and 1 or 2 games, and I guess at least 10 restarts of PC in the last 5 days from when I installed that patch from you. - Today I input the usb into my phone again, and for my surprise it appear on the phone "usb PC connection" and on my actual PC, in device manager the things are the same, nothing appear or dissapeared, but the content of the phone is now visible!!! Before, when I come with the problem, nothing was visible inside the folder of the phone. It was all white. Now is back to normal. https://i.imgur.com/mBf0r3c.jpg[^] I have no logical explanation. It just worked. But why exactly? What is the trigger? Maybe that update was still updating my windows, after a couple of PC restarts? It's the only thing I can think. Welcome to the weirdness of windows world. I felt responsible to bring the good news to you, because like me, you are a technical guy who likes good results. Have a good day.

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                                    Update: This is after 5 days. I didn't do anything important these days, I believe I installed 1 or 2 software and 1 or 2 games, and I guess at least 10 restarts of PC in the last 5 days from when I installed that patch from you. - Today I input the usb into my phone again, and for my surprise it appear on the phone "usb PC connection" and on my actual PC, in device manager the things are the same, nothing appear or dissapeared, but the content of the phone is now visible!!! Before, when I come with the problem, nothing was visible inside the folder of the phone. It was all white. Now is back to normal. https://i.imgur.com/mBf0r3c.jpg[^] I have no logical explanation. It just worked. But why exactly? What is the trigger? Maybe that update was still updating my windows, after a couple of PC restarts? It's the only thing I can think. Welcome to the weirdness of windows world. I felt responsible to bring the good news to you, because like me, you are a technical guy who likes good results. Have a good day.

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                                    Ah. The Development Fairies have defeated the Random Fault Gremlins ... I hate it when that happens ... :laugh:

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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