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    rnbergren
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    I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

    To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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      I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

      To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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      honey the codewitch
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      People knock it, but as much as half of my coding is googling sometimes. Using google well is an acquired skill. Being able to code from example is as well. Contrary to popular belief, you can create good code by using google to find examples. You just have to evaluate whatever it comes up with, which requires actual programming skills. Maybe it would benefit these people to brush up on their search-fu.

      Real programmers use butterflies

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        I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

        To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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        Richard Deeming
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        If you do, be prepared for Chris to punch you[^]. :-D


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          I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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          I think it would be a bad reputation for the CP website if 50% of the answers were "use Google or Bing for a websearch" ... And who is stupid - the persons who let others to do the work for them or those who really do that work?

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            I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

            To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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            den2k88
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            Google is useless if there is not prior knowledge of the subject. Asking a 'human' is the best lazy way to get information without putting in the work. I wonder if my 7 years stint as a programmer with no Internet access (only MSDN) have something to do with me using Google as a last resort (well, after that usually comes customer support or CP).

            GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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              I think it would be a bad reputation for the CP website if 50% of the answers were "use Google or Bing for a websearch" ... And who is stupid - the persons who let others to do the work for them or those who really do that work?

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              Jo_vb.net wrote:

              I think it would be a bad reputation for the CP website if 50% of the answers were "use Google or Bing for a websearch" ...

              I mean, why reinventing SO?

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                I have never been a big fan of code project members coming to the Lounge to complain about other "stupid" members and their QA or programming questions. I think it is extremely unprofessional, to say the least.

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                den2k88
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                Sometimes it is warranted, but very rarely IMHO.

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                • R rnbergren

                  I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

                  To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                  I have never been a big fan of code project members coming to the Lounge to complain about other "stupid" members and their QA or programming questions. I think it is extremely unprofessional, to say the least.

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                    I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

                    To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                    Maximilien
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                    you can just ignore those questions. Or be a good person and make it a learning experience for them by helping them either pointing them to a good answer or suggesting solutions for their questions.

                    CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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                      I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

                      To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                      trønderen
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                      If someone in meatscape asks for your help with a problem, do you then usually cut them off with "Go and fix the problem yourself - I won't help you!"? Most times, when someone asks for help with a problem, the problem can be solved, given the right competence or knowledge. The "stupid" person asking for help doesn't possess that competence / knowledge; that is why he asks. If you seriously think that any questions asked for lack of knowledge deserves to be rejected, then you reject to help with any solvable problem. The only "help" you are willing to give is to state that the problem is unsolvable. Many times I have given up after hours of unsuccessful googling, asking people for help. I have so many times been met with "LMGTFY" that I have made it a habit to include in my question the terms I have tried googling. Yet, I have had people reply "You're just a silly fool - why didn't you google 'xyzzy' or 'abcde'?? Actually, one of the best ways of asking, if you don't want to be called a fool / idiot for googling the wrong terms, is to not ask for a solution, not tell what you have tried googling, but ask "What would be good google terms for obtaining information about xyzzy?" Important notice: I am certainly not referring to CP as a forum where you are typically cut off with a LMGTFY - most other forums are terribly much worse. If you have a real problem, people at CP are generally helpful, even in cases where googling the ideal terms would have lead to a solution. The only requests regularly rejected at CP are of the kind 'please do my homework for me', but that comes from laziness, not that the asker is an idiot. Besides, googling won't do his homework for him. (And chances are that the asker found the BB forum through googling :-))

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                        If someone in meatscape asks for your help with a problem, do you then usually cut them off with "Go and fix the problem yourself - I won't help you!"? Most times, when someone asks for help with a problem, the problem can be solved, given the right competence or knowledge. The "stupid" person asking for help doesn't possess that competence / knowledge; that is why he asks. If you seriously think that any questions asked for lack of knowledge deserves to be rejected, then you reject to help with any solvable problem. The only "help" you are willing to give is to state that the problem is unsolvable. Many times I have given up after hours of unsuccessful googling, asking people for help. I have so many times been met with "LMGTFY" that I have made it a habit to include in my question the terms I have tried googling. Yet, I have had people reply "You're just a silly fool - why didn't you google 'xyzzy' or 'abcde'?? Actually, one of the best ways of asking, if you don't want to be called a fool / idiot for googling the wrong terms, is to not ask for a solution, not tell what you have tried googling, but ask "What would be good google terms for obtaining information about xyzzy?" Important notice: I am certainly not referring to CP as a forum where you are typically cut off with a LMGTFY - most other forums are terribly much worse. If you have a real problem, people at CP are generally helpful, even in cases where googling the ideal terms would have lead to a solution. The only requests regularly rejected at CP are of the kind 'please do my homework for me', but that comes from laziness, not that the asker is an idiot. Besides, googling won't do his homework for him. (And chances are that the asker found the BB forum through googling :-))

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                        musefan
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                        Perhaps allowing yourself to be insulted is just the price you pay for free help.

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                          I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

                          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                          I (sort of) agree but as pointed out on a few occasions by both Chris and Sean, that does not answer the question. I think maybe the FAQ says more.

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                          • R rnbergren

                            I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

                            To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Just don't engage.

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                              I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

                              To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                              Sean Ewington
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                              I would advise against that. 1. It doesn't answer their question. 2. It doesn't help anyone else (assuming the question is phrased well enough that someone else might be searching for it. 3. I'm not sure they will learn. 4. If I find a question that this response that requires this, I will more than likely delete it.

                              Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject

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                                Perhaps allowing yourself to be insulted is just the price you pay for free help.

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                                trønderen
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                                When I ask my friend, neighbors or workmates for (free) help with something, they have been positive and helpful; I have not had to pay the price of tolerating their insults. Not yet. That may change in the future, as internet "social conventions" spread to real life.

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                                • S Sean Ewington

                                  I would advise against that. 1. It doesn't answer their question. 2. It doesn't help anyone else (assuming the question is phrased well enough that someone else might be searching for it. 3. I'm not sure they will learn. 4. If I find a question that this response that requires this, I will more than likely delete it.

                                  Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Comprehension, Not everyone understands the documents they are reading. That's what it boils down to. Sometimes you just need someone to explain it in laymen terms.

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                                  • S Slacker007

                                    I have never been a big fan of code project members coming to the Lounge to complain about other "stupid" members and their QA or programming questions. I think it is extremely unprofessional, to say the least.

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                                    That, and "answers" that barely qualify as comments.

                                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                      Google is useless if there is not prior knowledge of the subject. Asking a 'human' is the best lazy way to get information without putting in the work. I wonder if my 7 years stint as a programmer with no Internet access (only MSDN) have something to do with me using Google as a last resort (well, after that usually comes customer support or CP).

                                      GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                      englebart
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                                      Back when there was comprehensive documentation, not just lists of topics on websites. Basically, you had Reference and Guide, and they were discrete. You also had to ship your product on floppy disks! 😊 I still remember that we had multiple stacks of 5.25 in floppy disks to the ceiling after some Microsoft major prerelease programs.

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                                      • R rnbergren

                                        I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

                                        To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                                        Member 9167057
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                                        Not all of them. Sometimes, verbatim answers to stupid questions yield some fantastic entertainment.

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                                          I assume everyone has played with let me google that for you. If not google it. HAHAHA But anyway. I was looking thru the questions in the programming areas and let me just say 2 things. 1. WOW - people are stupid and want others to do their work. 2. WOW - people here on CP are amazingly patient. I am making a suggestion that everyone should just respond with a 'let me google that for you' link. for example a question in one forum about room size calculations. respond with this link. LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You[^] This teaches them to use the Googlies the way they were meant to be used.

                                          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                                          Wizard of Sleeves
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                                          People seem to think I know everything. To be honest, I have a terrible memory. So, when someone phones me, wanting to know something, the conversation goes something like this: caller: ring ring me: hello? caller: Hi, do you know [who|what|why|when|where] is? me: (click home on browser) Hi it's John isn't it? caller: Yes, it's john, from the tech department. me: (typing "[who|what|when|where] " into google) What is connection with? caller: Blah, blah and blah. me: (looking for the most likely answers that match his babble) Well, is [they|that|then|there]. caller: wow, thank you. How do you know so much? me: (bookmarking that page, because the idiot will phone for more details later) I just know stuff.

                                          Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.

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