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  • D David ONeil

    We're all going to die. It's just a matter of 'when.' Not much use worrying about it, but still useful to keep in shape to get the most out of whatever is left. Love, laugh, and fuck off! Change the world while you are at it! :)

    Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++

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    trønderen
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    Highly recommended for those who appreciate old music: Marco Beasley, l'Arpeggiata: Stefano Landi - Passacaglia della vita[^] I've found a translation of they lyrics - I don't know how faithful it is, but at least it gives an approximate idea. The song is beautiful even if you don't understand the words: The Passacaglia of Life Oh how wrong you are to think that the years will never end. We must die. Life is a dream, that seems so sweet, but joy is all too brief. We must die. Of no avail is medicine, of no use is quinine, we cannot be cured. We must die. Worthless are lamentations, threats, bravado produced by our courage. We must die. No learned doctrine can find the words to calm this boldness We must die. There is no means to untie this knot, it is useless to flee. We must die. It is the same for everyone, a wily man cannot shield himself from the blow, We must die. Cruel Death is unfaithful to all, and shames everyone. Die we must. And yet, o madness o ravings, it seems like lying to oneself. Die we must. We die singing, we die playing the cittern, the bagpipe, yet die we must. We die dancing, drinking, eating; with this carrion, die we must. Youths, children, and all men must end in dust. We must die. The healthy, the sick, the brave, the defenceless, must all make an end, We must die. And when you are least thinking of it, in your breast, all comes to an end, We must die. If you do not think of this, you have lost your senses, you are dead and you can say: We must die.

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    • H honey the codewitch

      I keep reminding myself that every time someone has predicted the end of humanity they've been wrong. We've always existed on the precipice of disaster - it's just sometimes we notice. Throughout our history, we were one superbug, one asteroid, heck, maybe one alien invasion, and eventually one madman with an arsenal of nukes away from total annihilation. Nevertheless, we persist. *deep cleansing breath*

      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      Do you really care about humanity though? Humanity may survive, but you may not. Humanity may survive, and you may too, but you might go back to the stone age. If you do survive, but life as we know it is forever gone, do you not wish that nuke hit you on the head too? If you don't survive, do you really care what humanity does? Dead people are not known for being particularly caring.

      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Do you really care about humanity though? Humanity may survive, but you may not. Humanity may survive, and you may too, but you might go back to the stone age. If you do survive, but life as we know it is forever gone, do you not wish that nuke hit you on the head too? If you don't survive, do you really care what humanity does? Dead people are not known for being particularly caring.

        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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        I've considered all this at points. I tend to wax morbid.

        Sander Rossel wrote:

        Dead people are not known for being particularly caring.

        That's why I'm not so concerned about my own death. I won't miss losing my ego because I'll be dead. But on the other hand, stories of the Mad Max sort get to me, because hope dies. That's its own fresh hell. That may be worse than death. I don't fear living through that myself. But I do fear for humankind when there's a madman who might see nukes as his only way out. Then again I'm prone to anxiety, and I have meds I can take for that as needed. Until this mess in eastern europe blows over I'll probably be going through them. Meh.

        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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        • H honey the codewitch

          I've considered all this at points. I tend to wax morbid.

          Sander Rossel wrote:

          Dead people are not known for being particularly caring.

          That's why I'm not so concerned about my own death. I won't miss losing my ego because I'll be dead. But on the other hand, stories of the Mad Max sort get to me, because hope dies. That's its own fresh hell. That may be worse than death. I don't fear living through that myself. But I do fear for humankind when there's a madman who might see nukes as his only way out. Then again I'm prone to anxiety, and I have meds I can take for that as needed. Until this mess in eastern europe blows over I'll probably be going through them. Meh.

          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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          Sander Rossel
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          MEDIOCRE! :laugh:

          honey the codewitch wrote:

          Until this mess in eastern europe blows over I'll probably be going through them. Meh.

          May take months or even years :sigh: People and media will get tired of it though, so you won't read about it as much and stop worrying as much by extension.

          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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          • H honey the codewitch

            I keep reminding myself that every time someone has predicted the end of humanity they've been wrong. We've always existed on the precipice of disaster - it's just sometimes we notice. Throughout our history, we were one superbug, one asteroid, heck, maybe one alien invasion, and eventually one madman with an arsenal of nukes away from total annihilation. Nevertheless, we persist. *deep cleansing breath*

            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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            The past is a cancelled check. The future is unknowable. Worrying about either one is futile, a waste of time. All you can do is deal with what is happening right now. Can't get my wife to believe this. She makes herself miserable worrying about both.

            Que Sera, Sera.

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              MEDIOCRE! :laugh:

              honey the codewitch wrote:

              Until this mess in eastern europe blows over I'll probably be going through them. Meh.

              May take months or even years :sigh: People and media will get tired of it though, so you won't read about it as much and stop worrying as much by extension.

              Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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              Sander Rossel wrote:

              media will get tired of it though

              Only when it no longer brings eyeballs, which means a drop in advertising revenue. Then they'll move onto something else. Case in point: COVID. The number of daily stories have dropped faster than the number of cases. Not being cynical. That's how it works.

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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                media will get tired of it though

                Only when it no longer brings eyeballs, which means a drop in advertising revenue. Then they'll move onto something else. Case in point: COVID. The number of daily stories have dropped faster than the number of cases. Not being cynical. That's how it works.

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                The news website I usually read already went from a dedicated front page section to just some articles between all the other articles. COVID is still only a foot note. Number of cases are quickly rising though (but the number of hospitalizations are not) :)

                Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  I keep reminding myself that every time someone has predicted the end of humanity they've been wrong. We've always existed on the precipice of disaster - it's just sometimes we notice. Throughout our history, we were one superbug, one asteroid, heck, maybe one alien invasion, and eventually one madman with an arsenal of nukes away from total annihilation. Nevertheless, we persist. *deep cleansing breath*

                  To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                  Lost User
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                  Aliens :D You boast about things that didn't happen. Also, we persist for a little time, if you know your history.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    I keep reminding myself that every time someone has predicted the end of humanity they've been wrong. We've always existed on the precipice of disaster - it's just sometimes we notice. Throughout our history, we were one superbug, one asteroid, heck, maybe one alien invasion, and eventually one madman with an arsenal of nukes away from total annihilation. Nevertheless, we persist. *deep cleansing breath*

                    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                    Rage
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                    honey the codewitch wrote:

                    they've been wrong

                    But they are less and less wrong. We have been damn lucky a few times already, and while the time goes, we have more deadly/effective way to end it all, which all require lesser people to initiate them, and since there are more and more people on the planet, it makes it even more probable to happen. I won't lie to you : the odds are not in our favour.:~ Anyway, if termination of any sort comes, there is no reason to worry anymore. If it does not come, there is no reason to worry either. So overall, there is no reason to worry :-D

                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      I keep reminding myself that every time someone has predicted the end of humanity they've been wrong. We've always existed on the precipice of disaster - it's just sometimes we notice. Throughout our history, we were one superbug, one asteroid, heck, maybe one alien invasion, and eventually one madman with an arsenal of nukes away from total annihilation. Nevertheless, we persist. *deep cleansing breath*

                      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                      The only certainty is death and that applies to our world, not just our bodies. I know of nothing in this universe which is in stasis - everything is either growing or dying. Just as we will die, so will our countries, our civilisations, our cultures, even our species and our world. The fact that everything is as ephemeral as a sunset only adds to its beauty.

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        I keep reminding myself that every time someone has predicted the end of humanity they've been wrong. We've always existed on the precipice of disaster - it's just sometimes we notice. Throughout our history, we were one superbug, one asteroid, heck, maybe one alien invasion, and eventually one madman with an arsenal of nukes away from total annihilation. Nevertheless, we persist. *deep cleansing breath*

                        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                        Dimitria Boukouvalas
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                        I agree with you. We persist. Until we don't...

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          I've considered all this at points. I tend to wax morbid.

                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          Dead people are not known for being particularly caring.

                          That's why I'm not so concerned about my own death. I won't miss losing my ego because I'll be dead. But on the other hand, stories of the Mad Max sort get to me, because hope dies. That's its own fresh hell. That may be worse than death. I don't fear living through that myself. But I do fear for humankind when there's a madman who might see nukes as his only way out. Then again I'm prone to anxiety, and I have meds I can take for that as needed. Until this mess in eastern europe blows over I'll probably be going through them. Meh.

                          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                          Alister Morton
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                          There was a line in a TV show last night - "The only thing worse than no hope is false hope".

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            I keep reminding myself that every time someone has predicted the end of humanity they've been wrong. We've always existed on the precipice of disaster - it's just sometimes we notice. Throughout our history, we were one superbug, one asteroid, heck, maybe one alien invasion, and eventually one madman with an arsenal of nukes away from total annihilation. Nevertheless, we persist. *deep cleansing breath*

                            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                            Cpichols
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                            I read an article recently (pretty sure it was linked in the CP Daily News) about rethinking our premise that human civilization has taken a mostly linear progression toward our current civilization. There is just too much evidence of lost technologies to continue with that premise. But of course, you are right: we survived, the human race. And who's to know where the former upward paths would have led? Would we have been better off if there'd been no cataclysm to wipe out those ancient, advanced civilizations?

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              I keep reminding myself that every time someone has predicted the end of humanity they've been wrong. We've always existed on the precipice of disaster - it's just sometimes we notice. Throughout our history, we were one superbug, one asteroid, heck, maybe one alien invasion, and eventually one madman with an arsenal of nukes away from total annihilation. Nevertheless, we persist. *deep cleansing breath*

                              To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                              Kirk 10389821
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                              Ah, lets be realistic. Lets use astrological type timeframes. 1) We don't matter to the cosmos 2) We weren't here for the big bang 3) We won't be here for the big collapse 4) 99.9% of all humans that ever existed... Nobody knows about, not even us! 5) If we are lucky, we will evolve and survive over time, reptiles survived Heck, recent research is showing that even what we think of as "real" is an illusion to keep us eating/procreating. Because WHEN we collectively stop doing EITHER or BOTH of those things as a species, it's pretty much over... (Hence we gain pleasure from both activities)

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                              • S Slow Eddie

                                The past is a cancelled check. The future is unknowable. Worrying about either one is futile, a waste of time. All you can do is deal with what is happening right now. Can't get my wife to believe this. She makes herself miserable worrying about both.

                                Que Sera, Sera.

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                                Can't get my wife to believe this

                                Same here. Most don't get it. Worth it to "preach the gospel" though. The "aha" moment can be liberating.

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