Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Cryptography 1863

Cryptography 1863

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
lounge
10 Posts 7 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • L Offline
    L Offline
    Lost User
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    (Doing some background research) WAR DEPARTMENT, C. S. A. , Richmond, Va., June 22, 1863. Maj. Gen. D. H. HILL, Commanding, etc. : GENERAL : The delay is so great in transmitting and deciphering dispatches in the cipher used by the signal corps, that I shall here- after, when necessary to employ cipher, communicate with you in the following, viz: Reverse the alphabet, taking Z for A, Y for B, X for C, &c. I request you to use the same cipher in your dispatches to the De- partment. Your obedient servant, J. A. SEDDON, Secretary of War.

    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

    Greg UtasG R A S C 5 Replies Last reply
    0
    • L Lost User

      (Doing some background research) WAR DEPARTMENT, C. S. A. , Richmond, Va., June 22, 1863. Maj. Gen. D. H. HILL, Commanding, etc. : GENERAL : The delay is so great in transmitting and deciphering dispatches in the cipher used by the signal corps, that I shall here- after, when necessary to employ cipher, communicate with you in the following, viz: Reverse the alphabet, taking Z for A, Y for B, X for C, &c. I request you to use the same cipher in your dispatches to the De- partment. Your obedient servant, J. A. SEDDON, Secretary of War.

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

      Greg UtasG Offline
      Greg UtasG Offline
      Greg Utas
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      That would get broken in no time. It would be interesting to know what cipher they were using. And now it's euphemistically Secretary of Defense. Plain speaking was a thing back then, though I suppose Secretary of Offense would be somewhat honest.

      Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
      The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

      <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
      <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

      C L 2 Replies Last reply
      0
      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

        That would get broken in no time. It would be interesting to know what cipher they were using. And now it's euphemistically Secretary of Defense. Plain speaking was a thing back then, though I suppose Secretary of Offense would be somewhat honest.

        Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
        The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

        C Offline
        C Offline
        Craig Robbins
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        General Hill was a Confederate officer - and this letter does say CSA (Confederate States of America). Telegraph was used at the time for some information transmittal, assuming there was a non-destroyed line at hand.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • L Lost User

          (Doing some background research) WAR DEPARTMENT, C. S. A. , Richmond, Va., June 22, 1863. Maj. Gen. D. H. HILL, Commanding, etc. : GENERAL : The delay is so great in transmitting and deciphering dispatches in the cipher used by the signal corps, that I shall here- after, when necessary to employ cipher, communicate with you in the following, viz: Reverse the alphabet, taking Z for A, Y for B, X for C, &c. I request you to use the same cipher in your dispatches to the De- partment. Your obedient servant, J. A. SEDDON, Secretary of War.

          "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

          R Offline
          R Offline
          Rick York
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          I once ran across a description of a Civil War-era cypher and it was very strange. It used a crossword pattern with and without dots for the first eighteen letters and then an X pattern with and without dots for the last eight. I can see how messages like that could take a while to decipher.

          "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

          P 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • R Rick York

            I once ran across a description of a Civil War-era cypher and it was very strange. It used a crossword pattern with and without dots for the first eighteen letters and then an X pattern with and without dots for the last eight. I can see how messages like that could take a while to decipher.

            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

            P Offline
            P Offline
            PIEBALDconsult
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Pig pen cypher.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • L Lost User

              (Doing some background research) WAR DEPARTMENT, C. S. A. , Richmond, Va., June 22, 1863. Maj. Gen. D. H. HILL, Commanding, etc. : GENERAL : The delay is so great in transmitting and deciphering dispatches in the cipher used by the signal corps, that I shall here- after, when necessary to employ cipher, communicate with you in the following, viz: Reverse the alphabet, taking Z for A, Y for B, X for C, &c. I request you to use the same cipher in your dispatches to the De- partment. Your obedient servant, J. A. SEDDON, Secretary of War.

              "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

              A Offline
              A Offline
              Amarnath S
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              I get reminded of Sherlock Holmes adventure "The Dancing Men". A cryptography based adventure.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • L Lost User

                (Doing some background research) WAR DEPARTMENT, C. S. A. , Richmond, Va., June 22, 1863. Maj. Gen. D. H. HILL, Commanding, etc. : GENERAL : The delay is so great in transmitting and deciphering dispatches in the cipher used by the signal corps, that I shall here- after, when necessary to employ cipher, communicate with you in the following, viz: Reverse the alphabet, taking Z for A, Y for B, X for C, &c. I request you to use the same cipher in your dispatches to the De- partment. Your obedient servant, J. A. SEDDON, Secretary of War.

                "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

                S Offline
                S Offline
                SickPup404
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                This. This is why all manner of security gets broken. Security is hard work. Security must be maintained, no matter if it's passwords or door locks. If Seddon were alive today, he would certainly reuse passwords.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • L Lost User

                  (Doing some background research) WAR DEPARTMENT, C. S. A. , Richmond, Va., June 22, 1863. Maj. Gen. D. H. HILL, Commanding, etc. : GENERAL : The delay is so great in transmitting and deciphering dispatches in the cipher used by the signal corps, that I shall here- after, when necessary to employ cipher, communicate with you in the following, viz: Reverse the alphabet, taking Z for A, Y for B, X for C, &c. I request you to use the same cipher in your dispatches to the De- partment. Your obedient servant, J. A. SEDDON, Secretary of War.

                  "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

                  C Offline
                  C Offline
                  Craig Robbins
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Interesting that this was sent less than 2 weeks before the pivotal Battle of Gettysburg - one of the few times that the Confederate Army marched into the northern states. Hill was part of that army that marched north. Edit: Mistake on my part - I am confusing Confederate General A P Hill with Confederate General D H Hill. D H Hill stayed in Richmond VA during the battle of Gettysburg. I apologize.

                  L 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • C Craig Robbins

                    Interesting that this was sent less than 2 weeks before the pivotal Battle of Gettysburg - one of the few times that the Confederate Army marched into the northern states. Hill was part of that army that marched north. Edit: Mistake on my part - I am confusing Confederate General A P Hill with Confederate General D H Hill. D H Hill stayed in Richmond VA during the battle of Gettysburg. I apologize.

                    L Offline
                    L Offline
                    Lost User
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Yes; Gettysburg. There are dispatches (from both sides) about their relative movements towards that big event ... and then this pops up.

                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                      That would get broken in no time. It would be interesting to know what cipher they were using. And now it's euphemistically Secretary of Defense. Plain speaking was a thing back then, though I suppose Secretary of Offense would be somewhat honest.

                      Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                      The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                      L Offline
                      L Offline
                      Lost User
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      It was known as the Caesar Cipher. Could have made it a little harder shifting the letters instead of simply reversing. (I like the one where you write words with milk, let it dry, and then over heat the letters reappear).

                      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      • Login

                      • Don't have an account? Register

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Tags
                      • Popular
                      • World
                      • Users
                      • Groups