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Is Windows 11 ready to be used?

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  • N Nelek

    Nick Polyak wrote:

    Any important features lacking?

    Sanity? Logic? :-D

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    Nick Polyak
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    Can you justify? Or is it just a joke? If sanity and logic (or lack of thereof) is comparable to Windows 10 - it is good enough for me.

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      What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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      0x01AA
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      So far pretty ok. Whether you like it or hate it... sooner or later you need to become familiar with it. Same was with 2k->xp->W7->W8->W10 :^)

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      • N Nick Polyak

        What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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        lmoelleb
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        It's just windows 10. Not even 10.1. Most of the UI changes aren't that big. But there might be something annoying you, you have to try it out - no one can tell you, as we all have different things we find important. For me, the changes are just "meh". Then they added some bloatware (Teams), but improved wsl2, so the usual back and forth. Certainly nothing that couldn't just have been Windows 10 21h2 (as they clearly know, hence the version remains 10.0).

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          It's just windows 10. Not even 10.1. Most of the UI changes aren't that big. But there might be something annoying you, you have to try it out - no one can tell you, as we all have different things we find important. For me, the changes are just "meh". Then they added some bloatware (Teams), but improved wsl2, so the usual back and forth. Certainly nothing that couldn't just have been Windows 10 21h2 (as they clearly know, hence the version remains 10.0).

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          Nick Polyak
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          Yes, it is actually for the sake of better WSL that I plan to switch (if at all)

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          • N Nick Polyak

            Can you justify? Or is it just a joke? If sanity and logic (or lack of thereof) is comparable to Windows 10 - it is good enough for me.

            Nick Polyak

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            Nelek
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            It was a joke (message icon set). I haven't installed it (an I will probably wait a bit to do it) so I can't really speak.

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            • N Nick Polyak

              What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

              Nick Polyak

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              dandy72
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              I have it in a VM somewhere but haven't spent enough time making actual use of it to offer an honest opinion. But what I keep hearing is, if you're a power user, you will sooner or later come to hate the taskbar, which lacks a lot of basic features you simply took for granted on Win10. If that's of no concern to you...jump right ahead? Because every other comment I've read so far agrees with the others here, it's really still Win10 with a new paint job. YMMV.

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              • N Nick Polyak

                What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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                Mircea Neacsu
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                Works fine for me. After you change the taskbar icons alignment to "left", you might not even notice it's W11 and not W10. Biggest annoyance: icons in start menu cannot be grouped. Biggest improvement: WSL integration in terminal What I like most: the rounded corners - they don't scratch my eyes :)

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                  Works fine for me. After you change the taskbar icons alignment to "left", you might not even notice it's W11 and not W10. Biggest annoyance: icons in start menu cannot be grouped. Biggest improvement: WSL integration in terminal What I like most: the rounded corners - they don't scratch my eyes :)

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                  charlieg
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                  You can't group icons in the start menu? :wtf: What braniac came up with that? WSL - windows subsystem for linux. What happened to all of the security advertising? Pretty sure 11 will have a new flavor of "let's make people rant, ooohhh there's Charlie."

                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                  • N Nick Polyak

                    What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

                    Nick Polyak

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                    Mike Hankey
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                    I too was hesitant but about 2-3 months ago I upgraded and so far it's been smooth sailing. Would I recommend it...Yes!

                    The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                    • N Nick Polyak

                      What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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                      obermd
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                      The only real issue I have with Windows 11 is that the Windows 10 start menu, which was highly customizable with regards to grouping and sizing, is gone. MS went the Apple route and eliminated all these features, making the start menu nearly useless.

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                        The only real issue I have with Windows 11 is that the Windows 10 start menu, which was highly customizable with regards to grouping and sizing, is gone. MS went the Apple route and eliminated all these features, making the start menu nearly useless.

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                        Mike Winiberg
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                        Explorer Patcher is your friend here... GitHub - valinet/ExplorerPatcher: This project aims to enhance the working environment on Windows[^]

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                        • N Nick Polyak

                          What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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                          Leo56
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                          Not if I have to buy a new PC to use it - and a new tablet for the better half, so NO. ;P

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                            What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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                            Member 9167057
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                            The start button is there. An important feature as far as I'm concerned would be docking the task bar to a side of the screen, that's still missing. I get the occasional AMD fTPM hiccups, waiting for the announced fix.

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                              What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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                              Paul Sanders the other one
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                              I'm using it, and the Start menu is a **vast** improvement over the horror that was Windows 10. It's actually genuinely useful, and all those ridiculous tiles are gone. It's still a bit buggy though. My pet peeves are: - when you click on the icon for a running app in the taskbar, it doesn't (usually) come to the front (this is really annoying) - when you launch an application, is sometimes doesn't come to the front (less annoying, but weird; related?) Other than that, it's fine. I do resent the fact that I had to buy (well, build) a new machine to run it though. Probably I could have snuck round that, but it didn't seem worth it. I don't want my primary development machine suddenly saying "shalln't" because MS have decided to pull the plug. Paul Sanders http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk

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                                What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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                                maze3
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                                new company laptop, so yes. Most hated part (because company laptop and although I could edit regisity, I'm resisting not do so) is no un-group task bar applications multiple broowser windows, multiple Visual Studio instances multiple windows explorer multiple excel windows i dont want to hover over to tab to switch window.

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                                  new company laptop, so yes. Most hated part (because company laptop and although I could edit regisity, I'm resisting not do so) is no un-group task bar applications multiple broowser windows, multiple Visual Studio instances multiple windows explorer multiple excel windows i dont want to hover over to tab to switch window.

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                                  maze3
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                                  while im ranting that the default taskbar is to middle I understand is beneficial from a Touch first design, but from mouse ui, and placement memory is bad. open new app, it shifts all the task bar items. Yes, Mac got away with it for decades, doenst mean shifting where app is for design sakes is good for user

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                                    You can't group icons in the start menu? :wtf: What braniac came up with that? WSL - windows subsystem for linux. What happened to all of the security advertising? Pretty sure 11 will have a new flavor of "let's make people rant, ooohhh there's Charlie."

                                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    charlieg wrote:

                                    "let's make people rant, ooohhh there's Charlie."

                                    New and shiny paranoia mode. :-)

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                      What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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                                      Member 2709101
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                                      This is all an "In my Opinion". Take it with a pinch of salt. I didn't like it. The new explorer context menu might look nice, but 95% of the options that I (as a developer) use are hidden behind the "show extras" link (or whatever it was called). This means that most of the time I use the file explorer, everything I do with it requires an extra click. It's incompatible with VMWare Workstation. I extensively use VMs on a day to day basis. The only way of getting it to work is to back off the number of cores to 1. All of my VMs use Chrome. Has anyone tried using Chrome on a single core? It's not pretty! The "fix" is to pay for an upgrade to VMWare. At this point, I rolled back to Windows 10, and I'm not intending to upgrade, until they fix at least those issues.

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                                        charlieg wrote:

                                        "let's make people rant, ooohhh there's Charlie."

                                        New and shiny paranoia mode. :-)

                                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                        charlieg
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                                        :thumbsup: :laugh:

                                        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                        • N Nick Polyak

                                          What would you advise? Is there a start button there in the Desktop mode? - yes, it is kind of important for me. Any important features lacking?

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                                          Joan M
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                                          It works very well for me. No issues so far. Only one annoying thing: if you right click a start menu icon it does not show the last opened documents in that application, you will have to open it first and then open your file.

                                          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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