Benefits of switching to Win11?
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
In the long term, support for Win 10 will cease in three years time (October 2025) ... so you will need to switch by then or lose security updates. Other than that, I see no pressing reason (and I'm using Win 11 on both my desktop and Surface) ... it's a bit "meah", unlike the Win 7 / Win 8 changes. Not a lot has improved from a user perspective, and some things have gone backwards.
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More data will be sent to Microsoft "for your benefit".
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den2k88 wrote:
More data will be sent to Microsoft "for your benefit".
:laugh: I'm sure this is true! My work laptop is overdue for replacement, and I've been added to the "Win11 test group" which will push me to the top of the replacement list, so I'll have an "opportunity" to test Win11 by late summer.
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In the long term, support for Win 10 will cease in three years time (October 2025) ... so you will need to switch by then or lose security updates. Other than that, I see no pressing reason (and I'm using Win 11 on both my desktop and Surface) ... it's a bit "meah", unlike the Win 7 / Win 8 changes. Not a lot has improved from a user perspective, and some things have gone backwards.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
OriginalGriff wrote:
In the long term, support for Win 10 will cease in three years time (October 2025) ... so you will need to switch by then or lose security updates.
According to MS, Win10 Enterprise LTSC 2019, which was released on 11/13/2018, has a mainstream end on 01/09/2024, and an extended end date of 01/09/2029. Given the hardware limitations, I'll be surprised if MS doesn't bend a bit on the end date for Win10, at least for Enterprise customers. I expect to replace my laptop sometime in the next 3.5 years, and by then MS will have worked out the defects in Win11, and/or third parties will have replacements available, e.g., I've been using Classic Shell to replace the Win10 menu. At this time, I'm not concerned.
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In the long term, support for Win 10 will cease in three years time (October 2025) ... so you will need to switch by then or lose security updates. Other than that, I see no pressing reason (and I'm using Win 11 on both my desktop and Surface) ... it's a bit "meah", unlike the Win 7 / Win 8 changes. Not a lot has improved from a user perspective, and some things have gone backwards.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
"Right now we're releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we're all still working on Windows 10." - former senior technical evangelist at Microsoft, Jerry Nixen, 2015. Oops.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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"Right now we're releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we're all still working on Windows 10." - former senior technical evangelist at Microsoft, Jerry Nixen, 2015. Oops.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
In terms of functionality, no there isn't a driving need to update to Windows 11. From a business perspective (assuming you have one), you'll need to support it when your customers start insisting on it. The benefit there is getting to keep the aforementioned customers.
Software Zen:
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
You will have to pay higher prices for games, according to this. Ching ching!!!
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
There's the rather obvious one about Win10 reaching EOS sooner than Win11. While that may also be a reason to not touch Win11 until Win10 actually nears it's EOS, I prefer taking care now and not later. WSL improvements are a huge boon. Browsing the guest file system from the host is invaluable when debugging in WSL (I do stuff which downloads external files to run them). Otherwise, there's no hard reason as far as I'm concerned. In theory, there's a ton of under-the-hood security improvements. I suppose I would care about that if I was enterprise IT.
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
Well, the multi monitor friendly features alone make it worth it. No more moving all windows back to their place when the laptop goes to sleep. If that is relevant to you, it's reason enough. Also it feels much more smooth. The whole UI experience improved quite a bit. The standard apps like explorer and notepad got noticeable improvements. Dark theme first class support too.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
Windows 11 has more adverts? MS needs more early adopters to iron out the bugs? Now that you have finally figured out where everything is in Windows 10, you miss the hours trying to find things that they have (re)moved for no obvious reason. You are tired of the same Windows 10 logo day after day. If you think your computer is running smoothly now then you should definitely try Windows 11, it will help point out all the bits that need upgrading (RAM, CPU, GPU, Storage etc).
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
Pros: - Settings app has been better filled-out: I rarely need to go find the old control panel and the new stuff works well - Win11 is noticeably snappier on the same hardware - new windows management - snapping windows to thirds or quarters or edges - and easily accessible from the "maximise" window button - better multi-monitor support (docking/undocking should restore windows to their prior positions; it feels like they did "different scaling on monitors" better - I've been leaving my laptop with the higher resolution (1440p) than my desktop monitors (1080p) and 150% scaling, and moving apps between screens works better - I don't have oddnesses as much any more. - improved Task Manager (personally, I'm used to Process Explorer, but I should try the new interface as a daily driver) - claims of better power management should make your laptop battery last a little longer - omg round corners on windows! ;P - moar animations (most are subtle enough not to be immediately noticeable though) :laugh: Cons: - you best be liking your taskbar on the bottom - consolidated network/sound/power button in the tray area takes some getting used to - I'm not entirely convinced that it's _worse_ but I'm not entirely convinced that it isn't - moar animations (animations may be bothersome to some people - but there are settings to reduce UI animation) overall, I prefer win11 over win10, but mostly because it feels a lot faster, on the same hardware
------------------------------------------------ If you say that getting the money is the most important thing You will spend your life completely wasting your time You will be doing things you don't like doing In order to go on living That is, to go on doing things you don't like doing Which is stupid. - Alan Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXTZM\_uPMY
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In terms of functionality, no there isn't a driving need to update to Windows 11. From a business perspective (assuming you have one), you'll need to support it when your customers start insisting on it. The benefit there is getting to keep the aforementioned customers.
Software Zen:
delete this;I support an ancient 32-bit application that does not work on Win11, so I'm feeling that bite. Thankfully we're less than 2 months from replacing it!
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Well, the multi monitor friendly features alone make it worth it. No more moving all windows back to their place when the laptop goes to sleep. If that is relevant to you, it's reason enough. Also it feels much more smooth. The whole UI experience improved quite a bit. The standard apps like explorer and notepad got noticeable improvements. Dark theme first class support too.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
I'm running 2 large external monitors and keep the laptop closed, as every time I open it, the screen layout gets frelled. Good multi-monitor support is a real benefit for me.
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Windows 11 has more adverts? MS needs more early adopters to iron out the bugs? Now that you have finally figured out where everything is in Windows 10, you miss the hours trying to find things that they have (re)moved for no obvious reason. You are tired of the same Windows 10 logo day after day. If you think your computer is running smoothly now then you should definitely try Windows 11, it will help point out all the bits that need upgrading (RAM, CPU, GPU, Storage etc).
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If you think your computer is running smoothly now then you should definitely try Windows 11, it will help point out all the bits that need upgrading (RAM, CPU, GPU, Storage etc).
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I'm running 2 large external monitors and keep the laptop closed, as every time I open it, the screen layout gets frelled. Good multi-monitor support is a real benefit for me.
Just do it then. Such a relief from this annoyance
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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Pros: - Settings app has been better filled-out: I rarely need to go find the old control panel and the new stuff works well - Win11 is noticeably snappier on the same hardware - new windows management - snapping windows to thirds or quarters or edges - and easily accessible from the "maximise" window button - better multi-monitor support (docking/undocking should restore windows to their prior positions; it feels like they did "different scaling on monitors" better - I've been leaving my laptop with the higher resolution (1440p) than my desktop monitors (1080p) and 150% scaling, and moving apps between screens works better - I don't have oddnesses as much any more. - improved Task Manager (personally, I'm used to Process Explorer, but I should try the new interface as a daily driver) - claims of better power management should make your laptop battery last a little longer - omg round corners on windows! ;P - moar animations (most are subtle enough not to be immediately noticeable though) :laugh: Cons: - you best be liking your taskbar on the bottom - consolidated network/sound/power button in the tray area takes some getting used to - I'm not entirely convinced that it's _worse_ but I'm not entirely convinced that it isn't - moar animations (animations may be bothersome to some people - but there are settings to reduce UI animation) overall, I prefer win11 over win10, but mostly because it feels a lot faster, on the same hardware
------------------------------------------------ If you say that getting the money is the most important thing You will spend your life completely wasting your time You will be doing things you don't like doing In order to go on living That is, to go on doing things you don't like doing Which is stupid. - Alan Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXTZM\_uPMY
Yeah, those rounded corners are such a selling feature, especially to tech people! :laugh: As mentioned above, multi-monitor support is worth while. Do 3rd party Start Menu replacements work? I used Open-Shell (now Classic-Shell) and need to check if it's been updated for Win11.
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I think he was talking about 32-bit Windows only. There is no 32-bit version of Windows 11. Also, Windows 11 is internally version 10.0.something :sigh:
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Regards UP
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
The benefits are fully on Microsoft's side: - preparing the full "as a Service" approach with yearly payments aka revenue with "digital license". - preparing for third party apps by getting user data. The support is as bad as it was in the past. Its no longer a professional OS that can be used to handle businesses.
Regards UP
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Yeah, those rounded corners are such a selling feature, especially to tech people! :laugh: As mentioned above, multi-monitor support is worth while. Do 3rd party Start Menu replacements work? I used Open-Shell (now Classic-Shell) and need to check if it's been updated for Win11.
I've heard that Start11 works, but, tbh, I hardly ever use the start menu - if you have a nice launcher like FlowLauncher, there's rarely ever a need for the Start Menu, and I can get to what I want quicker :thumbsup:
------------------------------------------------ If you say that getting the money is the most important thing You will spend your life completely wasting your time You will be doing things you don't like doing In order to go on living That is, to go on doing things you don't like doing Which is stupid. - Alan Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXTZM\_uPMY
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I follow discussions of Win11 here and on other forums, and so far I'm not seeing any pressing need to switch. I see drawbacks and hassles, but no counter-balancing benefits that push me to switch. What are the real benefits of Win11 over Win10?
What I find as a real CRIME is that in 3 years my Lenovo P50 workstation class computer will not have a supported OS I has a 6th generation i7 processor, 32GB Ram, 2 512GB SSDs, and a 4k display. What is to become of such a capable PC ?? I have windows 10 running on an old intel motherboard with a series 4 chipset with dual Core uP, 256GB SSD, 8GB ram, intel IGP driving a 1680 x 1050 monitor and it runs pretty well. Window 11 just can be that good or that needed to trash all the capable PC out there. Total BS!
