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  • C C P User 3

    So now I will experiment with a Refurbished Computer from eBay. It's on the way. My plans for moving the contents of this machine to the other one 1. Use an External USB Drive 2. On This machine, open a Command Line window 3. In that window do this...

    G:
    CD \
    MD WHATEVER
    CD \
    C:
    CD \
    XCOPY C: G:\WHATEVER /Q

    The two switches I'm wondering about are...

    /K Copies attributes. Normal Xcopy will reset read-only attributes.

    /J Copies using unbuffered I/O. Recommended for very large files.

    Seems like the "/K" switch would be the smart thing to do. As for the "/J" switch; I just don't know for sure. I probably haven't done this command in the past ten years, so I could be easily missing some important details Observations and/or Suggestions on this plan are welcome and invited

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    honey the codewitch
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    I was all excited. I thought you were talking about picking up an old NeXT Computer - Wikipedia[^]

    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      I was all excited. I thought you were talking about picking up an old NeXT Computer - Wikipedia[^]

      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      That's also what I thought. But I can't say that I got excited about it. To each his own. :-D

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      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

        That's also what I thought. But I can't say that I got excited about it. To each his own. :-D

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        I'm a nerd for certain retro tech I never got to play with. The NeXT is one of them. I also wouldn't mind tinkering with an Apple Lisa for a day, just to play with it.

        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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          I was all excited. I thought you were talking about picking up an old NeXT Computer - Wikipedia[^]

          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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          That's what I was thinking also. I remember when it came out, it was so cool...except the price tag! (And of course the Apple marketing strategy)

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            Take a look at Robocopy, which is the replacement for xcopy.

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            :thumbsup::thumbsup: We have been using it at work and so far didn't give us problems. But I have to admit that the largest file was below 1 Gb, so I can't speak about how it deals with big sizes... A sidedown... it might be slow.

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            • C C P User 3

              So now I will experiment with a Refurbished Computer from eBay. It's on the way. My plans for moving the contents of this machine to the other one 1. Use an External USB Drive 2. On This machine, open a Command Line window 3. In that window do this...

              G:
              CD \
              MD WHATEVER
              CD \
              C:
              CD \
              XCOPY C: G:\WHATEVER /Q

              The two switches I'm wondering about are...

              /K Copies attributes. Normal Xcopy will reset read-only attributes.

              /J Copies using unbuffered I/O. Recommended for very large files.

              Seems like the "/K" switch would be the smart thing to do. As for the "/J" switch; I just don't know for sure. I probably haven't done this command in the past ten years, so I could be easily missing some important details Observations and/or Suggestions on this plan are welcome and invited

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              I would not advice using an USB drive, but a network connection if possible (on older computers you might need a "cross cable") and one of these tools: apps-to-transfer-files-between-two-computers-in-lan[^] If you want to copy applications take a look at: apps-to-transfer-program-between-windows[^]

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                :thumbsup::thumbsup: We have been using it at work and so far didn't give us problems. But I have to admit that the largest file was below 1 Gb, so I can't speak about how it deals with big sizes... A sidedown... it might be slow.

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                The Robocopy /J option might help with large files.

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                  I would not advice using an USB drive, but a network connection if possible (on older computers you might need a "cross cable") and one of these tools: apps-to-transfer-files-between-two-computers-in-lan[^] If you want to copy applications take a look at: apps-to-transfer-program-between-windows[^]

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                  I don't recommend copying apps or settings. I've run into far too many situations where there was registry corruption and this just copied the registry corruption over to the new machine.

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                    The Robocopy /J option might help with large files.

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                    I know, but not personal experience with it... so I can't report about it :)

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      I would make a backup of the old drive (AOMEI Backupper, again) and either copy the backup file to the new drive, or to the USB. You can then either restore it to a new partition, or mount the backup as a virtual drive and copy and paste what you want where you want. XCOPY tends to fail if it can't copy a single file because it's in use, or hidden, or not yours, or ... just to be annoying sometimes and you won't necessarily now what files have copied OK. A backup will retain attributes and creating / modification dates as well.

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                      Hold it, I think that you, OriginalGriff, were thinking something similar but not identical, and I came across This... [**AOMEI Partition Assistant Standard**](https://www.diskpart.com/disk-transfer/copying-disk-freeware.html#toc.0.21535720867396413) Have you (or anyone else reading this) used AOMEI Partition Assistant Standard ? This looks like exactly what I want to do. i.e., I will be able to look and choose which previous files I want on my new machine, but the apps won't be active or automatically loaded into weird places of which I'm not aware (None dare call those things MalWare) This really looks astounding.

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                        [TeraCopy](https://www.codesector.com/teracopy) is awesome.

                        Cheers, Vikram.

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                        Thanks for the mention of TeraCopy. Haven't seen that program in years, and a ninety second glance shows me that it has become truly fantastic since I last had a copy on my machine. I agree, it's awesome.

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                          :thumbsup::thumbsup: We have been using it at work and so far didn't give us problems. But I have to admit that the largest file was below 1 Gb, so I can't speak about how it deals with big sizes... A sidedown... it might be slow.

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          Gary R Wheeler
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                          My experience has been that RoboCopy is much faster and far more robust than any other Windows file copying mechanism. The nightly backups on our build servers copy several multi-GB ZIP files, and I've never had a file size problem (some of the ZIP files are >10GB).

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                            My experience has been that RoboCopy is much faster and far more robust than any other Windows file copying mechanism. The nightly backups on our build servers copy several multi-GB ZIP files, and I've never had a file size problem (some of the ZIP files are >10GB).

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            theoldfool
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                            Agreed. We backup Virtual servers with Veeam, one is over 100GB. Script calls robocopy to copy the backups to removable for safekeeping and sends email with results of the backup, robocopy makes a nice log to attach to the email.

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                              I was all excited. I thought you were talking about picking up an old NeXT Computer - Wikipedia[^]

                              To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                              Vivi Chellappa
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                              I thought the same and was wondering what one could do with a computer that is over 25 years old and is unsupported.

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                                I thought the same and was wondering what one could do with a computer that is over 25 years old and is unsupported.

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                Actually given the way it was built, it probably wouldn't be entirely out of hand to get linux running on it.

                                To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                  I don't recommend copying apps or settings. I've run into far too many situations where there was registry corruption and this just copied the registry corruption over to the new machine.

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                                  A fresh install is best of course, but in some situations (missing install media etc.) it might be an option.

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                                    Hold it, I think that you, OriginalGriff, were thinking something similar but not identical, and I came across This... [**AOMEI Partition Assistant Standard**](https://www.diskpart.com/disk-transfer/copying-disk-freeware.html#toc.0.21535720867396413) Have you (or anyone else reading this) used AOMEI Partition Assistant Standard ? This looks like exactly what I want to do. i.e., I will be able to look and choose which previous files I want on my new machine, but the apps won't be active or automatically loaded into weird places of which I'm not aware (None dare call those things MalWare) This really looks astounding.

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                                    I've used it to "flex" partitions and make them bigger or smaller as needed - and it's worked beautifully for that. But I've not used it's "disk copy" functions at all.

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                      Hold it, I think that you, OriginalGriff, were thinking something similar but not identical, and I came across This... [**AOMEI Partition Assistant Standard**](https://www.diskpart.com/disk-transfer/copying-disk-freeware.html#toc.0.21535720867396413) Have you (or anyone else reading this) used AOMEI Partition Assistant Standard ? This looks like exactly what I want to do. i.e., I will be able to look and choose which previous files I want on my new machine, but the apps won't be active or automatically loaded into weird places of which I'm not aware (None dare call those things MalWare) This really looks astounding.

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                                      Have you thought of using Clonezilla? Very useful, very easy to use, and very free. Backs up a complete HD byte for byte including sectors not normally accessible to either a file or clones to another HD.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        I've used it to "flex" partitions and make them bigger or smaller as needed - and it's worked beautifully for that. But I've not used it's "disk copy" functions at all.

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                        C P User 3
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                                        Looked at it some more. Decided to take your original advice and used the AOMEI BackUpper (I think I spelled it okay) So, thanks for the suggestion. Good stuff. I'm still lusting after that Partition Assistant Standard. It's probably just a little bit too hi-tech for me at the moment; as, the last time I fiddled with individual disk sectors, the concept of "A Gigabyte" was firmly the domain of science fiction writers.

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                                          Have you thought of using Clonezilla? Very useful, very easy to use, and very free. Backs up a complete HD byte for byte including sectors not normally accessible to either a file or clones to another HD.

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                                          Never even heard the word before you put it on my screen for me. Wow ! Thanks ! Good Stuff !

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