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    That's why I'm totally against software like Keypass. Passwords have absolutely no place in the clipboard. And further, here I am with MS which meanwhile do not allow it for Windows login (e.g. via Teamviewer...).

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    I'd disagree - a password manager means that you can maintain strong, different passwords for each site without writing them down. I use one for "proper secure" sites (anything to do with money, basically), and let Chrome handle them for shopping and suchlike sites (including CP) where it's important to have a degree of security, but without needing to enter a password every time myself. And many of those secure sites are moving to Authenticators which require a fingerprint and phone which is a good thing.

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      I'd disagree - a password manager means that you can maintain strong, different passwords for each site without writing them down. I use one for "proper secure" sites (anything to do with money, basically), and let Chrome handle them for shopping and suchlike sites (including CP) where it's important to have a degree of security, but without needing to enter a password every time myself. And many of those secure sites are moving to Authenticators which require a fingerprint and phone which is a good thing.

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      Richard Andrew x64
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      Pardon the ignorance. What's an Authenticator? Do you mean dual factor authorization?

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        Pardon the ignorance. What's an Authenticator? Do you mean dual factor authorization?

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        englebart
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        Yes. Microsoft Authenticator, Google Authenticator, OKTA Authenticator, etc

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          That's why I'm totally against software like Keypass. Passwords have absolutely no place in the clipboard. And further, here I am with MS which meanwhile do not allow it for Windows login (e.g. via Teamviewer...).

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          englebart
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          KeePass also has the auto type feature that does not put it on the clipboard. There are Powershell scripts that can do the same.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Using Win 10 / Win 11? OK - try WINKEY+V It brings up a list of the last 25 things you copied to the clipboard. Useful! But in my case it includes several passwords to various systems. OK, all "unimportant" ones, but ... if I'd known it existed, I would have used the "Clear all" feature every time instead of CTRL+C to clear it out.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            jmaida
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            WINKEY+V brings up window asking to enable clipboard history. Seems for my box it's not defaulted on.

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              The clipboard is per-user. Are you worried someone who's already using your profile could find out your passwords by looking at your clipboard history?

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              Lost User
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              No it doesn't, because I have not enabled clipboard history.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Using Win 10 / Win 11? OK - try WINKEY+V It brings up a list of the last 25 things you copied to the clipboard. Useful! But in my case it includes several passwords to various systems. OK, all "unimportant" ones, but ... if I'd known it existed, I would have used the "Clear all" feature every time instead of CTRL+C to clear it out.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                Lost User
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                Not on my system, because I have not enabled clipboard history.

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                  That's why I'm totally against software like Keypass. Passwords have absolutely no place in the clipboard. And further, here I am with MS which meanwhile do not allow it for Windows login (e.g. via Teamviewer...).

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                  Lost User
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                  My password manager was written by me so I am happy that it is secure.

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                    KeePass also has the auto type feature that does not put it on the clipboard. There are Powershell scripts that can do the same.

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                    deepok1
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                    I agree

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                      KeePass also has the auto type feature that does not put it on the clipboard. There are Powershell scripts that can do the same.

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                      0x01AA
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                      Thank you very much. I will try that.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Using Win 10 / Win 11? OK - try WINKEY+V It brings up a list of the last 25 things you copied to the clipboard. Useful! But in my case it includes several passwords to various systems. OK, all "unimportant" ones, but ... if I'd known it existed, I would have used the "Clear all" feature every time instead of CTRL+C to clear it out.

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        What is this "WINKEY" of which you speak? ;)

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                          What is this "WINKEY" of which you speak? ;)

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          It's similar to a Smiley, but with only one eye.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            It's similar to a Smiley, but with only one eye.

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Arrr...

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Using Win 10 / Win 11? OK - try WINKEY+V It brings up a list of the last 25 things you copied to the clipboard. Useful! But in my case it includes several passwords to various systems. OK, all "unimportant" ones, but ... if I'd known it existed, I would have used the "Clear all" feature every time instead of CTRL+C to clear it out.

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                              Ron Anders
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                              I'm stubbornly running 7 because I can but you made my wife's day with this news as she has 10. :thumbsup:

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                Using Win 10 / Win 11? OK - try WINKEY+V It brings up a list of the last 25 things you copied to the clipboard. Useful! But in my case it includes several passwords to various systems. OK, all "unimportant" ones, but ... if I'd known it existed, I would have used the "Clear all" feature every time instead of CTRL+C to clear it out.

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                Paul Sanders the other one
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                                Yeah, just came across that myself. Killer feature. Paul Sanders http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk

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                                  That's why I'm totally against software like Keypass. Passwords have absolutely no place in the clipboard. And further, here I am with MS which meanwhile do not allow it for Windows login (e.g. via Teamviewer...).

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                                  KeePass, like any decent password manager with a "copy to clipboard" option, uses the Windows API to ensure that the password you copy doesn't get added to the clipboard history, and isn't included in the "roaming" clipboard history.


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                    The clipboard is per-user. Are you worried someone who's already using your profile could find out your passwords by looking at your clipboard history?

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                                    Mike Winiberg
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                                    On my win 10, clipboard history is turned off (apparently by default as I haven't - knowingly - turned it on).

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      Using Win 10 / Win 11? OK - try WINKEY+V It brings up a list of the last 25 things you copied to the clipboard. Useful! But in my case it includes several passwords to various systems. OK, all "unimportant" ones, but ... if I'd known it existed, I would have used the "Clear all" feature every time instead of CTRL+C to clear it out.

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                      Richard Deeming
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                                      Any decent password manager with a "copy to clipboard" option should be using the Windows.ApplicationModel.DataTransfer namespace to ensure that the password doesn't get added to the clipboard history, and doesn't synchronize with other computers logged in under your account. It's a bit of a pain to use from a non-store app, but it's not too bad: Windows 10 Clipboard Utilities · GitHub[^]


                                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        I'd disagree - a password manager means that you can maintain strong, different passwords for each site without writing them down. I use one for "proper secure" sites (anything to do with money, basically), and let Chrome handle them for shopping and suchlike sites (including CP) where it's important to have a degree of security, but without needing to enter a password every time myself. And many of those secure sites are moving to Authenticators which require a fingerprint and phone which is a good thing.

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                        Mike Winiberg
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                                        "Authenticators ... a good thing" Hmm, You appear to have fallen into the trap that many companies have: making the assumption that there is always a phone signal available (or even a fingerprint reader at that). Whilst that can apply to many, even here - 50 miles outside London - I struggle to get reliable broadband, and even more so to get any kind of reliable mobile signal (especially one that has data available). This less of an issue if there are alternatives for authentication (eg email, second factor based on knowledge, even a number one can ring or be rung on that isn't mobile), but there are plenty of companies out there that effectively cut you off if you do not have 24/7 fast broadband AND mobile services. Around 10% of the population have neither or do not/cannot use computers. They are being left behind by everyone, including their own government. Imagine the outcry if all muslims in the UK were refused access to government services because they were muslim (about 5% of the UK population is muslim) and yet approx 10% of our population is being excluded, slowly and surely, from government and other services that are only available to the fully connected and computer literate.

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                                          On my win 10, clipboard history is turned off (apparently by default as I haven't - knowingly - turned it on).

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                                          charlieg
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                                          Interesting, mine is enabled and I never knowingly turned it on.

                                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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