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Amarnath S

Oh yes. They want a laundry list of skill sets. Such an expertise exists only in ... Superman. 😀

PIEBALDconsult

Chuck Norris is a Python expert; he guts them with his pocket knife and makes a stew.

RickZeeland

A lot of people were disappointed that the "Python Cookbook" by O'Reilly did not contain any recipes on cooking Pythons :-\

OriginalGriff

I loved the ones I got in the early noughties asking for ten years C# experience ... :sigh:

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k5054

I remember ones from about '98 which were looking for at least 5 years of Java ...

Keep Calm and Carry On

OriginalGriff

Those ones were easy - I'd been drinking it for decades ... :-D

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Daniel Pfeffer

All the time. They often say as well that the company is a "dynamic, young, environment" - code for "those over 25 need not apply."

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FreedMalloc

And, if the position has the least thing to do with web development you will certainly need to be a "full stack" developer.

Gary R Wheeler

FreedMalloc wrote:

a "full stack" developer

I'm a full queue developer (works well with an overflowing schedule) and expect a full heap (of what-the-bull-leaves-in-the-field). Does that work?

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FreedMalloc

Quote:

what-the-bull-leaves-in-the-field

Which invokes an entirely different connotation of the term "full stack". And quite possibly more accurate. :D

Jacquers

Yes. For my previous job the list of requirements were quite long and included several technologies / platforms I hadn't worked with before. They are quite niche though, so they hire new people and allow then to learn the new tech. I think most reasonable companies would do this. Even for my most recent job that I started this month the list of requirements were quite long, even though I only use a subset of it. It seems the company wants people to have the extra skills just in case they are required. It can scare away potential candidates though. But I think you could probably still apply and tell them you are willing to learn new skills, languages, etc.

Sander Rossel

Yeah, and it's not just in IT either. I once bought a sandwich at the subway and they were looking for people to sell sandwiches. The advertisement made me feel unqualified and I have a master's degree :~ The following is a bit of an advertisement, but only because I'm really enthusiastic about this product and because it's a new way of job postings that I want everyone to know about :D I know a recovering recruiter who recently started a recruiter-free platform, Werken met .NET (Working with .NET): https://werkenmet.net/[^] (Dutch only I think). He was one of the few good recruiters who wasn't in it for the money, who read your profile and actually tried to get his client a job they'd like and companies a person they could use. Good as he was, he saw that recruiters are a blight upon this planet. When you want to check the job offers (vacatures) you'll have to answer a few questions to "prove" you're a developer (like "what's the default value of a boolean (0 / 1 / false / true)"). So on this new platform, companies can place job offers, but they have to answer a load of questions. The obvious ones, like "what stack do you use?" But also, "how do you use the stack?", "why are you looking?", "what will a typical work day look like?", "how often will a developer have to solve urgent bugs in production?", "can you describe your product and how the system works?" There are about 50 questions of which a few are mandatory (like salary range and pictures of the workplace). It's a pain to fill out (I know because I'm looking myself) and quite a lot to read, but as a developer you really know what you can expect from a company and so when you get an applicant you know they're really interested. Also, you can't pay to be the top dog, all job offers are equal. You can also use filters like size of the company, whether you want a startup or a mature company, etc. You can even browse companies that don't have any job offers at the moment so you can still see them and send them a message if you want to work there. All companies work with .NET and all companies that create an account are manually approved by the owner, so recruitment agencies or freelancers just looking for work need not apply (you can apply as a freelancer, just not as a company, but as a developer looking for work). For developers, an account is completely optional, you can still browse all companies and all job offers (but companie

realJSOP

The language is Snake, and you instantiate an object by calling its BoaConstructor.

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Marc Clifton

Amarnath S wrote:

Such an expertise exists only in ...

Hollywood. :laugh:

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Marc Clifton

I've taken to filtering out any job requirement that says "full stack developer." The disciplines of database, back-end, front-end, UI/UX, not to mention the frameworks / libraries / tools one uses are things that any professional company should know are best done by separate people, sometimes separate teams. And yes, of course one should be familiar enough with all aspects, but if you're not specialized in one (maybe two at most) and doing something that is going to be an enterprise web app, well, the result will be a mess across the board. And managers should know that, but sadly they don't. And what really gets me laughing is when the job description also includes CI, DevOps, AWS/Azure, and so forth. Again, familiarity yes, but expertise across the board? Give me break.

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obermd

This is exactly what happens. I remember seeing a job posting for a senior dotNet developer back in 2002. They wanted 5 years of dotNet experience on a system that had only be available, even in beta, for less than a year.

charlieg

All the time, don't let it get you down. Years ago, I had to hire a dev team for C/telecom development. Once I got it hired, they switched me to the manager of the DB team (only hired one of them). Funny, telecom team was excellent, the DB team had all the problem children. HR insisted we use this tool to generate job descriptions... it's elephant s***. It finally got down to doing very simple white board tests to just validate if the candidate really knew C. Mind you, not C++, inheritance, etc - just plain C. Does the candidate have any idea of computer architecture (like binary values). Question 1: what is the largest unsigned integer you can put in a byte? Candidate: Blank stare... Me: okay, so it's 2^8-1 right? 255. Follow? Candidate: Oh right, of course! Question 2: what is the largest unsigned integer you can put in a word? Candidate: excitedly, 510! :omg: :doh: Don't even get me started on the very simple pointer questions. There were candidates with either 5 years of experience after a degree or fresh MASTERS degrees in CS. So when I see a giant list of requirements, I see a company who really isn't serious.

Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

bryanren

Well, we can all be Rockstar developers - rockstar : home[^] "Rockstar is a computer programming language designed for creating programs that are also hair metal power ballads."

Jerry Thomson 2022

There are many opportunities but people don't get jobs due to not having an updated and well-written resume and do not prepare themselves for interviews. If you have a resume it's not updated so do resume editing otherwise your efforts will be wasted. Having a resume can make you able to get a job.