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Woo-hoo, Microsoft fixed a bug in Windows 11

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  • P Paul Sanders the other one

    I'm serious, they really did. And it was annoying me, so I'm pleased it's been attended to. It's the one where you click on an icon for a running app in the taskbar to bring it to the front and nothing happens. Since I used to do that all the time (and since I don't care for the Windows 10 / 11 Alt-Tab behaviour) it really disrupted my workflow. But no longer! Things are working again, happy days. Oh, 'what version am I running' did you say? No idea sorry, it's all 'agile updates' these days, innit.

    Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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    maze3
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    21h2 - i got a mix bag, some applications work some not. chrome - many processes, no double click excel - yes notepad++ yes outlook yes visual studio no

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    • P Paul Sanders the other one

      There are a lot of people who think they broke the taskbar generally, but since I don't want to move it anywhere it doesn't bother me personally. (I believe some other functionality also disappeared but I'm a bit hazy on the details.) The new start menu is a vast improvement, but I read the other day that MS might be planning to make it more W10-like (why must they keep tinkering with stuff that works?), which, if it happens, will send me screaming for the hills, because I *hated* it.

      Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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      The new start menu violates human interface 123. By this I mean that the ability to group items on the Windows 10 start menu worked in favor of those of us who spent the time to organize our start menu into groups of no more than two or three rows of fewer than five items per row. The human visual system can quickly pick (as in milliseconds) items in lists of up to five. We can double, and a few people can triple this by using two or three rows. Anything more than this requires we scan the contents to find the icon we're looking for. For those of us who are database designers, think index seek vs. table scan for performance. Windows 10 start menu could be configured for the index seek. Windows 11 start menu is the table scan.

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        The new start menu violates human interface 123. By this I mean that the ability to group items on the Windows 10 start menu worked in favor of those of us who spent the time to organize our start menu into groups of no more than two or three rows of fewer than five items per row. The human visual system can quickly pick (as in milliseconds) items in lists of up to five. We can double, and a few people can triple this by using two or three rows. Anything more than this requires we scan the contents to find the icon we're looking for. For those of us who are database designers, think index seek vs. table scan for performance. Windows 10 start menu could be configured for the index seek. Windows 11 start menu is the table scan.

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        Paul Sanders the other one
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        Hmmm, maybe. But you can type the first few characters of what you're looking for in the box, and I find that very cool.

        Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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          21h2 - i got a mix bag, some applications work some not. chrome - many processes, no double click excel - yes notepad++ yes outlook yes visual studio no

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          Paul Sanders the other one
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          Interesting, I'm not seeing that. What's wrong with VS (and what version are you using?). It (VS 2022) seems to have its fair share of bugs (grrrr), but I don't think any of them are W11-related.

          Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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          • P Paul Sanders the other one

            There are a lot of people who think they broke the taskbar generally, but since I don't want to move it anywhere it doesn't bother me personally. (I believe some other functionality also disappeared but I'm a bit hazy on the details.) The new start menu is a vast improvement, but I read the other day that MS might be planning to make it more W10-like (why must they keep tinkering with stuff that works?), which, if it happens, will send me screaming for the hills, because I *hated* it.

            Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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            RustyF
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            Well, I miss having the taskbar on the top, where it should be…, (Ducks for cover)

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              Well, I miss having the taskbar on the top, where it should be…, (Ducks for cover)

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              Paul Sanders the other one
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              I think it should be slap bang in the middle of the screen, covering everything else up ;P

              Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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              • P Paul Sanders the other one

                Hmmm, maybe. But you can type the first few characters of what you're looking for in the box, and I find that very cool.

                Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                Paul Sanders (the other one) wrote:

                But you can type the first few characters of what you're looking for in the box,

                When it works. For me it's a crapshoot, *sometimes* it'll immediately find cmd.exe, at other times I can wait a full minute with nothing happening...empty the text box, re-type it...and it'll either find it immediately or, again, nothing. Same with "control", which should bring up control panel. Same with tons of stuff I use 30 times a day. So, I tend to pin everything.

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                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                  The real news is that Microsoft actually fixed a bug! :omg: /snark

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  dandy72
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                  Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                  The real news is that Microsoft actually fixed a bug!

                  The question is, how many did they introduce while fixing this one?

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                    Paul Sanders (the other one) wrote:

                    But you can type the first few characters of what you're looking for in the box,

                    When it works. For me it's a crapshoot, *sometimes* it'll immediately find cmd.exe, at other times I can wait a full minute with nothing happening...empty the text box, re-type it...and it'll either find it immediately or, again, nothing. Same with "control", which should bring up control panel. Same with tons of stuff I use 30 times a day. So, I tend to pin everything.

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                    Paul Sanders the other one
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                    Curious, I don't get that. I wonder if there's some kind of database you can force it to rebuild or something. ----- Edit: Something like this, maybe (there look to be other similar links out there) [Windows 11 Start menu not working? Here's the fix! - Android Authority](https://www.androidauthority.com/windows-11-start-menu-not-working-3089615/#rebuild search index)

                    Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                    • P Paul Sanders the other one

                      Curious, I don't get that. I wonder if there's some kind of database you can force it to rebuild or something. ----- Edit: Something like this, maybe (there look to be other similar links out there) [Windows 11 Start menu not working? Here's the fix! - Android Authority](https://www.androidauthority.com/windows-11-start-menu-not-working-3089615/#rebuild search index)

                      Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                      dandy72
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                      I've been dealing with this since Win 8, at the very least.

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                      • D dandy72

                        I've been dealing with this since Win 8, at the very least.

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                        Paul Sanders the other one
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                        Could try this: [Stardock Start11: Restore the Classic Start Menu in Windows 10 and 11.](https://www.stardock.com/products/start11/) It costs pennies. I used to use Start10 and was very pleased with it.

                        Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                        • R RustyF

                          Well, I miss having the taskbar on the top, where it should be…, (Ducks for cover)

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                          Paul Sanders the other one
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                          Try this? [Stardock Start11: Restore the Classic Start Menu in Windows 10 and 11.](https://www.stardock.com/products/start11/) It's cheap enough and claims to do what you want.

                          Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                          • P Paul Sanders the other one

                            Could try this: [Stardock Start11: Restore the Classic Start Menu in Windows 10 and 11.](https://www.stardock.com/products/start11/) It costs pennies. I used to use Start10 and was very pleased with it.

                            Paul Sanders. Not that the story need be long, but it will take a long while to make it short - Henry David Thoreau Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                            dandy72
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                            I put Stardock on equal footing with Apple (and that's quite an accomplishment). They've rubbed me the wrong way decades ago and they'll never get a penny out of me.

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