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  • M Marc Clifton

    It is free, as in freedom. As in you have complete freedom not to partake in this great community. That said, I'll be more blunt. Wake up. Free and freedom are completely misunderstood, misused, and abused terms. It's a lot more productive to realize that everything is an agreement in one form or another. By participating in anything in life, you are constantly explicitly or implicitly agreeing to the terms of that interaction. If you don't agree, then don't participate. That is the only actual "freedom" you have. I guess philosophy is something nobody teaches anymore. :(

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    Lost User
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    Well that is disappointing. You've seen through the problem, understood its nature in detail .. and then decided that the existence of the problem proves that there is no problem.

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      I made an account here, and I saw that I have to have a logon email (I dont have email for privacy reasons, I just use tempmail services, how am I supposed to use this?), among many other issues, and it made me realize that CodeProject could avoid issues like this if it were free (as in freedom), and that CodeProject not being completely free (as in freedom) is odd considering that the first thing it says in the about page is "CodeProject was formed to allow developers to freely share their knowledge, code and ideas. We believe that by opening your code to others, by teaching those who are learning, and by sharing our daily experiences we all become better programmers.". So then why isn't CodeProject free? I know that there are some reprositories in its repository, but the general website isn't free (as in freedom), but that is still a big problem. I don't want to come off as just a annoying neckbeard linux fan (but you aren't a nerdy neckbeard if you just annoy people a lot, then you are an open source activist lol), but I just think that this is a cool service, and want to help improve it.

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      englebart
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      Some of the replies here are reminding me of Wart’s lessons on government from Merlin in TH White’s “The Once and Future King” which I read 45+ years ago.(it is a little foggy) The ants were pretty prescient.

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      • D dandy72

        Sometimes playing dumb is the best way to call out "these people". Their response typically paints a rather revealing picture of what it is they're after.

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        OriginalGriff
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        Bingo!

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        • F Free as in freedom

          I made an account here, and I saw that I have to have a logon email (I dont have email for privacy reasons, I just use tempmail services, how am I supposed to use this?), among many other issues, and it made me realize that CodeProject could avoid issues like this if it were free (as in freedom), and that CodeProject not being completely free (as in freedom) is odd considering that the first thing it says in the about page is "CodeProject was formed to allow developers to freely share their knowledge, code and ideas. We believe that by opening your code to others, by teaching those who are learning, and by sharing our daily experiences we all become better programmers.". So then why isn't CodeProject free? I know that there are some reprositories in its repository, but the general website isn't free (as in freedom), but that is still a big problem. I don't want to come off as just a annoying neckbeard linux fan (but you aren't a nerdy neckbeard if you just annoy people a lot, then you are an open source activist lol), but I just think that this is a cool service, and want to help improve it.

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          No, it should not be, which is why it isn't. When joining an established community, one must obey the rules of that community.

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          • F Free as in freedom

            I made an account here, and I saw that I have to have a logon email (I dont have email for privacy reasons, I just use tempmail services, how am I supposed to use this?), among many other issues, and it made me realize that CodeProject could avoid issues like this if it were free (as in freedom), and that CodeProject not being completely free (as in freedom) is odd considering that the first thing it says in the about page is "CodeProject was formed to allow developers to freely share their knowledge, code and ideas. We believe that by opening your code to others, by teaching those who are learning, and by sharing our daily experiences we all become better programmers.". So then why isn't CodeProject free? I know that there are some reprositories in its repository, but the general website isn't free (as in freedom), but that is still a big problem. I don't want to come off as just a annoying neckbeard linux fan (but you aren't a nerdy neckbeard if you just annoy people a lot, then you are an open source activist lol), but I just think that this is a cool service, and want to help improve it.

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            DRHuff
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            Would it help if Bob painted his face blue and wore a kilt? Freeeeeeedommmmm!!!!!

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            • pkfoxP pkfox

              Well said Pete :thumbsup:

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              jmaida
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              ditto

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              • F Free as in freedom

                I made an account here, and I saw that I have to have a logon email (I dont have email for privacy reasons, I just use tempmail services, how am I supposed to use this?), among many other issues, and it made me realize that CodeProject could avoid issues like this if it were free (as in freedom), and that CodeProject not being completely free (as in freedom) is odd considering that the first thing it says in the about page is "CodeProject was formed to allow developers to freely share their knowledge, code and ideas. We believe that by opening your code to others, by teaching those who are learning, and by sharing our daily experiences we all become better programmers.". So then why isn't CodeProject free? I know that there are some reprositories in its repository, but the general website isn't free (as in freedom), but that is still a big problem. I don't want to come off as just a annoying neckbeard linux fan (but you aren't a nerdy neckbeard if you just annoy people a lot, then you are an open source activist lol), but I just think that this is a cool service, and want to help improve it.

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                Super Lloyd
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                You're right, it's not free, as in you ain't free to be an asshole here. But it's free in other regards, like be a valuable resource that doesn't cost you a penny. Between you and me, nobody really like the freedom to be an asshole, you know.

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                • F Free as in freedom

                  I made an account here, and I saw that I have to have a logon email (I dont have email for privacy reasons, I just use tempmail services, how am I supposed to use this?), among many other issues, and it made me realize that CodeProject could avoid issues like this if it were free (as in freedom), and that CodeProject not being completely free (as in freedom) is odd considering that the first thing it says in the about page is "CodeProject was formed to allow developers to freely share their knowledge, code and ideas. We believe that by opening your code to others, by teaching those who are learning, and by sharing our daily experiences we all become better programmers.". So then why isn't CodeProject free? I know that there are some reprositories in its repository, but the general website isn't free (as in freedom), but that is still a big problem. I don't want to come off as just a annoying neckbeard linux fan (but you aren't a nerdy neckbeard if you just annoy people a lot, then you are an open source activist lol), but I just think that this is a cool service, and want to help improve it.

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                  Lost User
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                  To some (many?), freedom (as in freedom) means "no rules". That's not "improving" things.

                  "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    No email? How do you do anything without email? :~ Do you also not live in a house for privacy reasons?

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                    den2k88
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                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    Do you also not live in a house for privacy reasons?

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                    • L Lost User

                      Well that is disappointing. You've seen through the problem, understood its nature in detail .. and then decided that the existence of the problem proves that there is no problem.

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                      BryanFazekas
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                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      Well that is disappointing. You've seen through the problem, understood its nature in detail .. and then decided that the existence of the problem proves that there is no problem.

                      Um, no. The fact that the original premise is ridiculous indicates there is no problem -- except in the mind of OP. No one owes the OP anything. The rules of participation, which are far from onerous, are clear. Participate or not.

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                      • F Free as in freedom

                        I made an account here, and I saw that I have to have a logon email (I dont have email for privacy reasons, I just use tempmail services, how am I supposed to use this?), among many other issues, and it made me realize that CodeProject could avoid issues like this if it were free (as in freedom), and that CodeProject not being completely free (as in freedom) is odd considering that the first thing it says in the about page is "CodeProject was formed to allow developers to freely share their knowledge, code and ideas. We believe that by opening your code to others, by teaching those who are learning, and by sharing our daily experiences we all become better programmers.". So then why isn't CodeProject free? I know that there are some reprositories in its repository, but the general website isn't free (as in freedom), but that is still a big problem. I don't want to come off as just a annoying neckbeard linux fan (but you aren't a nerdy neckbeard if you just annoy people a lot, then you are an open source activist lol), but I just think that this is a cool service, and want to help improve it.

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                        Fletcher Johnson 2022
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                        Your concern is about giving out an email that can somehow be abused. Temp email IDs are good for some things but not all (as in this case.) One option you have is to purchase a domain - let's call it myfree.com. Now set up a "catchall" account - so any email sent to an email that ends with @myfree.com is received by that account. When you sign up at any site, use the site name as the recipient - so CodeProject@myfree.com. Or StackOverflow@myfree.com, etc. This has multiple benefits: 1) If a site makes your email available to others (intentionally or otherwise) - you can just block emails sent to that address. 2) If someone hacks the site and gets your email - see #1 3) You can always remember the email ID you used for a site. 4) Unless someone knows that you have a catchall account, no one will associate one email ID with another - especially if you don't set up a web site to go with it (or set up a fully bogus one to further confuse.) 5) You can especially use this for financial or similar sites. Then you know if you get an email sent to anything other than Chase@myfree.com it is definitely NOT from Chase bank. So this provides you with the benefits of the temp emails you like with the obscurity you desire (and some additional benefits too.) Just a thought.....

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                        • B BryanFazekas

                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          Well that is disappointing. You've seen through the problem, understood its nature in detail .. and then decided that the existence of the problem proves that there is no problem.

                          Um, no. The fact that the original premise is ridiculous indicates there is no problem -- except in the mind of OP. No one owes the OP anything. The rules of participation, which are far from onerous, are clear. Participate or not.

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                          Lost User
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                          You're welcome to move off of this planet if you want to live as a Ferengi.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Bingo!

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                            Lost User
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                            So you engaged with this person in a disingenuous way for a malicious purpose. I thought better of you, Griff.

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