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  • T Todd C Wilson

    John Aldrich wrote: I fail to understand why people even bother... ...to care about the rating system at all. It's totaly skewed, extremly corse-grain (why a 1? wording? layout? concept? I hate the author?), and lots of other reasons. Ignore the voting, and instead look at the total number of views (which counts repeated viewings) and postings. What would be VERY GOOD THING to put in INSTEAD of the voting would be how many people have bookmarked the page - that would be a MUCH better representation of "worthfullness". But I'm pissing into the wind here, since we've also got issues with a ton of non-active users and continually declining postings.


    Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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    I'm inclined to agree with you on the issue of views being a good indicator. What bugs me is the fact that people aren't posting. Out of 400+ page views, I've had no comments and 2 ratings of 3 or less. To me that's providing no feedback which could help me improve my article. I suppose it's a catch-22. I don't think your pissin' in the wind at all. I admin at a non-programming board and it a continual issue of declining posts. Could be just people starting to get bored with the web :confused:


    It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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      ... to rate articles poorly and fail to provide any explanation of why they rated them in that manner. It's fustrating to spend hours learning a method to do something, post code to help beginners such as myself out, and then be rated poorly and not have any explanation given. Take my article on Creating a Simple Property Sheet Based Wizard as an example. I provided a simple method do this based on my recent study into how to do it. True, it's not a -complete- guide to how to set up a fully functional wizard, but instead targetted at helping beginners actually get the damned thing to show up. There are plenty of articles on CodeProject and other sites that demonstrate the internals better than I could. I feel that by posting that article I'm offering up something to help beginners along based on my own personal experince. To check back on an article here and find lousy rating with no explanation is FUSTRATING. Granted I only rated my own article with a 3 ( since it's not a soup to nuts article ) I think that peopel should atleast justify their ratings and provide constructive critisism. I invite you to check the article out and offer up your constructive opinions.


      It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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      Brian Delahunty
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      Completely off topic.... Just wondering if you have Irish or Scottish ancestors?* *Aldrich is a Gaelic name as far as I can remember Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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        Completely off topic.... Just wondering if you have Irish or Scottish ancestors?* *Aldrich is a Gaelic name as far as I can remember Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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        John Aldrich
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        Well, theres a possibility. My great grandmother came over from England near the turn of the century. She had lived in Sittingbourne, Kent which to my knowledge is near Canterburry in England. Theres actually been discussion about it within the family. I always thought that Aldrich was a German name, which was my great-grandfathers name of course. I'd have to get into the geneology some more to figure it out. MIght be an interesting little side project


        It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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          Well, theres a possibility. My great grandmother came over from England near the turn of the century. She had lived in Sittingbourne, Kent which to my knowledge is near Canterburry in England. Theres actually been discussion about it within the family. I always thought that Aldrich was a German name, which was my great-grandfathers name of course. I'd have to get into the geneology some more to figure it out. MIght be an interesting little side project


          It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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          Aldrich is the English language spelling of Aldridge with is an Irish surname.. Maybe they are just the same spellings. hmmm... Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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            ... to rate articles poorly and fail to provide any explanation of why they rated them in that manner. It's fustrating to spend hours learning a method to do something, post code to help beginners such as myself out, and then be rated poorly and not have any explanation given. Take my article on Creating a Simple Property Sheet Based Wizard as an example. I provided a simple method do this based on my recent study into how to do it. True, it's not a -complete- guide to how to set up a fully functional wizard, but instead targetted at helping beginners actually get the damned thing to show up. There are plenty of articles on CodeProject and other sites that demonstrate the internals better than I could. I feel that by posting that article I'm offering up something to help beginners along based on my own personal experince. To check back on an article here and find lousy rating with no explanation is FUSTRATING. Granted I only rated my own article with a 3 ( since it's not a soup to nuts article ) I think that peopel should atleast justify their ratings and provide constructive critisism. I invite you to check the article out and offer up your constructive opinions.


            It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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            I try to take the rating on my articles with a grain of salt; some like them, some don't. -Nick Parker

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            • B Brian Delahunty

              Aldrich is the English language spelling of Aldridge with is an Irish surname.. Maybe they are just the same spellings. hmmm... Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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              Doing German lessons, Brian?! :-D -- - Free Windows-based CMS: www.zeta-software.de/enu/producer/freeware/download.html - See me: www.magerquark.de

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                Aldrich is the English language spelling of Aldridge with is an Irish surname.. Maybe they are just the same spellings. hmmm... Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                John Aldrich
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                :suss: That's got my interest heightened now. I think my aunt actually had at one time / or still has a partial geneological record of our family. She would probably know better than I do. What's funny is that I've been told by a fellow Irish friend of mine that I do have somewhat of an Irish temper. :-D


                It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                  I try to take the rating on my articles with a grain of salt; some like them, some don't. -Nick Parker

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                  John Aldrich
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                  I think what Chris shoudl really do is code something into the rating scripts that will not allow a rating to be posted without a explanation of why that rating was assigned. The reason why I say that is because to me, ratings and feedback are the primary validation of what I've provided to the community, and the feedback generated helps me improved. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse here, but thats the way I see it.


                  It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                    Doing German lessons, Brian?! :-D -- - Free Windows-based CMS: www.zeta-software.de/enu/producer/freeware/download.html - See me: www.magerquark.de

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                    Brian Delahunty
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                    Uwe Keim wrote: Doing German lessons, Brian?! hehe... nope.. not yet... I'll probably start soon though :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                      :suss: That's got my interest heightened now. I think my aunt actually had at one time / or still has a partial geneological record of our family. She would probably know better than I do. What's funny is that I've been told by a fellow Irish friend of mine that I do have somewhat of an Irish temper. :-D


                      It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                      Brian Delahunty
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                      John Aldrich wrote: Irish friend of mine that I do have somewhat of an Irish temper hehe... Irish Tempers are good :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                        I think what Chris shoudl really do is code something into the rating scripts that will not allow a rating to be posted without a explanation of why that rating was assigned. The reason why I say that is because to me, ratings and feedback are the primary validation of what I've provided to the community, and the feedback generated helps me improved. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse here, but thats the way I see it.


                        It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                        Good idea... John Aldrich wrote: I think what Chris shoudl really do is code something into the rating scripts that will not allow a rating to be posted without a explanation of why that rating was assigned. The reason why I say that is because to me, ratings and feedback are the primary validation of what I've provided to the community, and the feedback generated helps me improved. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse here, but thats the way I see it.

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                          John Aldrich wrote: Irish friend of mine that I do have somewhat of an Irish temper hehe... Irish Tempers are good :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                          It especially comes out after I've had a couple of Moling's which I'm SURE your familiar with ;)


                          It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                            Good idea... John Aldrich wrote: I think what Chris shoudl really do is code something into the rating scripts that will not allow a rating to be posted without a explanation of why that rating was assigned. The reason why I say that is because to me, ratings and feedback are the primary validation of what I've provided to the community, and the feedback generated helps me improved. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse here, but thats the way I see it.

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                            John Aldrich
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                            I think it would do alot of good. It'd make peopel atleast think before they blindly posted a rating.


                            It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                              I think what Chris shoudl really do is code something into the rating scripts that will not allow a rating to be posted without a explanation of why that rating was assigned. The reason why I say that is because to me, ratings and feedback are the primary validation of what I've provided to the community, and the feedback generated helps me improved. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse here, but thats the way I see it.


                              It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                              Brian Delahunty
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                              John Aldrich wrote: I think what Chris shoudl really do.... You should post it in the Suggestions forum... Good idea btw :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                ... to rate articles poorly and fail to provide any explanation of why they rated them in that manner. It's fustrating to spend hours learning a method to do something, post code to help beginners such as myself out, and then be rated poorly and not have any explanation given. Take my article on Creating a Simple Property Sheet Based Wizard as an example. I provided a simple method do this based on my recent study into how to do it. True, it's not a -complete- guide to how to set up a fully functional wizard, but instead targetted at helping beginners actually get the damned thing to show up. There are plenty of articles on CodeProject and other sites that demonstrate the internals better than I could. I feel that by posting that article I'm offering up something to help beginners along based on my own personal experince. To check back on an article here and find lousy rating with no explanation is FUSTRATING. Granted I only rated my own article with a 3 ( since it's not a soup to nuts article ) I think that peopel should atleast justify their ratings and provide constructive critisism. I invite you to check the article out and offer up your constructive opinions.


                                It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                                Wesner Moise
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                                I gave you a 1 because I though it was the best score!!! Just kidding. ;P Wes

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                                  It especially comes out after I've had a couple of Moling's which I'm SURE your familiar with ;)


                                  It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                                  Brian Delahunty
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                                  John Aldrich wrote: It especially comes out after I've had a couple of Moling's which I'm SURE your familiar with Meeeee.... familiar... never.... :~ Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                    John Aldrich wrote: I think what Chris shoudl really do.... You should post it in the Suggestions forum... Good idea btw :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                    Just did. :-D Coudl hurt to have something like that.


                                    It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                                      I gave you a 1 because I though it was the best score!!! Just kidding. ;P Wes

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                                      :wtf: *eyes glaze over in zombie like state* Must.....KILL......Wesner! :-D


                                      It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                                        John Aldrich wrote: It especially comes out after I've had a couple of Moling's which I'm SURE your familiar with Meeeee.... familiar... never.... :~ Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                        John Aldrich
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                                        It's kind of like a less bitter version of Guiness. It's really good. My local bartender just started ordering it because someone else requested it.


                                        It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                                          It's kind of like a less bitter version of Guiness. It's really good. My local bartender just started ordering it because someone else requested it.


                                          It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                                          Brian Delahunty
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                                          Never even heard of it.... you find Guinness Bitter.... Lightweight.. ;P ;P Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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