Laptop OS Upgrade
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The big question is whether Win11 is officially supported on your laptop. If it isn't, I would go with Win10. You have 2-3 years of support remaining, and in that time either MS may expand their Win11 support, or you may decide to replace your laptop. My personal preference when performing a major version upgrade is to install everything from scratch.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
The big question is whether Win11 is officially supported on your laptop.
Updated my thread on that. Thanks.
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8 year old Laptop has Windows 8.1 now. Need to upgrade this yearend, Windows 8.1 support ends during that time. How's Windows 11? Stable enough? Initially thought of upgrading to Windows 10. But Support for 10 ends with 2025. Your opinions please. Thanks in advance! EDIT
I'm going to upgrade my laptop with SSD due to slowness recently. So it's possible for new OS. Also installation from scratch.
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thatraja wrote:
8 year old Laptop
Have you checked that the hardware (CPU, TPM level) is sufficient to run Windows 11? Lots of 8 year old machines (including mine, with a CPU that was just released when I bought it) can not run Win 11. On the other hand: 'End of support' does not make the machine unusable, just that the OS code itself will not be updated to protect against future security attacks. ('Support' could also add functional extensions - but there is not much of that nine years after its release!) Virus/malware protection software is still updated. We are talking about new threats. How many attackers make new attack software aimed at Win95 these days? Win98? Win XP? Win 7? ... For Win 7, there might be, although I doubt it. I honestly doubt it for 8.1 as well. For Win 10, I would not be surprised by new attacks this year or next year. The more MS succeeds in moving users over to Win 11, the less it pays back for attackers to target Win 10. I continue running Win 10 without very much worries. I am well behaved on the Internet: I do not download pirated software. I do not visit xxx sites. I do not respond to the 6-10 daily 'special offers' in my inbox (the last week, there has been four every day for McAfee virus protection!) Last time I saw a virus - that was not stopped at the door - on my machines was a floppy boot sector virus (and it was on a 5.25" floppy). If you go for Win 10, note that mainstream support has already ended. If you want support until 2025, you have to buy the Enterprise version. (Can you still buy it?) New laptops are not that expensive, so maybe the best solution for you would be to buy a new laptop, and continue using the old one for non-internet tasks.
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8 year old Laptop has Windows 8.1 now. Need to upgrade this yearend, Windows 8.1 support ends during that time. How's Windows 11? Stable enough? Initially thought of upgrading to Windows 10. But Support for 10 ends with 2025. Your opinions please. Thanks in advance! EDIT
I'm going to upgrade my laptop with SSD due to slowness recently. So it's possible for new OS. Also installation from scratch.
thatraja
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thatraja wrote:
I'm going to upgrade my laptop with SSD due to slowness recently
A new laptop is likely to have an M.2 main disk, which is yet another significant speed update from the old style SATA SSDs. My 2014 vintage mainboard (desktop, not portable) has an M.2 socked, but didn't get an M.2 disk to go with in until a month ago. Eight years ago, M.2 was fairly new, so I wouldn't take for granted that a portable is prepared for it, but check it up, and if the machine can handle it, select an M.2.
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thatraja wrote:
8 year old Laptop
Have you checked that the hardware (CPU, TPM level) is sufficient to run Windows 11? Lots of 8 year old machines (including mine, with a CPU that was just released when I bought it) can not run Win 11. On the other hand: 'End of support' does not make the machine unusable, just that the OS code itself will not be updated to protect against future security attacks. ('Support' could also add functional extensions - but there is not much of that nine years after its release!) Virus/malware protection software is still updated. We are talking about new threats. How many attackers make new attack software aimed at Win95 these days? Win98? Win XP? Win 7? ... For Win 7, there might be, although I doubt it. I honestly doubt it for 8.1 as well. For Win 10, I would not be surprised by new attacks this year or next year. The more MS succeeds in moving users over to Win 11, the less it pays back for attackers to target Win 10. I continue running Win 10 without very much worries. I am well behaved on the Internet: I do not download pirated software. I do not visit xxx sites. I do not respond to the 6-10 daily 'special offers' in my inbox (the last week, there has been four every day for McAfee virus protection!) Last time I saw a virus - that was not stopped at the door - on my machines was a floppy boot sector virus (and it was on a 5.25" floppy). If you go for Win 10, note that mainstream support has already ended. If you want support until 2025, you have to buy the Enterprise version. (Can you still buy it?) New laptops are not that expensive, so maybe the best solution for you would be to buy a new laptop, and continue using the old one for non-internet tasks.
Recently fixed display issue by replacing Display after visiting service centre. They suggested me to upgrade OS after they too found slowness. They came up with SSD upgrade thing since my old drive can't have new OS upgrades. Additionally I'll be increasing RAM too. I'm totally aware of "End of support" & "Threats" things & also get it. Agree with you. I'm also well behaved on the Internet. Last 8+ years, never faced any major or medium issues. Defender, Spybot SD, BleachBit, Host files, etc., 're keeping things better at least normal. Only for last 1 year I'm facing slowness(during Development only) with my current laptop. Both SSD & RAM upgrades could solve this issue. That's why I'm postponing new laptop(After couple of years, I'll buy new laptop with more high config). BTW I have office laptop too & Both laptop already taking more spaces, so no more space for new laptops.
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8 year old Laptop has Windows 8.1 now. Need to upgrade this yearend, Windows 8.1 support ends during that time. How's Windows 11? Stable enough? Initially thought of upgrading to Windows 10. But Support for 10 ends with 2025. Your opinions please. Thanks in advance! EDIT
I'm going to upgrade my laptop with SSD due to slowness recently. So it's possible for new OS. Also installation from scratch.
thatraja
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Put Linux on it
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Put Linux on it
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
Right now I can't. I have many softwares(both FREE & Paid) which are Windows only thing. But I'm planning Linux for my new laptop in future.
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8 year old Laptop has Windows 8.1 now. Need to upgrade this yearend, Windows 8.1 support ends during that time. How's Windows 11? Stable enough? Initially thought of upgrading to Windows 10. But Support for 10 ends with 2025. Your opinions please. Thanks in advance! EDIT
I'm going to upgrade my laptop with SSD due to slowness recently. So it's possible for new OS. Also installation from scratch.
thatraja
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The big question is whether Win11 is officially supported on your laptop. If it isn't, I would go with Win10. You have 2-3 years of support remaining, and in that time either MS may expand their Win11 support, or you may decide to replace your laptop. My personal preference when performing a major version upgrade is to install everything from scratch.
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8 year old Laptop has Windows 8.1 now. Need to upgrade this yearend, Windows 8.1 support ends during that time. How's Windows 11? Stable enough? Initially thought of upgrading to Windows 10. But Support for 10 ends with 2025. Your opinions please. Thanks in advance! EDIT
I'm going to upgrade my laptop with SSD due to slowness recently. So it's possible for new OS. Also installation from scratch.
thatraja
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Have you used the system compatibility checker for Win11? If not, you should as Win11 requires some newish bios features like "secure boot" On my system, which is relatively new, I had to go into the UEFI settings and enable secure boot before it would accept win11. This is the first machine I've owned that even had that option.
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thatraja wrote:
8 year old Laptop
Have you checked that the hardware (CPU, TPM level) is sufficient to run Windows 11? Lots of 8 year old machines (including mine, with a CPU that was just released when I bought it) can not run Win 11. On the other hand: 'End of support' does not make the machine unusable, just that the OS code itself will not be updated to protect against future security attacks. ('Support' could also add functional extensions - but there is not much of that nine years after its release!) Virus/malware protection software is still updated. We are talking about new threats. How many attackers make new attack software aimed at Win95 these days? Win98? Win XP? Win 7? ... For Win 7, there might be, although I doubt it. I honestly doubt it for 8.1 as well. For Win 10, I would not be surprised by new attacks this year or next year. The more MS succeeds in moving users over to Win 11, the less it pays back for attackers to target Win 10. I continue running Win 10 without very much worries. I am well behaved on the Internet: I do not download pirated software. I do not visit xxx sites. I do not respond to the 6-10 daily 'special offers' in my inbox (the last week, there has been four every day for McAfee virus protection!) Last time I saw a virus - that was not stopped at the door - on my machines was a floppy boot sector virus (and it was on a 5.25" floppy). If you go for Win 10, note that mainstream support has already ended. If you want support until 2025, you have to buy the Enterprise version. (Can you still buy it?) New laptops are not that expensive, so maybe the best solution for you would be to buy a new laptop, and continue using the old one for non-internet tasks.
trønderen wrote:
Have you checked that the hardware (CPU, TPM level) is sufficient to run Windows 11? Lots of 8 year old machines (including mine, with a CPU that was just released when I bought it) can not run Win 11.
Those requirements are such BS. I have a VM host that cannot run Win11. However, I can create a Hyper-V VM on it and have it run Windows 11 with no problem or nasty hack.
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Right now I can't. I have many softwares(both FREE & Paid) which are Windows only thing. But I'm planning Linux for my new laptop in future.
thatraja
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8 year old Laptop has Windows 8.1 now. Need to upgrade this yearend, Windows 8.1 support ends during that time. How's Windows 11? Stable enough? Initially thought of upgrading to Windows 10. But Support for 10 ends with 2025. Your opinions please. Thanks in advance! EDIT
I'm going to upgrade my laptop with SSD due to slowness recently. So it's possible for new OS. Also installation from scratch.
thatraja
Coming soon1 | Coming soon2 | Coming soon3New
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8 year old Laptop has Windows 8.1 now. Need to upgrade this yearend, Windows 8.1 support ends during that time. How's Windows 11? Stable enough? Initially thought of upgrading to Windows 10. But Support for 10 ends with 2025. Your opinions please. Thanks in advance! EDIT
I'm going to upgrade my laptop with SSD due to slowness recently. So it's possible for new OS. Also installation from scratch.
thatraja
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No do not update your PC (it can actually be worse depending on hardware). Windows OS is optimized well around a particularly gen of hardware. Win11 will not work anyway on old stuff & Win10 drivers may end up going through compatibility layers slowing stuff down. Win10 thread scheduler, ram usage, etc, etc may also be less suited for your older PC hardware. Unless you're installing p*rn, fake flash players, etc you're not going to run into anything of concern. Half these security scares in hardware as well I feel are almost excuses to slow things down pushing you to upgrade & spend $$$ to solve problems you will never face. Like anything, car, TV, console, treat your computer with care and it will continue to function well the way it was designed to with the original OS that aligns with its hardware gen. I have tons of very hardware ranging from low-mid-high tier from 80s-2022. I stand by what I'm saying from experience with that array of hardware I have.
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No do not update your PC (it can actually be worse depending on hardware). Windows OS is optimized well around a particularly gen of hardware. Win11 will not work anyway on old stuff & Win10 drivers may end up going through compatibility layers slowing stuff down. Win10 thread scheduler, ram usage, etc, etc may also be less suited for your older PC hardware. Unless you're installing p*rn, fake flash players, etc you're not going to run into anything of concern. Half these security scares in hardware as well I feel are almost excuses to slow things down pushing you to upgrade & spend $$$ to solve problems you will never face. Like anything, car, TV, console, treat your computer with care and it will continue to function well the way it was designed to with the original OS that aligns with its hardware gen. I have tons of very hardware ranging from low-mid-high tier from 80s-2022. I stand by what I'm saying from experience with that array of hardware I have.
