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  • J John Aldrich

    I think what Chris shoudl really do is code something into the rating scripts that will not allow a rating to be posted without a explanation of why that rating was assigned. The reason why I say that is because to me, ratings and feedback are the primary validation of what I've provided to the community, and the feedback generated helps me improved. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse here, but thats the way I see it.


    It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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    Brian Delahunty
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    John Aldrich wrote: I think what Chris shoudl really do.... You should post it in the Suggestions forum... Good idea btw :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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      ... to rate articles poorly and fail to provide any explanation of why they rated them in that manner. It's fustrating to spend hours learning a method to do something, post code to help beginners such as myself out, and then be rated poorly and not have any explanation given. Take my article on Creating a Simple Property Sheet Based Wizard as an example. I provided a simple method do this based on my recent study into how to do it. True, it's not a -complete- guide to how to set up a fully functional wizard, but instead targetted at helping beginners actually get the damned thing to show up. There are plenty of articles on CodeProject and other sites that demonstrate the internals better than I could. I feel that by posting that article I'm offering up something to help beginners along based on my own personal experince. To check back on an article here and find lousy rating with no explanation is FUSTRATING. Granted I only rated my own article with a 3 ( since it's not a soup to nuts article ) I think that peopel should atleast justify their ratings and provide constructive critisism. I invite you to check the article out and offer up your constructive opinions.


      It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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      Wesner Moise
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      I gave you a 1 because I though it was the best score!!! Just kidding. ;P Wes

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      • J John Aldrich

        It especially comes out after I've had a couple of Moling's which I'm SURE your familiar with ;)


        It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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        Brian Delahunty
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        John Aldrich wrote: It especially comes out after I've had a couple of Moling's which I'm SURE your familiar with Meeeee.... familiar... never.... :~ Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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          John Aldrich wrote: I think what Chris shoudl really do.... You should post it in the Suggestions forum... Good idea btw :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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          John Aldrich
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          Just did. :-D Coudl hurt to have something like that.


          It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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            I gave you a 1 because I though it was the best score!!! Just kidding. ;P Wes

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            John Aldrich
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            :wtf: *eyes glaze over in zombie like state* Must.....KILL......Wesner! :-D


            It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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              John Aldrich wrote: It especially comes out after I've had a couple of Moling's which I'm SURE your familiar with Meeeee.... familiar... never.... :~ Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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              John Aldrich
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              It's kind of like a less bitter version of Guiness. It's really good. My local bartender just started ordering it because someone else requested it.


              It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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              • J John Aldrich

                It's kind of like a less bitter version of Guiness. It's really good. My local bartender just started ordering it because someone else requested it.


                It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                Brian Delahunty
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                Never even heard of it.... you find Guinness Bitter.... Lightweight.. ;P ;P Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                • B Brian Delahunty

                  Completely off topic.... Just wondering if you have Irish or Scottish ancestors?* *Aldrich is a Gaelic name as far as I can remember Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                  Venet
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                  Changing the topic again? OMG!!!! :) Regards, Venet. Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

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                    Never even heard of it.... you find Guinness Bitter.... Lightweight.. ;P ;P Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                    John Aldrich
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                    Eh, what can I say? I'm spoiled on American beers. Bud Light, Though I drink Killian's Red from time to time ;)


                    It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                    • J John Aldrich

                      I think what Chris shoudl really do is code something into the rating scripts that will not allow a rating to be posted without a explanation of why that rating was assigned. The reason why I say that is because to me, ratings and feedback are the primary validation of what I've provided to the community, and the feedback generated helps me improved. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse here, but thats the way I see it.


                      It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                      Good idea. -Nick Parker

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                      • V Venet

                        Changing the topic again? OMG!!!! :) Regards, Venet. Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

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                        John Aldrich
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                        Our god in heaven -- Forum be thy name Thy kingdom come, changed topic of one in post as it is in response ;P


                        It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                        • V Venet

                          Changing the topic again? OMG!!!! :) Regards, Venet. Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

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                          Brian Delahunty
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                          Venet wrote: Changing the topic again? OMG!!!! Ah.. Sher you know me... always trying my best. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                          • J John Aldrich

                            Our god in heaven -- Forum be thy name Thy kingdom come, changed topic of one in post as it is in response ;P


                            It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                            Venet
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                            John Aldrich wrote: Our god in heaven -- Forum be thy name Thy kingdom come, changed topic of one in post as it is in response What? :confused: Regards, Venet. Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

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                            • J John Aldrich

                              Eh, what can I say? I'm spoiled on American beers. Bud Light, Though I drink Killian's Red from time to time ;)


                              It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                              Brian Delahunty
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                              John Aldrich wrote: Killian's Red Never heard of that either... Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                I think it would do alot of good. It'd make peopel atleast think before they blindly posted a rating.


                                It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                                Some people post without commenting because they are in reality too shy to come out in the open and say "This is wrong. I think you should do [--] like that." Maybe it should even be possible to post anonymous comments with the rating. (Okay I know it's possible to post anonymously anyway) But that it doesn't say who says whatever, but shows up in the same way as a vote. Not sure if anyone can follow that - it's a bit rambly... I'll re-explain if necessary. Paul ;) Computers let you make more mistakes than any other invention in history...with the possible exception of handguns and tequila.

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                                  I think what Chris shoudl really do is code something into the rating scripts that will not allow a rating to be posted without a explanation of why that rating was assigned. The reason why I say that is because to me, ratings and feedback are the primary validation of what I've provided to the community, and the feedback generated helps me improved. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead horse here, but thats the way I see it.


                                  It's good to see kids turning their minds to wholesum activities such as programming, instead of wasting their lives in the hedonistic disciplines of Sex, Drugs, & Rock & Roll... or Sex with Drugs, or Sex with Rocks while Rolling in Drugs, or whatever new-fangled perversions you little monsters have thought up now... [Shog9 on Kid Programmers]

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                                  Jack Puppy
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                                  How about a more detailed rating system? Instead of a generic 1-5 rating, break it into segments that are worth 1-5 each. 1) Content (How thorough is the article content) 2) Comprehension (How easy is the article to understand) 3) Functionality (How well did the code/ideas in article work) etc.


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                                    Some people post without commenting because they are in reality too shy to come out in the open and say "This is wrong. I think you should do [--] like that." Maybe it should even be possible to post anonymous comments with the rating. (Okay I know it's possible to post anonymously anyway) But that it doesn't say who says whatever, but shows up in the same way as a vote. Not sure if anyone can follow that - it's a bit rambly... I'll re-explain if necessary. Paul ;) Computers let you make more mistakes than any other invention in history...with the possible exception of handguns and tequila.

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                                    Paul van der Walt wrote: Maybe it should even be possible to post anonymous comments with the rating. (Okay I know it's possible to post anonymously anyway) But that it doesn't say who says whatever, but shows up in the same way as a vote. Then you will get anonymous posts with messages that say '1' or 'This sucks' or something helpful like that.


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                                    • B Brian Delahunty

                                      Venet wrote: Changing the topic again? OMG!!!! Ah.. Sher you know me... always trying my best. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                      Brian Delahunty wrote: Ah.. Sher you know me... even types in Irish... :-D


                                      Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams

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                                        John Aldrich wrote: I fail to understand why people even bother... ...to care about the rating system at all. It's totaly skewed, extremly corse-grain (why a 1? wording? layout? concept? I hate the author?), and lots of other reasons. Ignore the voting, and instead look at the total number of views (which counts repeated viewings) and postings. What would be VERY GOOD THING to put in INSTEAD of the voting would be how many people have bookmarked the page - that would be a MUCH better representation of "worthfullness". But I'm pissing into the wind here, since we've also got issues with a ton of non-active users and continually declining postings.


                                        Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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                                        Todd C. Wilson wrote: But I'm pissing into the wind here Only if you have an issue or suggestion and don't bother emailing me about it. I can't promise to act on it immediately but I can promise to read it and take it into account. You tell me what you think is the best indication of an articles worth, as well as a way to accurately gather that information. The 'Most popular articles[^]' has a few options - let me know which is the best for you and I can experiment. That goes for everyone else too. I'm not sure why you care about members who choose only to get the newsltter and not actively post messages and articles. I also am confused about your comment about reduced postings. How do you mean? Here's some stats:

                                        Page views
                                        Jun 03 14,144,098 (so far)
                                        May 03 14,156,221
                                        Apr 03 13,468,113

                                        Articles posted and updated:

                                        Jun 03: 234	(so far)
                                        May 03: 253	
                                            Apr 03:	185	
                                        

                                        Messages Posted:

                                        Jun 03  25953	(so far)
                                        May 03  25025	
                                            Apr 03	24440	
                                        

                                        The numbers certainly fluctuate seasionally but I don't see any drop off :confused: cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                          Completely off topic.... Just wondering if you have Irish or Scottish ancestors?* *Aldrich is a Gaelic name as far as I can remember Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                          Sounds a little germanic to me, but I could be talking a load of Bill Sergio :rolleyes: Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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