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    Mysterious whale swims around augmented reality. (6)

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      Mysterious whale swims around augmented reality. (6)

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      Arcane? Whale (cane) swims around AR?

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        Arcane? Whale (cane) swims around AR?

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        Well done. YAUT.

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          Arcane? Whale (cane) swims around AR?

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          What's the whale <-> cane connection?

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            What's the whale <-> cane connection?

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            Apparently there is whale cane - I thought it was arcane purely because it has the the rca from orca in it and ar - but I've done one this week

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              What's the whale <-> cane connection?

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              I think it's "to whale away at someone" = thrash = cane. Rather tenuous IMO.

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                What's the whale <-> cane connection?

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                The last two cryptograph clues were not Ximenean at all, I had Dilatory on my list yesterday but removed it early on because Tory doesn't mean politician. And today we get Whale which is a slang term. Whale[^] Cane[^]

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                  The last two cryptograph clues were not Ximenean at all, I had Dilatory on my list yesterday but removed it early on because Tory doesn't mean politician. And today we get Whale which is a slang term. Whale[^] Cane[^]

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                  In the UK members of the Conservative Party are known as Tories. Hence a Tory is a politician.

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                    The last two cryptograph clues were not Ximenean at all, I had Dilatory on my list yesterday but removed it early on because Tory doesn't mean politician. And today we get Whale which is a slang term. Whale[^] Cane[^]

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                    Yes I was pushing it a bit with tory but the other part was Ximenean, I've never heard of whale being synonymous with cane though.

                    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                      In the UK members of the Conservative Party are known as Tories. Hence a Tory is a politician.

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                      ...as is a holder of conservative principles, or a supporter of the British cause during the American revolution. I get the link but not all Tories are politicians by any means. Never come across "whale" in that sense, either. But we live and learn - that's one of the things I enjoy about the daily CCC! :)

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                        I think it's "to whale away at someone" = thrash = cane. Rather tenuous IMO.

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                        Arcane, even. :laugh:

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                          ...as is a holder of conservative principles, or a supporter of the British cause during the American revolution. I get the link but not all Tories are politicians by any means. Never come across "whale" in that sense, either. But we live and learn - that's one of the things I enjoy about the daily CCC! :)

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                          DerekT-P wrote:

                          but not all Tories are politicians

                          Quite true; but I was trying to keep things simple. I just looked up whale in Chambers and it gives: whale (vt) to thrash violently.

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                            Mysterious whale swims around augmented reality. (6)

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                            Well, I seemed to have caused quite a stir! :-D It would appear I got a little too cute setting my clue. I will admit to the tenuocity (hey, if I'm going to set an improper clue I might as well use an improper word too) of the whale-cane connection. It seemed OK when I thought it up but upon reading the above I stand corrected. It seems I was assuming some equality property of synonyms (whale can mean beat, cane can mean beat, so obviously whale can mean cane - and vice versa :|) Actually, to me, cane can mean to beat, but it implies a stick is involved, whereas whale has more of a Chuck Norris connotation. I've read several articles on Ximenean crossword rules. I've read the rules, I understand the words in the rules but not always how to apply them. It's like telling my sister that addition is commutative. She'll accept that statement as true but has no idea what it means or how it's applied. So, like today whale-cane: not Ximenean. Agreed. Too far apart in meaning making it an unfair clue. Yesterday's clue: politician-tory also not Ximenean. Not sure why. A Tory can be but not necessarily is a politician; a politician can be but not necessarily is a Tory. I started down my arcane clue path using a staff-cane connection. I've seen that used in clues a few times, once even here on CP I think. Is that Ximenean? Based on observation I'd say no. What would be? Anyway, I'm not going to let fear of Ximenes stop me from trying. I do believe I'm failing better now. As Derek says, live and learn. Also, thanks for all the discussion, it will help me out in the future (maybe you too if and when I next set one :rolleyes: ). Eleven guys and a barcode standard. (8) Ximenean? :laugh:

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                              Well, I seemed to have caused quite a stir! :-D It would appear I got a little too cute setting my clue. I will admit to the tenuocity (hey, if I'm going to set an improper clue I might as well use an improper word too) of the whale-cane connection. It seemed OK when I thought it up but upon reading the above I stand corrected. It seems I was assuming some equality property of synonyms (whale can mean beat, cane can mean beat, so obviously whale can mean cane - and vice versa :|) Actually, to me, cane can mean to beat, but it implies a stick is involved, whereas whale has more of a Chuck Norris connotation. I've read several articles on Ximenean crossword rules. I've read the rules, I understand the words in the rules but not always how to apply them. It's like telling my sister that addition is commutative. She'll accept that statement as true but has no idea what it means or how it's applied. So, like today whale-cane: not Ximenean. Agreed. Too far apart in meaning making it an unfair clue. Yesterday's clue: politician-tory also not Ximenean. Not sure why. A Tory can be but not necessarily is a politician; a politician can be but not necessarily is a Tory. I started down my arcane clue path using a staff-cane connection. I've seen that used in clues a few times, once even here on CP I think. Is that Ximenean? Based on observation I'd say no. What would be? Anyway, I'm not going to let fear of Ximenes stop me from trying. I do believe I'm failing better now. As Derek says, live and learn. Also, thanks for all the discussion, it will help me out in the future (maybe you too if and when I next set one :rolleyes: ). Eleven guys and a barcode standard. (8) Ximenean? :laugh:

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                              No need to whale yourself. I've seen far worse, and some might say that about a few of mine. :-D

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                                Well, I seemed to have caused quite a stir! :-D It would appear I got a little too cute setting my clue. I will admit to the tenuocity (hey, if I'm going to set an improper clue I might as well use an improper word too) of the whale-cane connection. It seemed OK when I thought it up but upon reading the above I stand corrected. It seems I was assuming some equality property of synonyms (whale can mean beat, cane can mean beat, so obviously whale can mean cane - and vice versa :|) Actually, to me, cane can mean to beat, but it implies a stick is involved, whereas whale has more of a Chuck Norris connotation. I've read several articles on Ximenean crossword rules. I've read the rules, I understand the words in the rules but not always how to apply them. It's like telling my sister that addition is commutative. She'll accept that statement as true but has no idea what it means or how it's applied. So, like today whale-cane: not Ximenean. Agreed. Too far apart in meaning making it an unfair clue. Yesterday's clue: politician-tory also not Ximenean. Not sure why. A Tory can be but not necessarily is a politician; a politician can be but not necessarily is a Tory. I started down my arcane clue path using a staff-cane connection. I've seen that used in clues a few times, once even here on CP I think. Is that Ximenean? Based on observation I'd say no. What would be? Anyway, I'm not going to let fear of Ximenes stop me from trying. I do believe I'm failing better now. As Derek says, live and learn. Also, thanks for all the discussion, it will help me out in the future (maybe you too if and when I next set one :rolleyes: ). Eleven guys and a barcode standard. (8) Ximenean? :laugh:

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                                Eleven guys and a barcode standard. (8) Ximenean Using standard twice - barcode and crossword standard :-D

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