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    Rage
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    Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      I've been running MS Money (the Sunset Edition) on Win10, with no problems. I haven't tried it on Win11, but in the worst case - I could always install it in one of the VMs I use for running older software (e.g. WinXP or some such).

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        Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Oh, man, I think it's one of the Dead Sea Scrolls...

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          Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          dandy72
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          It's still my go-to personal finance app; I have it running in a Win7 VM and that's exactly how I see myself using it a decade still from now.

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            Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            charlieg
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            I got hooked into Quicken and then it went to the darkside. Quicken's main benefit is that they "sort of" keep it working for banks. Every three years they lie through their teeth saying "you must upgrade to maintain the interface" - which is elephanting nonsense. Banks do not change their interfaces at a whim and certainly now on a 3 year schedule. They finally just fessed up to an annual subscription.

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              I had problems with MS Money Sunset Edition on one version of Windows 10. Since that version I've had no problems and now run it on Windows 11. As for search, when I search it searches everywhere. If you're looking for a replacement, there's KyMyMoney, which is open source. The problem with it is it uses XML files for storage and I'm not sure how scalable or robust XML files are in this specific use case.

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                Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

                Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                Lost User
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                I agree, a great product which I have been using for more than 20 years. I am currently on Money 2002 and it still works fine on Windows 10. The only issue is when installing it complains about having the wrong version of Internet Explorer installed. That is fixed by a simple registry entry:

                HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WoW6432Node\Microsoft\Internet Explorer // for 64 bit
                Set version to: 9.11.10240.0

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                  I had problems with MS Money Sunset Edition on one version of Windows 10. Since that version I've had no problems and now run it on Windows 11. As for search, when I search it searches everywhere. If you're looking for a replacement, there's KyMyMoney, which is open source. The problem with it is it uses XML files for storage and I'm not sure how scalable or robust XML files are in this specific use case.

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                  I always thought that KMyMoney was an excellent replacement for MS MyMoney. I used to use it for years and never had an issue with it. Same functionality and I think (it's been a while) its either compatible or has a converter.

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                    Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ?
                    I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions.

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                      I had problems with MS Money Sunset Edition on one version of Windows 10. Since that version I've had no problems and now run it on Windows 11. As for search, when I search it searches everywhere. If you're looking for a replacement, there's KyMyMoney, which is open source. The problem with it is it uses XML files for storage and I'm not sure how scalable or robust XML files are in this specific use case.

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                      obermd wrote:

                      it uses XML files

                      ... as opposed to ? Does not MS Money store them as binary encoded xml as well ?

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                        Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                        I've been using it for 15 years and have never felt any need to use anything else. Though I haven't tried it on Windows 11 yet...

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                          Is anybody around working at Microsoft ? If yes, any way to attempt at finding someone who could help with Microsoft releasing the source code of Money as an open source ? I've been using it for ages, and it is simply great. No other accounting software comes close to it, but it lacks a few features (like ... search combobox everywhere) and it slowly gets incompatible with recent windows versions. So it would be great if we could revival it, that would be such a great project ! But it would be far more easy to get the initial code base...

                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                          When MS Money came out I switched over from Quicken and LOVED Money I was a heartbreak when MS discontinued it. Used the sunset edition for a while, but I felt I HAD to switch back to Quicken in order to use the automatic downloads. Wife & I have several credit cards and both joint and separate bank accounts. Too much manual data entry without the automatic downloads. Tried Money in Excel for a little while (also now discontinued), but that brings/brought down all transactions from all sources into a single Excel table. Parsing the table's data into separate accounts and then reconciling was too much work. I'd love to try some alternative to Quicken. The annual subscription model is a blatant money grab for damned little in the way of improvement. If you don't pay it, they disable transaction downloads. You can't even download a qfx file from each bank to your PC and then import it. The key thing for me for any alternative would be having a file converter that could ACCURATELY read my many years of Quicken data.

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                            When MS Money came out I switched over from Quicken and LOVED Money I was a heartbreak when MS discontinued it. Used the sunset edition for a while, but I felt I HAD to switch back to Quicken in order to use the automatic downloads. Wife & I have several credit cards and both joint and separate bank accounts. Too much manual data entry without the automatic downloads. Tried Money in Excel for a little while (also now discontinued), but that brings/brought down all transactions from all sources into a single Excel table. Parsing the table's data into separate accounts and then reconciling was too much work. I'd love to try some alternative to Quicken. The annual subscription model is a blatant money grab for damned little in the way of improvement. If you don't pay it, they disable transaction downloads. You can't even download a qfx file from each bank to your PC and then import it. The key thing for me for any alternative would be having a file converter that could ACCURATELY read my many years of Quicken data.

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                            Duke Carey wrote:

                            automatic downloads

                            I never fully understood how this was working : could you just get your transactions online from within Money directly ? This is/was not possible with banks in France. I have always had to download data as .ofx files from my online banking accounts, and then import them in Money. I even wrote a VB Macro in Excel (stop throwing me stones, it is quick and efficient !!) to convert the files content before importing, so that I do not have to update too much manually, since the payees in the banks files are not always recognized automatically by Money - the bank adds transaction numbers or even dates in the "Name" field in their export...

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                              Duke Carey wrote:

                              automatic downloads

                              I never fully understood how this was working : could you just get your transactions online from within Money directly ? This is/was not possible with banks in France. I have always had to download data as .ofx files from my online banking accounts, and then import them in Money. I even wrote a VB Macro in Excel (stop throwing me stones, it is quick and efficient !!) to convert the files content before importing, so that I do not have to update too much manually, since the payees in the banks files are not always recognized automatically by Money - the bank adds transaction numbers or even dates in the "Name" field in their export...

                              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                              IIRC, Money used a different download or connection process than Quicken did and the sunset Money edition was limited or crippled in that regard. It's been a LONG time since I tried the sunset edition, and that description may be totally wrong. Is there a way to import a large Quicken file into the sunset edition? I'd be happy to try it again. Now that I'm retired I have more time to fiddle with it

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                                IIRC, Money used a different download or connection process than Quicken did and the sunset Money edition was limited or crippled in that regard. It's been a LONG time since I tried the sunset edition, and that description may be totally wrong. Is there a way to import a large Quicken file into the sunset edition? I'd be happy to try it again. Now that I'm retired I have more time to fiddle with it

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                                Duke Carey wrote:

                                Is there a way to import a large Quicken file into the sunset edition?

                                Some says that renaming .qfx in .ofx should do the trick, but not sure about it. I cannot test it right now, not in front of my home computer.

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                                  When MS Money came out I switched over from Quicken and LOVED Money I was a heartbreak when MS discontinued it. Used the sunset edition for a while, but I felt I HAD to switch back to Quicken in order to use the automatic downloads. Wife & I have several credit cards and both joint and separate bank accounts. Too much manual data entry without the automatic downloads. Tried Money in Excel for a little while (also now discontinued), but that brings/brought down all transactions from all sources into a single Excel table. Parsing the table's data into separate accounts and then reconciling was too much work. I'd love to try some alternative to Quicken. The annual subscription model is a blatant money grab for damned little in the way of improvement. If you don't pay it, they disable transaction downloads. You can't even download a qfx file from each bank to your PC and then import it. The key thing for me for any alternative would be having a file converter that could ACCURATELY read my many years of Quicken data.

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                                  davecasdf
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                                  Take a look at GnuCash, will do the import from Quicken.

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                                    Take a look at GnuCash, will do the import from Quicken.

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                                    Duke Carey
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                                    Looked at GnuCash several years ago and, IIRC, it doesn't do automatic downloads from banks & credit card issuers, does it?

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                                      obermd wrote:

                                      it uses XML files

                                      ... as opposed to ? Does not MS Money store them as binary encoded xml as well ?

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                                      I doubt it. MS Money was initially released while Microsoft was putting everything on their Jet Blue database, which is a stripped down, single user, MS-Access database. It was also the height of using Internet Explorer for all display functions, which is why it wants to "install" IE on newer systems. For those who don't know, the Jet Blue database is used heavily inside Windows for things like Active Directory, Exchange (at least until the first cloud hosted Exchange was released), DNS, and DHCP. It's the same database engine found in MS-Access but doesn't support multiple users.

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                                        I've been using it for 15 years and have never felt any need to use anything else. Though I haven't tried it on Windows 11 yet...

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                                        The Sunset Edition installs and runs just fine on Windows 11.

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                                          When MS Money came out I switched over from Quicken and LOVED Money I was a heartbreak when MS discontinued it. Used the sunset edition for a while, but I felt I HAD to switch back to Quicken in order to use the automatic downloads. Wife & I have several credit cards and both joint and separate bank accounts. Too much manual data entry without the automatic downloads. Tried Money in Excel for a little while (also now discontinued), but that brings/brought down all transactions from all sources into a single Excel table. Parsing the table's data into separate accounts and then reconciling was too much work. I'd love to try some alternative to Quicken. The annual subscription model is a blatant money grab for damned little in the way of improvement. If you don't pay it, they disable transaction downloads. You can't even download a qfx file from each bank to your PC and then import it. The key thing for me for any alternative would be having a file converter that could ACCURATELY read my many years of Quicken data.

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                                          I switched to Money when Quicken for NT couldn't handle NT 4.

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