I never saw the United Nations coming for me....

charlieg

This is sort of tongue in cheek, but a lot of it elephanting depresses the elephanting elephanting out of me... Context #1: I've been the tech grunt having to plow through HR. Elephant HR. Context #2: I've been a manager having HR help me - not so much elephant HR. They deal with absurd levels of stupid your eyes will water. Context #3: Oh ****, I'm a small business guy that needs to sign an agreement with a multinational corporation. Yea me. So, I go off to click on what they want me to sign. :) Patience. This level of bullshit is at the extreme level of my patience. It's at a such a level of HR stupidity that there may be a justification for napalm. You be the judge. 1: "... responsible social and ethical behavior and has a responsibility to the employees serving the company worldwide. Our core values Empowerment, Innovation and Integrity guide us in our actions and daily business decisions." Okay, I fair enough. When I go to the men's room, I wash my hands coming out. I have no elephanting idea how I'm supposed to power anyone, but I love plumbers. But wait, it gets better. The policies are driving this corporation's Business Partner Code of Conduct (caps are theirs) and are further based on... wait for it.... 2: UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights and connected UN Convenvtions. 3: ILO Tripartite Declaration of Principles concerning Multinational Enterprises and Social Policy 4: OECD Guidelines on the Protection of Privacy and Transborder Flows of Personal Data • OECD Guidelines for Multinational Enterprises • UN Global Compact • ISO 14001 Elephant this.

Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

Lost User

charlieg wrote:

2: UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights and connected UN Convenvtions. 3: ILO Tripartite Declaration of Principles concerning Multinational Enterprises and Social Policy 4: OECD Guidelines on the Protection of Privacy and Transborder Flows of Personal Data • OECD Guidelines for Multinational Enterprises • UN Global Compact • ISO 14001

I'm researching the word "bedrijfscultuur"; the culture of a company. How about simply no? I never ask my butcher for his politics. His meat is relevant, and the only influence of politics is how much my money degrades. I've been hearing about "the allies" for years; it been enough. It just needs a horde.

Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

PIEBALDconsult

Did you at least expect the Spanish Inquisition?

jmaida

LOL, Monty Python memories.

"A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

jmaida

Sounds like red tape jive talk. Chill.

"A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

RickZeeland

We are in the concluding phase of the ISO process (I hope), our manager seemed to be fully occupied by that and all the red tape for over a year. Development almost grinded to a halt. :sigh:

Craig Robbins

One of my favorite Python skits (along with the Penguin on the TV, the Dead Parrot, and the Lumberjack).

Edward Aymami

I liked the "comfy pillows" part. ;)

charlieg

I actually slept on this and gave it some more thought. The company in question is a multinational conglomerate. I suspect they have *many* suppliers world-wide for what they do. So in the end, I guess I see their point. I'm thinking about all of the Nike like companies as well as apple that look the other way regarding other companies' labor practices. I'll just sign it and do the work and move on. But for all you corporations out there - the big guys - apply some commonsense.

Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

charlieg

Where I have another contract, we're ISO certified in something or other. It's an annual thing, but the examiners know very little about software. They were amazed we use source control and a bug tracker system. :doh: Having been at work for 40+ years, I am annually amazed at the certification process. The two critical questions seem to be 1) if you don't know an answer, do you know where to find it documented? And 2) What is your mission statement? The process could be to weekly set the factory on fire, and as long as the procedure is documented, we're certified.

Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.