That elusive fifth letter - updated
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In a fit of boredom, I began wondering how many "5th letter" possibilities there could be (i.e. I have four greens and one unknown.) So I spent a few minutes
bashing around the standard linux word list with the usual suspects -grep,awk,tr,sortanduniq. I found 5 cases where there are 9 possibilities:*akes *inks *owed *ucks *umps(I'm sure NYT would disallow some choices in at least one of them ;P ) Interesting that they are all first position wildcards. From 8s down, wildcards appear in other positions. 30 cases of 8 possibilities... (not all verified, and since the original list includes many proper names, there may be a few spurious entries.) ================ update ============== :-O :-O :-O tricked by default sort Two 12's, two 11's, twelve 10's... 12:*ears *ills11:*ails *ates10:*acks *ales *ared *ares *ells *ends *ests *icks *ight *ines *ocks *ullsAll >=9's are first position...Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
Um. For "*UCKS" I know 12:
BUCKS
DUCKS Plural of DUCK
****S Obvious
GUCKS Oozy, sloppy things
HUCKS To remove shells from a nut, for example
LUCKS As in "she lucks into everything"
MUCKS As in "she mucks out the kids room"
PUCKS As in "hockey pucks"
RUCKS As in Rugby: a loose scrum.
TUCKS As in "she tucks in the bedsheet"
YUCKS Multiple nasty things.
SUCKS As in "she sucks a ice lolly"Most of the other seem to have more than nine as well. I can also get nine or more quite easily with a fixed first letter: "DO*ED" for example: DOLED, DOMED, DOPED, DOSED, DOTED, DOVED, DOWED, DOXED, DOZED. Some of them are regional / specialist though.
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Um. For "*UCKS" I know 12:
BUCKS
DUCKS Plural of DUCK
****S Obvious
GUCKS Oozy, sloppy things
HUCKS To remove shells from a nut, for example
LUCKS As in "she lucks into everything"
MUCKS As in "she mucks out the kids room"
PUCKS As in "hockey pucks"
RUCKS As in Rugby: a loose scrum.
TUCKS As in "she tucks in the bedsheet"
YUCKS Multiple nasty things.
SUCKS As in "she sucks a ice lolly"Most of the other seem to have more than nine as well. I can also get nine or more quite easily with a fixed first letter: "DO*ED" for example: DOLED, DOMED, DOPED, DOSED, DOTED, DOVED, DOWED, DOXED, DOZED. Some of them are regional / specialist though.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I was working from the linux standard distro word list, which is obviously deficient... It's missing
gucksandhucks(and so is my cranial word list) (I thought the shelling one washusks.)Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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I was working from the linux standard distro word list, which is obviously deficient... It's missing
gucksandhucks(and so is my cranial word list) (I thought the shelling one washusks.)Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
Shells are husks, huck is the act of removing them which may be a "local thing" - it's "throwing", or "jumping a skateboard", or "rough towelling" depending on which dictionary you look at as well! (It's definitely in the Scrabble Dictionary, not that that proves anything other than "it's short and got 'CK' in it so that's a lot of points for me")
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In a fit of boredom, I began wondering how many "5th letter" possibilities there could be (i.e. I have four greens and one unknown.) So I spent a few minutes
bashing around the standard linux word list with the usual suspects -grep,awk,tr,sortanduniq. I found 5 cases where there are 9 possibilities:*akes *inks *owed *ucks *umps(I'm sure NYT would disallow some choices in at least one of them ;P ) Interesting that they are all first position wildcards. From 8s down, wildcards appear in other positions. 30 cases of 8 possibilities... (not all verified, and since the original list includes many proper names, there may be a few spurious entries.) ================ update ============== :-O :-O :-O tricked by default sort Two 12's, two 11's, twelve 10's... 12:*ears *ills11:*ails *ates10:*acks *ales *ared *ares *ells *ends *ests *icks *ight *ines *ocks *ullsAll >=9's are first position...Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
Pretty cool. I'm a bit of a master at picking the wrong choices in Wordle. I recall the NYTimes said less than 50% of players solved the PARER solution recently. On average the puzzle solving success is closer to 99%.
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Pretty cool. I'm a bit of a master at picking the wrong choices in Wordle. I recall the NYTimes said less than 50% of players solved the PARER solution recently. On average the puzzle solving success is closer to 99%.
I got PARER only because one of my starters has an R in the middle. My streak would be 99 or 100 except I did one on the wrong computer and it didn't go in my stats. I know, I know, get a free NYT account...
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Shells are husks, huck is the act of removing them which may be a "local thing" - it's "throwing", or "jumping a skateboard", or "rough towelling" depending on which dictionary you look at as well! (It's definitely in the Scrabble Dictionary, not that that proves anything other than "it's short and got 'CK' in it so that's a lot of points for me")
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Are F and H both worth 4 ? :-\
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Um. For "*UCKS" I know 12:
BUCKS
DUCKS Plural of DUCK
****S Obvious
GUCKS Oozy, sloppy things
HUCKS To remove shells from a nut, for example
LUCKS As in "she lucks into everything"
MUCKS As in "she mucks out the kids room"
PUCKS As in "hockey pucks"
RUCKS As in Rugby: a loose scrum.
TUCKS As in "she tucks in the bedsheet"
YUCKS Multiple nasty things.
SUCKS As in "she sucks a ice lolly"Most of the other seem to have more than nine as well. I can also get nine or more quite easily with a fixed first letter: "DO*ED" for example: DOLED, DOMED, DOPED, DOSED, DOTED, DOVED, DOWED, DOXED, DOZED. Some of them are regional / specialist though.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
OriginalGriff wrote:
I can also get nine or more quite easily with a fixed first letter: "DO*ED" for example: DOLED, DOMED, DOPED, DOSED, DOTED, DOVED, DOWED, DOXED, DOXED.
Or just eight if you ignore duplicates. (DOXED appears twice at the end of your list) :)
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OriginalGriff wrote:
I can also get nine or more quite easily with a fixed first letter: "DO*ED" for example: DOLED, DOMED, DOPED, DOSED, DOTED, DOVED, DOWED, DOXED, DOXED.
Or just eight if you ignore duplicates. (DOXED appears twice at the end of your list) :)
Fixed: I missed Z and got X instead ... :-O
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In a fit of boredom, I began wondering how many "5th letter" possibilities there could be (i.e. I have four greens and one unknown.) So I spent a few minutes
bashing around the standard linux word list with the usual suspects -grep,awk,tr,sortanduniq. I found 5 cases where there are 9 possibilities:*akes *inks *owed *ucks *umps(I'm sure NYT would disallow some choices in at least one of them ;P ) Interesting that they are all first position wildcards. From 8s down, wildcards appear in other positions. 30 cases of 8 possibilities... (not all verified, and since the original list includes many proper names, there may be a few spurious entries.) ================ update ============== :-O :-O :-O tricked by default sort Two 12's, two 11's, twelve 10's... 12:*ears *ills11:*ails *ates10:*acks *ales *ared *ares *ells *ends *ests *icks *ight *ines *ocks *ullsAll >=9's are first position...Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
I have not yet seen a 5 letter Wordle that is simply a 4 letter word with an "s" on the end of it to make it a plural. But i have only been playing for a few weeks. Are simple plurals "allowed"?
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I have not yet seen a 5 letter Wordle that is simply a 4 letter word with an "s" on the end of it to make it a plural. But i have only been playing for a few weeks. Are simple plurals "allowed"?
I hope not, but they would run out of a words quicker.
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I have not yet seen a 5 letter Wordle that is simply a 4 letter word with an "s" on the end of it to make it a plural. But i have only been playing for a few weeks. Are simple plurals "allowed"?
I have no idea what is and isn't on the Wordle word list. (Not quite true; I've discovered a few that weren't there when I expected them to be.) As I said in my original message, I started with the standard Linux word list, which I think is targeted at naive spellcheckers. And although I've played 150+ Wordles, my average retention time of the answer is measured in minutes.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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In a fit of boredom, I began wondering how many "5th letter" possibilities there could be (i.e. I have four greens and one unknown.) So I spent a few minutes
bashing around the standard linux word list with the usual suspects -grep,awk,tr,sortanduniq. I found 5 cases where there are 9 possibilities:*akes *inks *owed *ucks *umps(I'm sure NYT would disallow some choices in at least one of them ;P ) Interesting that they are all first position wildcards. From 8s down, wildcards appear in other positions. 30 cases of 8 possibilities... (not all verified, and since the original list includes many proper names, there may be a few spurious entries.) ================ update ============== :-O :-O :-O tricked by default sort Two 12's, two 11's, twelve 10's... 12:*ears *ills11:*ails *ates10:*acks *ales *ared *ares *ells *ends *ests *icks *ight *ines *ocks *ullsAll >=9's are first position...Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
Debugging a bit, words aren't verified via a webservice; there's an embedded wordlist. If you look at the page source in the Chrome debugger, it's under www.nytimes.com / games-assets/v2 in a .js file starting "wordle." I guess the long GUID in the rest of the filename may vary by user etc, but it's easy enough to identify. The wordlist starts at around offset 33900, and appears to be in a random order:
ft=["cigar","rebut","sissy","humph","awake"...Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT
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Debugging a bit, words aren't verified via a webservice; there's an embedded wordlist. If you look at the page source in the Chrome debugger, it's under www.nytimes.com / games-assets/v2 in a .js file starting "wordle." I guess the long GUID in the rest of the filename may vary by user etc, but it's easy enough to identify. The wordlist starts at around offset 33900, and appears to be in a random order:
ft=["cigar","rebut","sissy","humph","awake"...Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT
People who have dug a bit deeper tell me that there are two embedded word lists - one is the "dictionary" of what it recognises as words, the other is the ordered list of daily solutions. (probably the one you found) Re another subthread above, they also say there are no plurals in the list, so the analysis in my OP is, as I suspected, biased.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
